1. 09-26-12 09:34 PM #1
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    Need Midwest insight. Talking Minny @ Iowa -7.5

    Both teams are probably very bad. Iowa is a lot more talented, but are having a dumpster fire of a year so far. The reason this line jumps out at me, is there is no way Iowa should be spotting a TD to anyone in the B1G.

    Obviously there is the issue of betting on bad teams - I get it, but I am still interested.

    I am leaning Minny, seem to be playing better and are getting a very good number.

    Also, how serious is RLM here? Seems that Iowa is getting the nod from bookmakers. 82% of the public on Minny, yet it is moved 1.5 "against" them.

    B1G has given me trouble this year, any insight would be appreciated.

    FWIW, I have this closer to a PK, maybe Iowa -1.
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  2. 09-26-12 09:38 PM #2
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    Gray's out, right?

    Take Iowa.
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  3. 09-26-12 09:41 PM #3
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    He is. That is concerning.

    Do you know when that info came out? Trying to figure if line move is due to that info being released or something else.
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  4. 09-26-12 09:48 PM #4
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    Iowa can't beat Mac teams..should have lost to NIU too...and they are expected to beat a big 10 team by more than a TD?
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  5. 09-26-12 09:51 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Iowa can't beat Mac teams..should have lost to NIU too...and they are expected to beat a big 10 team by more than a TD?
    This is my thought, damn near exactly.

    That said, Minny only barely beat UNLV - which should be considered a AA squad for all intents and purposes.

    The bad team "rule" might end up coming into play, but I just can't stop thinking Iowa is way overvalued here.
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  6. 09-26-12 10:06 PM #6
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    Biggest fukkin trap line of tthe season
    Yes im on minny but no i dont feel good about it
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  7. 09-26-12 10:10 PM #7
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    Minn Injuries

    Updated Pos Player Injury Status
    Att
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    Yds
    TD
    Int
    Rating
    09/22 QB MarQueis Gray ankle Doubtful
    44
    26
    398
    5
    1
    168.0
    4:15pm missed last game, is doubtful Saturday vs Iowa.
    Players listed as "?"
    09/24 WR Marcus Jones hip "?"
    10:34am injured last game, is "?" Saturday vs Iowa.
    Players listed as Doubtful
    09/26 OL Tommy Olson ankle Doubtful
    5:12am is downgraded to doubtful Saturday vs Iowa.
    Players listed as OUT
    09/26 DB Martez Shabazz toe OUT
    5:12am is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Iowa.
    09/25 WR Andre McDonald heart OUT
    4:01am is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Iowa.
    09/21 LB Quinn Bauducco back OUT
    9:22am is out indefinitely.
    09/01 WR Jamel Harbison ACL OUT
    11:27am is out for the season.
    08/14 OL Jimmy Gjere concussion OUT
    1:24pm is out for the season.
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    So Minny is banged up in a big way? I don't know, outside of the QB, how important these guys are.

    This is the one issue with college football that I (and I think everyone has), is that I don't know a lot of the teams as much as I should to be making a comfortable bet. But that is also where the value in CFB lies.

    Thanks for this though.
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  9. 09-26-12 10:16 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Iowa can't beat Mac teams..should have lost to NIU too...and they are expected to beat a big 10 team by more than a TD?
    This is all you need to know. Take the opposite of everything Brock likes and you will hit over 75%
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  10. 09-26-12 10:17 PM #10
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    minny backup qb will do better against iowa defense than gray would. backup qb better passer... the weakness to any iowa defense is a good passing qb that can pick apart there 'prevent defense'.
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  11. 09-26-12 11:44 PM #11
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    I bleed black and gold. Iowa is the type of team to beat Michigan and then lose to Minnesota...How the hell do you bet on a team like that?

    Iowa, even when they're good, never put a ton of points on the board..Might wanna take a look at the under.
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  12. 09-26-12 11:50 PM #12
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    Minnesota defense is nice. I don't take into account that UNLV game. I take Minnesota with the points.
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  13. 09-27-12 12:08 AM #13
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    Iowa has to be the only side
    Fade Lenders
    Fade perception after a loss like Iowa's
    Fade QB in 1st road start

    But Iowa could keep shitting themselves like the embarrassment they are. Iowa small if anything
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  14. 09-27-12 12:14 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunde91 View Post
    Iowa has to be the only side
    Fade Lenders
    Fade perception after a loss like Iowa's
    Fade QB in 1st road start

    But Iowa could keep shitting themselves like the embarrassment they are. Iowa small if anything
    Iowa struggles with mobile QB's. If Gray was playing, I'd be all over Minnesota. As it stands, I think you roll the dice with the Hawks.
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  15. 09-27-12 12:14 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunde91 View Post
    Iowa has to be the only side
    Fade Lenders
    Fade perception after a loss like Iowa's
    Fade QB in 1st road start

    But Iowa could keep shitting themselves like the embarrassment they are. Iowa small if anything
    sharp post

    sundae nailed it to the cross

    think I will pass though
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  16. 09-27-12 12:18 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herky View Post
    This is all you need to know. Take the opposite of everything Brock likes and you will hit over 75%
    Good job by your team losing to CENTRAL MICHIGAN Faggit
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  17. 09-27-12 03:09 AM #17
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    Minnesota needed 4 takeaways to beat Syracuse last week, 3 of which were with Syracuse on the Minny 30 or closer. The other takeaway was at the Syracuse 34 and the Gophers failed to score.

    I'm still considering going small on Iowa in this spot, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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  18. 09-27-12 03:40 AM #18
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    Even if the Minn QB players he threw from 4td and just 1 INT @ 491 yards. Cuse are a better team then Iowa and I expected the same thing to happen in this game with the QB having a good say. They still have their best reciever, those WRs on the injury list im not sure if they are good. Defense only giving up an average of 16 PPG too.....

    Minn +7....take and bake boys
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  19. 09-27-12 05:04 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkd32 View Post
    minny backup qb will do better against iowa defense than gray would. backup qb better passer... the weakness to any iowa defense is a good passing qb that can pick apart there 'prevent defense'.

    Shortell is a much better passer than Gray and the Gophs are a better team with Shortell in. Minnesota has beaten Iowa 2 years in a row now. Kill is starting to turn this team around.
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  20. 09-27-12 07:03 AM #20
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    Iowa or nothing... Line is begging for people to take Minnesota.
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  21. 09-27-12 08:41 AM #21
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    I took Minny +7 early expecting line to drop. OOOPS
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  22. 09-27-12 11:19 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlash View Post
    Cuse are a better team then Iowa
    Umm, no.
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  23. 09-27-12 11:22 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Gray's out, right?

    Take Iowa.
    Don't like him anyway.

    However, I still like Iowa to bounce back after last weeks performance and win by 10+. Minny looking at a letdown game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Don't like him anyway.

    However, I still like Iowa to bounce back after last weeks performance and win by 10+. Minny looking at a letdown game.
    I don't like Gray either, but he's exactly the kind of QB that gives Iowa fits.
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  25. 09-27-12 11:34 AM #25
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    I think line is begging people to take Minnesota...

    Iowa or no play
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  26. 09-27-12 11:34 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT WINGS View Post
    Iowa or nothing... Line is begging for people to take Minnesota.
    lol what he said...
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  27. 09-27-12 11:40 AM #27
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    Its like when I took Arizona state -6.5 vs Utah the other week, people were saying its a trap and vegas are begging for people to take it. Well sometimes you go with what you know, and I know Minn are a good team who have a shot at winning let alone getting a touchdown start. Iowa havent shown anything this season....so ill take 100 on Minn at +7
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  28. 09-27-12 04:37 PM #28
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    I simply don't buy into the 'bounce back' game. Last week was the hawks second home loss this year to less than stellar competition. I think that the hawks regressed since last year and the gophers have gotten better. Just seems as though the national perception is that the gophers haven't played anyone. That may be true, but WM is no pushover and the SU is better than their record suggests. They should have beaten NU and would have if not for a terrible personal foul call on 4th down within a minute left of the end of the game. 42-41 NU. Gophers defense held them to 10 points with the lone touchdown coming in garbage time (about a minute left in the game).

    So go ahead and take Iowa. They have shown nothing to prove that they can cover 7, even at home (not that it's been much of an advantage). I obviously have a bias, but I watch the other big ten teams as well. Iowa isn't very good. I'll be taking the Gophers M/L and the +7 and thank the books for not paying closer attention. Not that they have really deserved attention recently....
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  29. 09-27-12 07:53 PM #29
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    Love the Gophers. ML all day. Shortell > Gray as a QB. Defense is much improved from years past and Iowa, plain and simple, is terrible. Jerry Kill will have Minny ready to go before their bye week next week.
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    +245 for minny on the ml
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  31. 09-27-12 09:50 PM #31
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    Big Iowa fan and we suck. Even if Iowa wins, Coach Ferentz never goes for the kill. He plays so conservative with a lead that it will be close. Take Minny.
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  32. 09-28-12 10:44 AM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunde91 View Post
    Iowa has to be the only side
    Fade Lenders
    Fade perception after a loss like Iowa's
    Fade QB in 1st road start
    Shortell started at Michigan last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlash View Post
    Its like when I took Arizona state -6.5 vs Utah the other week, people were saying its a trap and vegas are begging for people to take it. Well sometimes you go with what you know, and I know Minn are a good team who have a shot at winning let alone getting a touchdown start. Iowa havent shown anything this season....so ill take 100 on Minn at +7
    What, exactly, has Minnesota shown?
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    Greek's at 7.5 now guys. That's a pretty big deal.

    As others have said, it's Iowa or nothing.
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  35. 09-28-12 02:59 PM #35
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    New QB on the road vs a well coached team that just got embarrassed. PASS
    I don't watch Minnesota games anymore anyway since Kill may die on the sideline at any time.

    I like Indiana/NW Over 59 tomorrow....it was 59-38 last year and Indiana's defense has barely improved. No pass rush whatsover. NW is starting 3 new guys in the secondary too and will let off a little with a big lead
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