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    TonyTall
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    Football anti-teaser support group

    I need help this season. Maybe you do as well. I just see those 10 points in a 3-team football teaser as so tempting. I know its a losing proposition in the long haul but i end up making one every night during the season. If i just stick to straight bets and player props ill have a good season need to stay away from these frigin multi-team teasers

    teaser bettor

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    fukk it tony, if ya have fun playin em go for it. i just bet as a hobby though so if this was your living, different story

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    I need help this season. Maybe you do as well. I just see those 10 points in a 3-team football teaser as so tempting. I know its a losing proposition in the long haul but i end up making one every night during the season. If i just stick to straight bets and player props ill have a good season need to stay away from these frigin multi-team teasers

    teaser bettor
    - Teasers and parlays are losers props. - I never bet parlays of any kind !! Its hard enough to win one game straight up !!

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    Teasers are dumb they should be for entertainment purposes only

    I would play a lot of 10-15 team teasers at 6-10 points for $1-$3 each for shits and giggles for college football

    Every now and then I would hit a 12 or 13 teamer or so and make a decent return but for the most part they all lost

    I mainly did it for entertainment purposes, so I could have lots of action going on for games I normally wouldnt give a shit about otherwise on a Saturday. That 2:30 kickoff between Eastern Michigan and Kent State might seem boring but when it would close out a winning 10 teamer it becomes entertaining

    That's the only reason to play any teaser though

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    I love teasers for college football, mainly 3 team 6 pt ones. Have done very good with them the last three years.

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    3 team college football teasers


    are you out of your mind




    yes for entertainment i can see doing some teasers but if you think you are hitting 50% in the long run you are stupid. i will not take chunks out of my bankroll this fall doing this no way

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    I have been in the positive the last three years doing them. Will keep track of them this year if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimistPrime View Post
    I have been in the positive the last three years doing them. Will keep track of them this year if you want.
    yes make a thread.this way you will know for sure how stupid it is to play college 6-pt teasers. what does that pay +150. you have to win 3 games in a row. while getting 6 points on a game that the total will be about 60

    no offense but you have been lucky so far

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    I would get fukked with these for 9 weeks but for two I would hit hard for 5-1 or 11-1 wins.

    If you're not sure enough on a side that you need ten points extra, just skip it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    yes make a thread.this way you will know for sure how stupid it is to play college 6-pt teasers. what does that pay +150. you have to win 3 games in a row. while getting 6 points on a game that the total will be about 60

    no offense but you have been lucky so far
    Any chance you start a thread with your straight plays Tony?

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    Of course only rule in betting teasers

    never go through zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    Any chance you start a thread with your straight plays Tony?

    3 ppl scoffed at me and i told them to go back and calculate my record in straight props and they all then never talked to me again when they saw i hit over 63% posted plays lol

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    You a get lucky if
    Games are close

    3-4 Teamers

    Odds not -110 anymore

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    its very simple gentlemen, WONG teasers are +EV, everthing else is not.

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    Lupe is right. You can tease nfl games thru key numbers and make money.

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    Keep your head up Tony. Pick and choose and you should do ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Keep your head up Tony. Pick and choose and you should do ok.

    ill play some over at 5dimes they have some good odds. maybe an open teaser. but when i first started out i would chase with 4 team 13-pt teasers over at betphoenix. needless to say i got 15 calls a week from them with specials

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegades View Post
    Lupe is right. You can tease nfl games thru key numbers and make money.
    not in vegas. Everywhere I've seen is -120

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    Player props are just as big a sucker wager as ALL parlays and teasers. Just do the math. It is really simple. The more teams you take, the bigger the odds desparity gets. Start with a simple two team parlay. Four things can happen. A can win and B can lose. A can lose and B can win. Both A and B can lose. Both A and B can win. That is 3-1 against you, which is 15/5. You get 13/5 in Vegas or off shore. You are bassically laying 13.3% vig compared to the normal 10% vig. The more teams you wager, the worse it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Player props are just as big a sucker wager as ALL parlays and teasers. Just do the math. It is really simple. The more teams you take, the bigger the odds desparity gets. Start with a simple two team parlay. Four things can happen. A can win and B can lose. A can lose and B can win. Both A and B can lose. Both A and B can win. That is 3-1 against you, which is 15/5. You get 13/5 in Vegas or off shore. You are bassically laying 13.3% vig compared to the normal 10% vig. The more teams you wager, the worse it gets.
    No shit captain obvious. Parlays pay more then straight bets? Get the Fuk outta here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Player props are just as big a sucker wager as ALL parlays and teasers. Just do the math. It is really simple. The more teams you take, the bigger the odds desparity gets. Start with a simple two team parlay. Four things can happen. A can win and B can lose. A can lose and B can win. Both A and B can lose. Both A and B can win. That is 3-1 against you, which is 15/5. You get 13/5 in Vegas or off shore. You are bassically laying 13.3% vig compared to the normal 10% vig. The more teams you wager, the worse it gets.
    Books get killed with player props, that's why the low limit. Sharps destroy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT21Megatron View Post
    No shit captain obvious. Parlays pay more then straight bets? Get the Fuk outta here?
    parlays do pay more.

    its all relative.

    The rich get richer and the lucky seem to get luckier.

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    i can give you a mean 3team 10pt teaser for week 1. NFL & college fb.

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    Never parlay and teaser more than a 2 teamer.
    Never tease through the zero.

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    Teasers may be doable in NFL, but it doesn't make any sense in college. Way more often faves cover by a lot or dogs cover by a lot. Beating the lines in NCAAF are important, but not nearly as important in NFL for this very reason.

    Pleaser bets actually make more sense here if you wanna have some real fun.

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    Parlays and Teasers are for two types of people. Those who just want to waste a few bucks and have some fun, and those who are actually uneducated enough to depend on them to make money. The vast majority of players in here fall into one of two catagories. Those who wager rather small amounts (under $100.00/game) and those who do not wager at all (which probably covers 50% of the posters in here). There are a few posters who wager rather large amounts of money, but they are few and far between. Ask them if they ever lay big money on a parlay, teaser, or prop play. As far as books getting "killed by player props", I suggest that you go to Vegas and see if that is true, because it is not. Now you may think so, and you may think that this is the reason why Mickey Mouse Offshore books that most of you use are afraid of sharps, but the fact is that these books simply cannot afford to take a big hit, so they drop the limits on all wagers. Frogsrangers has it right. Tony, let's see your posted plays for this season, and make sure to include the shop that you are playing at, so we can verify that your line is accurate.
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    3 team 6 pts offshore are +180
    2 team 6 pts offshore are -110

    3 team 6 pts need a 70.95 win rate to break even
    2 team 6 pts need a 72.4 win rate to break even
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    Since 1980 NFL dogs of +1.5 to +2.5 teased up covered 75%. 80% over the last 6 yrs

    NFL favs of -7.5 to -8.5 teased down covered 73.2%. 71.2% over the last 6 yrs.

    There is an edge to Wong teasers in the NFL, thats why offshore books shade the line around key numbers for teaser spreads. Many many times you will see say a line of 2.5 as the "true" line and when go to select that dog in a teaser....voila the line is +1 instead of 2.5. Books want you to get +7 rather than +8.5. At 8.5 you are going thru two key numbers- 3 and 7. At +7 you no longer get two key numbers because now plus 7 is a push

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    If you are teasing college, which I dont recommend, I would only play games with a total of 48 or less. Low total mean in theory the game should be lower scoring, and lower scoring games have a much higher % of staying close to the number

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegades View Post
    3 team 6 pts offshore are +180
    2 team 6 pts offshore are -110

    3 team 6 pts need a 70.95 win rate to break even
    2 team 6 pts need a 72.4 win rate to break even
    ----------------
    Since 1980 NFL dogs of +1.5 to +2.5 teased up covered 75%. 80% over the last 6 yrs

    NFL favs of -7.5 to -8.5 teased down covered 73.2%. 71.2% over the last 6 yrs.

    There is an edge to Wong teasers in the NFL, thats why offshore books shade the line around key numbers for teaser spreads. Many many times you will see say a line of 2.5 as the "true" line and when go to select that dog in a teaser....voila the line is +1 instead of 2.5. Books want you to get +7 rather than +8.5. At 8.5 you are going thru two key numbers- 3 and 7. At +7 you no longer get two key numbers because now plus 7 is a push

    Well done


    Tony, keep a thread for all of your picks this year....all of them, with unit sizing and everything. Honestly, I am not being a dick this time around. Do that consistently.....be a winner and add to SBR. Would love to have another guy to bounce things off of, somebody that actually adds to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    As far as books getting "killed by player props", I suggest that you go to Vegas and see if that is true, because it is not. Now you may think so, and you may think that this is the reason why Mickey Mouse Offshore books that most of you use are afraid of sharps, but the fact is that these books simply cannot afford to take a big hit, so they drop the limits on all wagers. Frogsrangers has it right. Tony, let's see your posted plays for this season, and make sure to include the shop that you are playing at, so we can verify that your line is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Parlays and Teasers are for two types of people. Those who just want to waste a few bucks and have some fun, and those who are actually uneducated enough to depend on them to make money. The vast majority of players in here fall into one of two catagories. Those who wager rather small amounts (under $100.00/game) and those who do not wager at all (which probably covers 50% of the posters in here). There are a few posters who wager rather large amounts of money, but they are few and far between. Ask them if they ever lay big money on a parlay, teaser, or prop play. As far as books getting "killed by player props", I suggest that you go to Vegas and see if that is true, because it is not. Now you may think so, and you may think that this is the reason why Mickey Mouse Offshore books that most of you use are afraid of sharps, but the fact is that these books simply cannot afford to take a big hit, so they drop the limits on all wagers. Frogsrangers has it right. Tony, let's see your posted plays for this season, and make sure to include the shop that you are playing at, so we can verify that your line is accurate.
    I love these type threads. People railing on how others gamble because they can't win doing it that way.

    I've seen many guys win hitting teasers. Not saying they are for everyone. But just because one betting option doesn't work for you, doesn't mean someone else isn't having great success with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    I love these type threads. People railing on how others gamble because they can't win doing it that way.

    I've seen many guys win hitting teasers. Not saying they are for everyone. But just because one betting option doesn't work for you, doesn't mean someone else isn't having great success with it.
    Bang on I/O.

    People here originally trashed me for my high volume ways....and then they slowly accepted it as the way I do business....that included some of the best poster's on SBR. They came around eventually.

    I still get guys on my thread, in fact a new one today, that claim that I cannot do it.....even though I have 2000 documented bets on SBR....but guys will be guys and if they can't do it they believe that it must be impossible, instead of trying to look for advice or maybe a new method.

    Oh well....it is what it is.

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    might post my plays might not. dont really care if anyone believes that i win or not. i check the pitcher strikeout totals every night. might make 3-4 plays a week if i see something nice. same with football, sometimes things are a crapshoot sometimes a book puts out a prop at +100 that has a 60% chance of hitting

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    take unders in teasers if anything

    pre season

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimistPrime View Post
    I have been in the positive the last three years doing them. Will keep track of them this year if you want.
    Please do!! Biggest sucker bet there is! One bet and you need 3 teams to cover! That means 3 games have to go according to plan and your risk/ reward is not in your favor. My man loves it as they all lose big and get buried chasing!! They lose at one and start chasing the 4 'o'clock trying to pick 3 teams correctly. Straight, straight , straight but I'm afraid to bet $100 on 3 teams straight and rather bet a $100 on a 3 team teaser.

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