1. 10-06-09 02:56 PM #1
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    Florida @ -7 Discuss...

    I just watched on espn that Tebow practiced full pads (today 10-6) they are keepn it kinda top secret though in FU, this looks enticing, LSU is not as dominating as FU (their Off and Def isnt particularly special) yet they find a way to win.

    If this is really gonna be that close which it could, why did the line start so high??

    Florida -7 seems like a steal, does it not??

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  2. 10-06-09 02:58 PM #2
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    Fl. -9.5 was a steal so yes....at -7 it's a STEAL
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    BetJ took it off the board.
    is there some news I havent head about yet?
    2 point swing in 1 day
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    Probably just a lot of bets on LSU since Tebow isnt for sure playing....and people are looking at LSU's #4 ranking instead of looking at the fact that they are an average team
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmike032 View Post
    BetJ took it off the board. is there some news I havent head about yet? 2 point swing in 1 day
    Tebow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmike032 View Post
    BetJ took it off the board.
    is there some news I havent head about yet?
    2 point swing in 1 day

    Your not missing anything buddy, LSU is a strong team at home and bc of tebow being a question mark people are jumpn on LSU and the points.

    I read at yahoo sports that LSU is calling and txting FU talking mad trash, I hope FU takes this personally and beats the livin shit out of LSU

    Betus has this line at 7 right now... Im bout to buy a pt and lock it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeshred View Post
    Your not missing anything buddy, LSU is a strong team at home and bc of tebow being a question mark people are jumpn on LSU and the points. I read at yahoo sports that LSU is calling and txting FU talking mad trash, I hope FU takes this personally and beats the livin shit out of LSU Betus has this line at 7 right now... Im bout to buy a pt and lock it!
    Almost 60% of the public is still on FU...
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  8. 10-06-09 03:13 PM #8
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    According to the palm beach news Tebow will not start against LSU.

    Just heard it on thescore 1300 AM. Also they say they doubt if Tebow even play. Again this is coming from a news source in Florida.
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    Palm Beach Post in Florida
    is the source.
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    I'm well aware of strengths and weaknesses of SEC teams and the venues.
    Tebow will play, Urban will play this game all week until kickoff about Tebow being questionable. Its just the way he is.
    make no mistake about it though. Tebow will play.

    I almost liked LSU at 9.5 but if this gets under 7 than I'm unloading on it.


    edit:
    should know by tonight according to USA Today. According to this he want start either way. I still dont believe it
    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ion-on-tebow/1
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    My source is straight from the team to espn, they didnt say if he would play or wouldnt play, but he practiced today in full pads.

    Why would florida blow their shot at a title, I bet he plays?

    But ill hold off on the bet for awhile till I know.
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    Looks like Tebow will not start and probably won't play based upon all the intel being reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoagBettor View Post
    Looks like Tebow will not start and probably won't play based upon all the intel being reported.
    Doesnt scare me from my -9.5....but does make me happy cause now I can load up on em when it gets below 7
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    If the books thought LSU was the play without Tebow, the line would be under 7. At 7+ they're still looking for LSU money.
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    And they'll get tons of it
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    As of Tuesday afternoon, the line at sportsbook.com is -7.5.
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    There are only 2 questions that need to be answered to determine the winner:

    1. How many points can LSU score against Florida? Answer: 10-14

    2. How many points can Florida score against LSU with Brantley? Answer: 31+

    If Vegas thought LSU could score more than 14, the line wouldn't be higher than 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeshred View Post
    My source is straight from the team to espn, they didnt say if he would play or wouldnt play, but he practiced today in full pads.

    Why would florida blow their shot at a title, I bet he plays?

    But ill hold off on the bet for awhile till I know.
    If history has told us anything it's that this would not eliminate Florida fom a Title shot. Alabama will in all likelyhood eliminate us from that but as far as this game goes Florida could lose this game and still get a shot. A one loss SEC team has gotten in before.

    I've said it everywhere and I will look like a complete idiot if proven wrong on Saturday night but Florida can beat LSU by the available line with or without Tebow. With Tebow I think it might be a closer game even. Without Tebow this team would get an opportunity to make a statement. Imagine for one second and look at it like this. there is no question that the players on this team fully respect and even adore Tebow. That said they are still human and if you are on a team like this with as much talent as they have and EVERYONE talks about one player first. you have that player go down and have a chance to say HEY we are still a top rated team even without star player. That's a motivational reason. From a schematic reason you have an unknown eliment with Brantley that isn't all bad. More mobility better understanding and ability in the passing game.

    I liked Florida at 9.5 with the assumption that Tebow would play I LOVE Florida -7 with the possibility of Brantley playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeshred View Post
    My source is straight from the team to espn, they didnt say if he would play or wouldnt play, but he practiced today in full pads.

    Why would florida blow their shot at a title, I bet he plays?

    But ill hold off on the bet for awhile till I know.
    This is beyond Florida's power.
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    No Tebow!! Half if Florida offense is gone with there zone read option. Florida offense is really average without Tebow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    This is beyond Florida's power.
    there's a smart post Z.

    Florida and Urban meyer arent making this decision...may not even have a role in it. Tebow's counsel is making the decision playing risk/reward with his NFL paycheck
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  22. 10-06-09 03:55 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    No Tebow!! Half if Florida offense is gone with there zone read option. Florida offense is really average without Tebow.

    That sounds a little ridiculous
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    Tim Tebow doesn't care about money. Otherwise he wouldn't have come back.

    He's a true Christian who doesn't believe in the accumulation of wealth.
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    While obvious influences will whisper their thoughts this will be a medical decission. A doctor has to clear a concussed player to participate. Until a player has medical clearance the doctor is held accountable from a legal as well as ethical standpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wal66 View Post
    If history has told us anything it's that this would not eliminate Florida fom a Title shot. Alabama will in all likelyhood eliminate us from that but as far as this game goes Florida could lose this game and still get a shot. A one loss SEC team has gotten in before.

    I've said it everywhere and I will look like a complete idiot if proven wrong on Saturday night but Florida can beat LSU by the available line with or without Tebow. With Tebow I think it might be a closer game even. Without Tebow this team would get an opportunity to make a statement. Imagine for one second and look at it like this. there is no question that the players on this team fully respect and even adore Tebow. That said they are still human and if you are on a team like this with as much talent as they have and EVERYONE talks about one player first. you have that player go down and have a chance to say HEY we are still a top rated team even without star player. That's a motivational reason. From a schematic reason you have an unknown eliment with Brantley that isn't all bad. More mobility better understanding and ability in the passing game.

    I liked Florida at 9.5 with the assumption that Tebow would play I LOVE Florida -7 with the possibility of Brantley playing.

    I agree, Brantly is a top recruit, LSU is a shakey team, the only shot LSU really has is mind-games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeshred View Post
    I agree, Brantly is a top recruit, LSU is a shakey team, the only shot LSU really has is mind-games.

    Everybody that plays for LSU and Florida or top recruits. That dont mean he will pan out to be anybody on a college level.
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    Crompton Tennessee QB was a top recruit and look at him. Garcia at South Carolina was a top recruit and look at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Everybody that plays for LSU and Florida or top recruits. That dont mean he will pan out to be anybody on a college level.
    like LSU's team? haha
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    Without Tebow Florida will have to throw a lot of there plays out the window. On a 4th a 1 Florida always had the guts to go for it simply because they had Tebow back to ride on. Not this time. Florida will not be Florida without Tebow. They will be even more avergage now without Tebow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbldown11 View Post
    like LSU's team? haha

    Like Florida offense.

    hahaha..

    all those top WR's you guys have is nothing on the college level. That offense was hiding behind Murphy and Harvin for years. They was exposed against Tennessee and they will be exposed again Saturday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Without Tebow Florida will have to throw a lot of there plays out the window. On a 4th a 1 Florida always had the guts to go for it simply because they had Tebow back to ride on. Not this time. Florida will not be Florida without Tebow. They will be even more avergage now without Tebow.
    Even more average???? First of all they are very much abover average compared to other college teams this year...and if you don't think so you're a helpless cause.

    So Tebow is out and now they are only an above average team. Still beats out an average LSU team
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    No offense to him because I like him overall, but I can't take anymore of ZB on this game. I'm done discussing Florida until the game is over.
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    Florida @ LSU
    LSU Opened (+9) Now (+7.5)

    "This move was Wise Guys taking advantage of the uncertain status of Tim Tebow. Offshore sportsbook Cris opened the game at (+11.5). Vegas waited a little longer and opened the Game at (+9). Since then the line has been bet down to (+7.5). Stan feels that this was strictly a position move as Wise Guys in town grabbed the highest number they could with LSU. As we get closer to Saturday the sharps will buy back Florida at (-7 or 7.5) creating a nice middle for themselves. Actually Stan was surprised that the Offshore Books and Vegas brought the number out so early with the uncertainty regarding Tebow. For a game of this nature they should of held the game off the board for a day or two to have a better idea if Tebow was going to play or not. Stan says that this move was not a result of steam but a positioning bet from Wise Guys who will buy back later in the week with Florida. "
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    LSU IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN AVERAGE TEAM....

    how does everyone not see this based on their body of work this year?
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    Z......coach Miles should hire you.
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