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    Why shouldn't we hammer Cincy tomorrow??

    Did anyone actually watch Pitt vs Youngtown St?? I have no idea how that even happened......is Pitt that bad??

    And if they are really that bad, why is the line only -4 I know Cincy returns only a few starters on offense, but just by default, line should be higher

    Just scared this is one of those classic public burials in the making

    Any info here would be helpful

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    Pitt

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
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    I think the biggest factor in favor of Cincinnati is the fact that they have had weeks to prepare for this game, as opposed to only a couple of days for Pittsburgh. Short weeks always favor the home team.

    I don't think Cincinnati will run away with this, but home field and the fact that they have had the prep time should be enough to help them win by 7 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    I think the biggest factor in favor of Cincinnati is the fact that they have had weeks to prepare for this game, as opposed to only a couple of days for Pittsburgh. Short weeks always favor the home team.

    I don't think Cincinnati will run away with this, but home field and the fact that they have had the prep time should be enough to help them win by 7 or so.
    Exactly.....

    I can't come up with a logical reason for Pitt only getting 4

    Cincy -4 would be the fair line BEFORE Pitt got embarrassed by Youngstown St.......so what now??

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    Fair line would be Pitt +7 or +7.5 I think

    Youngstown State is worse than Cincinnati, and Pitt is on the road, but Pitt also has the luxury of having already played a game, and Cincy's offensive losses and first game rust will hold them back a bit.

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    I agree, something very fishy. Lose at home by 14 when ur giving 18.5 points, now you play a better team away and only get 4?

    Probably move to 5 or 5.5 by gametime

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    There is no transitive property between weeks. What is true won week is not reasonably predictable the next. Don't play Cincinatti. Do you think the people who do this for a living would leave +4 up all week because they didn't realize Pitt lost to Youngstown St and are on a short week? You've gotta be kidding yourself if that is what you call research.

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    Why does week 1 matter?
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    Pointing to the extra time Cincinnati has to prepare for this game is off-point, IMO. It seems pretty obvious to me that Pittsburgh underestimated Youngstown State, and paid for it, but that doesn't mean a big part of their preseason game-planning wasn't dedicated to the much more important Bearcats game.

    Add in the additional motivation of playing mad off that embarrassing loss, in a rivalry game that will be the last in the series and I have a hard time seeing the Panthers as anything but a team that's going to bring their A game tonight.
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    Slammed Cinci

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Slammed Cinci

    Why may i ask?

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    Munchie legeaux gained experience last year playin while collaros was hurt. He's going to run all over Pitt. Don't be fooled by pead leaving. We have tons of talent at RB without pead. Lots of young guns proving themselves. Loaded at Wr position as well.

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    6 Pitt players were suspended and out week one. Couple of them are Dlinemen and I think one of them was a starter last year. Another DL (Clemmings) missed the first game due to injury. He's listed as a starter this week.

    Pass.

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    Was about to throw 500 on cincinnati then I see convicks post.

    How many where starters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsguy04 View Post
    Munchie legeaux gained experience last year playin while collaros was hurt. He's going to run all over Pitt. Don't be fooled by pead leaving. We have tons of talent at RB without pead. Lots of young guns proving themselves. Loaded at Wr position as well.
    Obvious homer. But thanks for the info.... i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamL2424 View Post
    Obvious homer. But thanks for the info.... i guess
    Not really. Our defense still sucks. But it's refreshing to know our defense won't completely suck because the spread offense is perfect for Munchie because he can get out and use his speed.

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    Is ray graham playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    Was about to throw 500 on cincinnati then I see convicks post.

    How many where starters?
    Clemmings and Ezell are starters on the Defensive line. Hale is a backup DE. So they are getting back 3 linemen this week. None of the other guys are starters.

    I dont want any part of this game, but yall are free to take a stab at either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Why does week 1 matter?
    It definitely matters.....maybe not as much as some people believe

    Thats why I was asking if anyone saw Pitt vs Younstown St because I did not.

    If it were a few weird turnovers, then week 1 doesn't matter that much.....If Pitt was being beat across the lines and physically dominated, then it definitely is cause for concern

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    Game scares me, on paper Pitt should be closer to +9..YSU destroyed them with the spread last week, so they had a week to prepare for it again and honestly killed themselves with some bad moves (not making a 4th and 1 deep while trying to come back, and a couple of big fumbles).

    Pitt has VA tech next week, concur has a cupcake. If Pitt loses this, they start 0-3.

    Finally, this is big least football, so its anyone's game. Ill take bearcats for a half unit tonight if I can still get 4 someplace (free half point).

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    Both bad teams

    Lean towards home team..only angle

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    Its easy- wait for Brock to take a side and then hammer the other!
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    I like Cinci at home this year. Will be playing them as dogs at home to superior teams this year as well.

    I am 3-4 this year in college football. So dont take much into my pick.

    Got the -4 and happy as line looks to be moving. GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    I like Cinci at home this year. Will be playing them as dogs at home to superior teams this year as well.

    I am 3-4 this year in college football. So dont take much into my pick.

    Got the -4 and happy as line looks to be moving. GL
    Bigday............I might tail you for a nickel BLINDLY. Should I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    Bigday............I might tail you for a nickel BLINDLY. Should I?
    I wouldn't.

    Save up and tail MMAChicka on 9/22... (no taking advantage of spouses)

    She has a MMA vid coming for that UFC event.

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    I don't bet mma

    I bet football. And basketball.

    Bigday. If I tail and it loses I want my money back. And I'll get it. One way or another.

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    Chicka makes me hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    I don't bet mma

    I bet football. And basketball.

    Bigday. If I tail and it loses I want my money back. And I'll get it. One way or another.

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    Pitt ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    Chicka makes me hard
    Chicka was doing stuff to me last night, like she was fukkin 18 again!

    I guess that's why they call Wednesday, humpday??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Chicka was doing stuff to me last night, like she was fukkin 18 again!

    I guess that's why they call Wednesday, humpday??
    Pics or it didn't happen

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    Pitt +10 and over teaser is the way to go

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    intial lean to pitt + gametime line and over. this defense did give up almost 400 yards and 31 points to youngstown st.

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    A couple things stand out to me in this one:

    Week 1 let down by Pitt may actually be reason line would more favor them in a way...clearly came out flat and unmotivated vs. YST. I'd expect a bit more energy tonight, and on national TV at that.

    Cincy returns 7 starters on defense....and has a very strong secondary. They are fine at RB despite Pead leaving. WR they return 2 starters, but neither was actually that impressive and/or prolific last year.

    Pitt does get 2 starters back on defense....no doubt that should help, but, how much?

    Overall, I expect a Cincy win by 6 or 7....and I expect the line to be there around kickoff as well.

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