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    ShivaBowl
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    Advanced System Strategies CFB & NFL

    I'm running a thread in NFL betting, along with Tommygunn and Degenregen.
    But I am going to keep this thread going throughout the year and I will keep you guys up to date.
    Here is the link to it



    Also, please check on it, for the NFL plays.
    If you have any questions or comments, please try to post them in NFL betting.

    Thank you

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    Today’s A/I Plays
    1 Unit
    Short: Arizona State
    Oct 18 9:00 PM ET Oregon Ducks –8 –105


    Working on something new…tracking it.
    1 Unit
    Oregon v Arizona State
    Game Total UNDER 69˝ -130

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    I dropped last years thread and I just dont feel right about abandoning the CFB forum altogether.
    Thanks

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    On the under as well Shiva. BOL

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    Thanks for your hard work ShivaBowl! Let me know if I can help with anything else.

    Tracking filter: Play under when AI picks a moderate dog. Week 8:
    All unders always need to be played with > ˝ point.
    We don't want to push so pay up to -130.

    AFAIK there's no record for this filter this season yet. So play at your own peril.
    I am going 0.5 units, but maybe ShivaBowl has something to say about this. Stay tuned.

    Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi State
    Middle Tennessee If > + 13
    Current Total @ 56.5 (The half point is always included for tracking purposes)

    New Mexico State @ Utah State
    New Mexico State If > +17.5
    Current Total @ 57

    Central Florida @ Memphis
    Memphis If > 18
    Current Total @ 50.5

    Wyoming @ Fresno State
    Wyoming if > 15
    Current Total @ 64

    Minnesota @ Wisconsin
    Minnesota if > 4.1
    Current Total @ 45.5

    Purdue @ Ohio State
    Purdue if > 11.7
    Current Total @ 62.5

    Tulane @ Texas El Paso
    Tulane if > 9.6
    Current Total @ 50.5
    Last edited by Degenregen; 10-18-12 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenregen View Post
    Thanks for your hard work ShivaBowl! Let me know if I can help with anything else.
    Yes 1/2 units are fine for right now, whatever to Win 50.00
    FYI: Believe it or not if you follow ST the only play today was Detroit because you cannot wager on a team that has lost two in a row.
    thanks for your help. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanov View Post
    On the under as well Shiva. BOL
    Hey Roma,
    It looks like my book topped out Earlier today at 70 now we are at 68 so things are looking good
    BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenregen View Post
    Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi State
    Middle Tennessee If > + 13
    Current Total @ 56.5 (The half point is always included for tracking purposes)
    So, are we supposed to play Middle Tennessee if the lines jumps to +14 (...)?
    Are all those totals to be played as a under?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbcoutinho View Post
    So, are we supposed to play Middle Tennessee if the lines jumps to +14 (...)?
    Are all those totals to be played as a under?
    The "Middle Tennessee If > +13" refers to the amount of points that need to be given in order to qualify as an AI underdog. In addition to this we're looking for lines in the 15-20 range only (For now.) on game day.

    The system is explained in ShivaBowls link from the OP on page 6 IIRC.

    I will update the games again later. Some caution on some of the plays:

    ________________________________________ ____________

    New Mexico State @ Utah State is no good, the line was too high in the first place. So NP (No play). The DIFF is quite even though so we'll monitor this. Line is @ 31.

    Central Florida is a little high as well. -22 with a total of 50 maybe a little dangerous but we'll monitor this. I already bet on this. This looks like a NP though.
    ________________________________________ ____________

    These games look like they will be the plays tomorrow, will do another update before game time.
    (Total numbers are raw. I.E. no half point incorporated. Always buy half a point.)

    Middle Tennessee looks like it will be a play. Line @ 19. Total @ 56.

    Wyoming @ Fresno State looking like it will be a play. Line @ 16.5. Total @ 62.5, trendling <. Use your own judgement on the lines.

    Minnesota @ Wisconsin is looking to be a play. Line @ 17. Total @ 45.5, trending >.

    Purdue @ Ohio looking like a play. Line @ 18.5 Total @ 62.

    Tulane @ El Paso: Line @ 16.5. Total @ 52, trending >.

    ________________________________________ _

    Going to add some games to track. Most of these don't look like they will be plays. This is just to help me track.

    Brigham Young @ Notre Dame
    Line is @ 13.5, AI qualifies @ > 10. Ultimately, it is a play if 15-20. Total @ 40.5.

    New Mexico @ Air Force, AI underdog qualifies @ 11.5. Line is @ 11, total @ 57. But under should be played only if line is at 15-20.

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    nice work shiva

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    All of the plays that I am posting are unders. I am hoping Shiva and Tommy can get to the other plays we are used to.

    So far these are the games that fit the filter that Shiva taught us:
    0.5 Unit plays. Remember to buy half a point.

    Important Note: All of the lines for these games need to fit the 15-20 range 10 minutes before the game in order to qualify as plays. Purdue @ Ohio needs to be in the 17-20 range.

    GAME LINE (10/19, Game Day) TOTAL (10/19, Game Day)
    Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi ST 19, 17.5 56, 56
    Wyoming @ Fresno State 16.5, 16.5 62.5, 62
    Minnesota @ Wisconsin 17, 16 45.5, 45
    Purdue @ Ohio 18.5, 18 62, 61.5
    Tulane @ El Paso 16.5, 16.5 52, 52.5

    BOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter8720 View Post
    nice work shiva
    Thanks, BOL Today

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    A/I plays went 1-0 Thursday +100.00
    1 Unit
    Oct 18 9:00 PM ET Oregon Ducks–8 –105 WIN


    A/I Under play went 1-0 Thursday +100.00
    1 Unit
    Oregon v Arizona State
    Total UNDER 69˝ -130 WIN

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    College Football Artificial Intelligence
    Team Projected Points for 10/20/2012 (Week 8)
    1.5 Unit Plays

    Updated
    A/I Over the total plays
    Never lay a 1/2-point, buy it down.
    Plays based on early lines.

    12:00 PM ET Virginia Tech @ Clemson 62
    12:00 PM ET LSU @ Texas A&M 53
    3:30 PM ET North Carolina State @ Maryland 45

    7:00 PM ET Idaho @ Louisiana 72.5
    7:00 PM ET Marshall @ Southern Miss 64.5
    8:00 PM ET Baylor @ Texas 80

    A/I Under the total plays
    1 Unit
    Always buy a ˝ point.
    Plays based on early lines.
    3:30 PM ET South Carolina @ Florida 41
    3:30 PM ET Indiana @ Navy 61.5
    3:30 PM ET Brigham Young @ Notre Dame 40.5

    A/I Plays
    1/2 Unit
    Never lay a 1/2-point on a favored.
    Always buy a 1/2-point on a dog.
    Never play the M/L on a dog, take the points.
    Always play the M/L on a favored up to –150
    Plays based on early lines.

    12:00 PM ET LSU –3.5
    3:30 PM ET Central Michigan +3
    3:30 PM ET Navy -145
    3:30 PM ET Florida –3.5
    No Play If FLA < -3
    3:30 PM ET Notre Dame –13
    3:30 PM ET North Carolina State –3.5
    3:30 PM ET South Florida +5.5
    7:00 PM ET Southern Miss -4
    8:00 PM ET Texas –8
    10:00 PM ET Washington +7.5

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    Shiva, thanks for the plays, but are your overs still as strong as their normal 2.5 unit counterparts? I see you've decreased them to 1.5 units. Is that because you are adding 1 unit plays on unders? Have you backtested the under plays? JW, i know it is saturday morning and we are all busy but if you get a chance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBowl View Post
    College Football Artificial Intelligence
    Team Projected Points for 10/20/2012 (Week 8)
    1.5 Unit Plays

    Updated
    A/I Over the total plays
    Never lay a 1/2-point, buy it down.
    Plays based on early lines.

    12:00 PM ET Virginia Tech @ Clemson 62
    12:00 PM ET LSU @ Texas A&M 53
    3:30 PM ET North Carolina State @ Maryland 45

    7:00 PM ET Idaho @ Louisiana 72.5
    7:00 PM ET Marshall @ Southern Miss 64.5
    8:00 PM ET Baylor @ Texas 80

    A/I Under the total plays
    1 Unit
    Always buy a ˝ point.
    Plays based on early lines.
    3:30 PM ET South Carolina @ Florida 41
    3:30 PM ET Indiana @ Navy 61.5
    3:30 PM ET Brigham Young @ Notre Dame 40.5

    A/I Plays
    1/2 Unit
    Never lay a 1/2-point on a favored.
    Always buy a 1/2-point on a dog.
    Never play the M/L on a dog, take the points.
    Always play the M/L on a favored up to –150
    Plays based on early lines.

    12:00 PM ET LSU –3.5
    3:30 PM ET Central Michigan +3
    3:30 PM ET Navy -145
    3:30 PM ET Florida –3.5
    No Play If FLA < -3
    3:30 PM ET Notre Dame –13
    3:30 PM ET North Carolina State –3.5
    3:30 PM ET South Florida +5.5
    7:00 PM ET Southern Miss -4
    8:00 PM ET Texas –8
    10:00 PM ET Washington +7.5
    A/I Over the total plays
    2 Unit Play
    Updated
    7:00 PM ET Kansas State @ West Virginia 71.5

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    Shiva r ur under plays an addition to Degenregen plays?

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    Pro Football Artificial Intelligence
    Team Projected Points for 10/21/2012 (Week 7)
    2.5 Unit

    Cleveland Browns v Indianapolis Colts
    Game Total OVER 46 -110


    Green Bay Packers v St Louis Rams
    Game Total OVER 44 -120


    Dallas Cowboys v Carolina Panthers
    Game Total OVER 44 -120


    New Orleans Saints v Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Game Total OVER 49 -110


    Pittsburgh Steelers v Cincinnati Bengals
    Game Total OVER 45 -110
    Last edited by ShivaBowl; 10-21-12 at 09:41 AM.

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    AI Play Week 9 CFB
    1 Unit
    Arkansas State v UL Lafayette
    Arkansas State +3˝ -110
    Points Awarded:

    hunter8720 gave ShivaBowl 2 SBR Point(s) for this post.


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    Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

    I cant find what your record is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtownguy487 View Post
    Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

    I cant find what your record is..
    I'm so good I don't need to keep a record everything I post wins.
    Also, when you address Shiva, make sure you use please and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBowl View Post
    I'm so good I don't need to keep a record everything I post wins.
    Also, when you address Shiva, make sure you use please and thank you.
    surely ur joking and not that arrogant...
    but then again this is the sbr forum so ive seen worse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtownguy487 View Post
    surely ur joking and not that arrogant...
    but then again this is the sbr forum so ive seen worse...
    Look pal, from now on, address me as, Mr. Shiva
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBowl View Post
    Look pal, from now on, address me as, Mr. Shiva
    thank you
    I teabag your chin Ms Shiva

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtownguy487 View Post
    I teabag your chin Ms Shiva
    Dear Mr. Shiva I respectfully request your records for college football and the NFL
    The reason why I Need them is, when I am doing my girl she yells out your name....
    Oh Siva oh Shiva You're the man on SBR
    So please when you have the time Mr. Shiva, I need all Your records and secrets .
    thank you and have a good night.
    Respectfully yours Gtownguy487

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    Keep posting winners shiva, please sir, lol, f that guy

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    MR. SHIVA ain't ALWAYS SOBER but when he is, HE POSTS MOSTLY WINS PLEASE YOU CAN BE SURE OF THAT

    THANK YOU

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    Thanks guy's Have you seen Gtownguy487 Girl? what a piece of ass.


    I'm having one of those nights I just took the Indians for 860 God bless them (at the jack table) I'm on 95 south heading into the city for a happy ending Tuesday, I have a six pack on ice and I'm smoking a nice Vegas #5 I have Michael Jackson
    on my custom-made Bose stereo system.
    Nothing can stop me now!
    life is good, take care
    Go A St

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    Hell yes! Shiva you are the man. A st is rolling ULL just like you are rolling down the 95 south. Take care bro. Hope the rest of your night is fabulous.

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    Winners win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtownguy487 View Post
    Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

    I cant find what your record is..
    When you have the time, come over to the dark side I have the W/L in that thread. LINK: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/nfl-bettin...s-nfl-cfb.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Winners win.
    TX: PT AND ST
    Are on DET tonight.
    Take Detroit W/Verlander over San Fran W/Zito NO PLAY if DET > -160

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    A/I Plays Went 1-0 yesterday +$100.00
    A. St +3.5 WIN

    A/I Plays Week 9 CFB
    Oct 25 7:30 PM ET Clemson –
    Right now at –11.5 buy it down to 10
    Or hold on, trending <-

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBowl View Post
    A/I Plays Week 9 CFB
    Oct 25 7:30 PM ET Clemson –
    Right now at –11.5 buy it down to 10
    Or hold on, trending <-
    Can you elaborate on this? I'm fairly new to betting and not sure I understand what you mean by "buy it down to 10 or hold on?"

    Btw, nice play last night. I should of listened!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray Rothbard View Post
    Can you elaborate on this? I'm fairly new to betting and not sure I understand what you mean by "buy it down to 10 or hold on?"

    Btw, nice play last night. I should of listened!
    You can either the line down to -10,or wait for the line to fall to -10 naturally.

    My recommendation is just wait until about 30 minutes B4 gametime, and make your decision.

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