1. 10-23-13 02:15 PM #1
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    Vanderbilt v Texas A&M

    The line is currently at -17. Can't help but think this is too high, the games seem to be coming thick and fast for Aggies. That defence can't stop anyone. If JF injures the arm further early doors then I think Vandy wins.

    I'm taking the points and a small bet on the ML.

    Any thoughts on this one?
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  2. 10-23-13 02:34 PM #2
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    I've got the over in a parlay
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  3. 10-23-13 03:09 PM #3
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    The Aggie defense gives up 511 yards per game (116th) just one spot ahead of powerhouse Georgia State.

    Anyone know the true status of Johnnie Boy?
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  4. 10-23-13 03:34 PM #4
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    Johnny is probable, but I think he plays. He's too much of a competitor not too, unless it's really serious. Sumlin doesn't release injury information.

    I'm not touching this game, and I haven't looked at Vandy's offense too much or their rb's, but I would take Vandy to cover from what our defense has put on the field. We don't have enough players to get a good rotation going, and we're getting worn down.
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  5. 10-23-13 04:23 PM #5
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    BookMaker has pulled the game OTB, but 5Dimes still has it up at -17.5.
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  6. 10-23-13 04:27 PM #6
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    VANDY is TERRIBLE away from home.... do some research
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  7. 10-23-13 04:35 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMUplayer View Post
    VANDY is TERRIBLE away from home.... do some research
    Just need 11 warm bodies to score on A&Ms defense. Better do your research before laying a dime with a defense that bad. 17/18 pts hard to cover when your defense can't stop anyone
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  8. 10-23-13 04:36 PM #8
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    The line is 17-18 in Vegas and everyone is carrying it. Johnny M's career in the College ranks is over. A&M is going nowheres except to the Cotton Bowl, and that is not even assured. There is no way that this glamor boy will allow anything to threaten his career. The slightest twinge and he is out of there. Vandy obviously wants this game more than A&M. They have a shot at a bowl game, and HC Franklin may have a shot at the USC HC job. I think A&M has enough to win, but Vandy and the points is a good play.
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  9. 10-23-13 04:38 PM #9
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    vandy is scary bad on the road but a&m defense is a joke, with a beat up Johnny im leaning towards vandy
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  10. 10-23-13 04:39 PM #10
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    They lost against Georgia & Northwestern away last season while winning 4. They have lost against South Carolina this season.

    I'm not finding any evidence that they are poor away from home. Can you provide this?
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    Vandy has only played 2 road games this year. they are 1-1 on the road. They average 1.5 rushing touchdown per game on the road as opposed to 3.6 rushing touchdown per game at home. 100 less yards per game passing on the road. Pass defense gives up 30% more yards per game on the road... Theres a real small sample size this year though. Last year Pass Defense gave up 100% more YPG on the road and team was 3-3.

    I dont think theyre abysmal on the road, their defense obviously doesnt play as well, I still dont think AM covers but Id rather bet the over.
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  12. 10-23-13 04:54 PM #12
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    Vandy and over. Too many people thinking vandy is in let down spot and texas a and m is in bounce back spot but this will be another score fest. can't see a and m winning by more than two touchdowns with their non existent defense.
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    You may be on target with the over Jaboo. The Aggies are top 10 in scoring somewhere around 44 points a game.

    Vandy is averaging around 32 ppg and see no reason they want score on A&M's defense.

    Got to agree with EL Z that because of depth, the defense is worn down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The line is 17-18 in Vegas and everyone is carrying it. Johnny M's career in the College ranks is over. A&M is going nowheres except to the Cotton Bowl, and that is not even assured. There is no way that this glamor boy will allow anything to threaten his career. The slightest twinge and he is out of there. Vandy obviously wants this game more than A&M. They have a shot at a bowl game, and HC Franklin may have a shot at the USC HC job. I think A&M has enough to win, but Vandy and the points is a good play.
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  15. 10-23-13 05:22 PM #15
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    Avg total of an A&M game is 79. Only 1 game this season has gone under the total of this game (im seeing 68.5). Havent taken this yet (except in parlays) but Im considering a straight bet
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  16. 10-23-13 08:13 PM #16
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    747 how do you bet the over with no Johnny?
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  17. 10-23-13 08:54 PM #17
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    no play for me. Texas A&M has screwed me twice already this year. Done with them. I also don't like playing vanderbilt. they may be playing good ball but they are still vandy.
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  18. 10-23-13 10:22 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    There is no way that this glamor boy will allow anything to threaten his career. The slightest twinge and he is out of there.
    You obviously don't watch this kid play. At least not without drinking some of dat haterade.
    The kid did something to his shoulder last game (from reliable source: bad sprain), went back and tried his damnedest to win.
    Ole Miss, he got a pain in his knee, went down, went to the sidelines and then came back in and gave it 100%
    Johnny Fvckin Football is on some Kobe ish when it's on the line

    A&M was the team everyone wanted revenge on this season, so the "they want it more" rationale is irrelevant. Effort is not an issue for A&M, but talent, depth, and coaching is for our defense.

    Auburn ran the ball 60 times against us (with a lot of power run plays which kills us), and they averaged about 45 rush attempts in conference before that. Auburn runs a lot of power running, has a QB that can run, and moves very fast as an offense. They've only thrown it 170 times on the year (compared to about 350 run plays) because their QB isn't a great passer. This was a match up that spelled disaster for A&M

    Vandy averages about 35 a game, but they don't move as fast as Auburn does. I really haven't watched them enough to really go in depth on the type of offense and stuff, so I just don't know, but they'll probably cover. Their offense seems fairly balanced
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  19. 10-23-13 11:11 PM #19
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    i think even with a fully healthy Johnny football this game still needs to be closer then 17pts.... he hurt his shoulder this week, remember at ole miss he hurt his knee... dont think both injuries wont flare up this weekend....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The line is 17-18 in Vegas and everyone is carrying it. Johnny M's career in the College ranks is over. A&M is going nowheres except to the Cotton Bowl, and that is not even assured. There is no way that this glamor boy will allow anything to threaten his career. The slightest twinge and he is out of there. Vandy obviously wants this game more than A&M. They have a shot at a bowl game, and HC Franklin may have a shot at the USC HC job. I think A&M has enough to win, but Vandy and the points is a good play.
    Another post that proves you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I see them from you on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyTn View Post
    747 how do you bet the over with no Johnny?
    he is fine and he will play. don't fall for media drama/circus around johnny.
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  22. 10-23-13 11:47 PM #22
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    I agree he is slated to play, but losing the sling on Wednesday? Even Vandy can get a good hit on that shoulder.
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  23. 10-24-13 04:19 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The line is 17-18 in Vegas and everyone is carrying it. Johnny M's career in the College ranks is over. A&M is going nowheres except to the Cotton Bowl, and that is not even assured. There is no way that this glamor boy will allow anything to threaten his career. The slightest twinge and he is out of there. Vandy obviously wants this game more than A&M. They have a shot at a bowl game, and HC Franklin may have a shot at the USC HC job. I think A&M has enough to win, but Vandy and the points is a good play.
    Vandy's starting QB is out, Samuels is not playing.
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