1. 12-21-12 10:19 AM #1
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    Ball State Vs. UCF-

    What is the play here? Is Wenning playing or not? If not, the unders sure look good.
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  2. 12-21-12 10:23 AM #2
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    Why wouldnt Wenning be playing? If he is, Im hitting Ball State money line
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  3. 12-21-12 10:37 AM #3
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    Ankle injury. I think the second team QB for Ball State is hurt also.
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  4. 12-21-12 10:58 AM #4
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    http://www.thestarpress.com/article/...TS20/312210018

    Wenning is playing!
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  5. 12-21-12 10:59 AM #5
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    Zero defense tonight. I like the OVER
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  6. 12-21-12 11:29 AM #6
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    Ball St ...winner
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  7. 12-21-12 11:46 AM #7
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    ucf weener
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  8. 12-21-12 02:15 PM #8
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    Both teams are dodgy against run but running the ball game plan eats clock, so I am apprehensive about over the total, I prefer the the underdog (Ball St) who has better offence, played against better schedule to cover the spread may be even SU win.

    I was on Ball St the last 3 games of the regular season after I came across about them only allowing much less 3rd down conversion than the whole year percentage which is usually a sign that they are improving and making more plays defensively. Using parameter again, in the last 5 games, they allowed 21/65 3rd down (32.31%) compare to total season stat of 72/172 (41.86%).

    For good measure UCF is 83/205 (40.49%) for the year and 38/82 (46.34%) over last 5 games. Another stat you might want to know, Ball St has 327 points in the red zone compare to UCF's 296. Locked in at +7.5, Only thing that worried was whether Wenning would play but it looks like he will.
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  9. 12-21-12 02:38 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by RetardStrength View Post
    Zero defense tonight. I like the OVER
    ucf is actually in the top 25 in opponents yards per point and hold their own in the red zone,,,alos solid yarps per play against so not sure why you would say "zero defense" as ucf has solid numbers in the areas i find most important...
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  10. 12-21-12 02:45 PM #10
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    UCF TT Over 33.5...UCF unloads their playbook against a team with an atrocious defense.
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  11. 12-21-12 02:58 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by neutral View Post
    Both teams are dodgy against run but running the ball game plan eats clock, so I am apprehensive about over the total, I prefer the the underdog (Ball St) who has better offence, played against better schedule to cover the spread may be even SU win.

    I was on Ball St the last 3 games of the regular season after I came across about them only allowing much less 3rd down conversion than the whole year percentage which is usually a sign that they are improving and making more plays defensively. Using parameter again, in the last 5 games, they allowed 21/65 3rd down (32.31%) compare to total season stat of 72/172 (41.86%).

    For good measure UCF is 83/205 (40.49%) for the year and 38/82 (46.34%) over last 5 games. Another stat you might want to know, Ball St has 327 points in the red zone compare to UCF's 296. Locked in at +7.5, Only thing that worried was whether Wenning would play but It looks like he will.

    While this is not a home game its close. UCF is allowing a home 3rd down conversion of 35.7%.
    The appearance of Ball State stopping 3rd% could also be that the 3 teams they faced struggled to complete 3rd down conversion especially the last 3 games. Combined those three offenses averaged 36.66% conversion rate which right now would rank about #83 out of #124.

    You also mentioned Ball State averaged 41.86% or #69Th against stopping opponents 3rd down conversions.
    The road average was worse at 44.34% and that includes 2 of the last 3 on the road. That number would be much higher without the recent improvement.
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  12. 12-21-12 03:23 PM #12
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    Under

    Under

    Under
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  13. 12-21-12 03:29 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulledclear View Post
    Under

    Under

    Under
    that what i did,,well 1st half under, hopefully cash that and be done for night, if not might come back with 2nd half under...
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  14. 12-21-12 03:43 PM #14
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    IMO Central Floridas defense will be the difference maker in this game. I see them slowing Ball State down and getting a few key stops early. Making Central Florida a sweat but a cover none the less. I don't watch much Conference USA football but did watch some of them against Ohio State and Missouri. Braxton Miller kicked their A$$ but, Missouri won because of special teams breakdowns by UCF. If UCF put points up on these two teams, I believe they will have their way with Ball States D. This is a really small lean for me but, I am a degenerate and football is on... So best of luck to all!

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  15. 12-21-12 03:51 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    that what i did,,well 1st half under, hopefully cash that and be done for night, if not might come back with 2nd half under...

    BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Whats up my nizzle. BYU and Under to easy. Cant get a read on a side tonight, strong lean to the Under though. GL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulledclear View Post
    BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Whats up my nizzle. BYU and Under to easy. Cant get a read on a side tonight, strong lean to the Under though. GL.
    i played 1st half under last night as well, not gonna lie i had sdst ml parlayed with uc davis in hoops (they won), but i did hit byu ml +150 live so turned out good, glad they were down early ....gun to my head id play ucf but their coach a drunk and not sure how motivated they are to be here, wouldnt be shocked if he had a bottle on the sideline...
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  17. 12-21-12 06:22 PM #17
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    Over is the play.

    When you think about it, both offenses are stronger than the opposing defense.

    UCF 10/3 O/U

    Ball st + 30 pts 10 of last 12.

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    Also on Ball St +7

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    More aggresive bettors might consider a fractional unit on this parly. I put a half a unit on it, pays 5.5X

    Ball st ML + 240

    Ball St/ UCF OV + 60 1/2

    gl
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  18. 12-21-12 07:10 PM #18
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    Knights are a lock. They cannot lose!
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  19. 12-21-12 07:26 PM #19
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    The guy with the Charlie Sheen picture that says "Wenning" on it definitely has the sign of the night.
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  20. 12-21-12 07:28 PM #20
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    Come home to see some asshole kicker misses an XP, better not fck me with that shit.
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  21. 12-21-12 07:38 PM #21
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    shit ass defense Cardinals have.
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  22. 12-21-12 07:40 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTnamja View Post
    shit ass defense Cardinals have.
    Yeah it's beyond atrocious. Unreal bad. 3 guys can't even tackle a qb
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  23. 12-21-12 08:00 PM #23
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    That was the worse red zone possesSion I have seEn in a while, and then the FG wAS HORRIFIC.
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    O'Leary is the worst coach in CFB, why not call a timeout before the FG to save some time.
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  25. 12-21-12 08:16 PM #25
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    O'leary was my coach at g tech. He always wins bowl games. Period. Great coach
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  26. 12-21-12 08:18 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicAtNight View Post
    O'leary was my coach at g tech. He always wins bowl games. Period. Great coach
    Last time I checked he isn't undefeated in bowl games you clown
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    That was the worse red zone possesSion I have seEn in a while, and then the FG wAS HORRIFIC.
    thought i had 1st half under on lock down after that miss...cant believe they let them go down the field that fast and easy...pricks..
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  28. 12-21-12 08:19 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicAtNight View Post
    O'leary was my coach at g tech. He always wins bowl games. Period. Great coach
    great coach..lmfao..all you gotta do is go back and watch the tape of tulsa gm and it pretty clear he far from a great coach,,gtfoh..he a much better drinker than a coach..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    great coach..lmfao..all you gotta do is go back and watch the tape of tulsa gm and it pretty clear he far from a great coach,,gtfoh..he a much better drinker than a coach..
    He'll write you a resume for a 12 pack of Bud.
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    how the f uck is Ball State going to win this game? mis-coverage, mis-tackle, wrong assignments, shit ass.
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    Never said he was undefeated did I? He had ucf ready for this game like he did a few years ago when they beat uga.
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    f uck Ball Shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTnamja View Post
    how the f uck is Ball State going to win this game? mis-coverage, mis-tackle, wrong assignments, shit ass.
    They're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicAtNight View Post
    Never said he was undefeated did I? He had ucf ready for this game like he did a few years ago when they beat uga.
    Yeah you said "he always wins bowl games, period" news flash that's saying he is undefeated in bowl games you illiterate clown
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    An ball st has the offensive power to come back an whore everyone on a backdoor cover, gotta play both halfs
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