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  • PhattDaddy204
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    #1
    Clemson will get hammered by Ohio State
    Pittsburgh beat Clemson at Clemson.

    Penn State deserves to be in over Clemson.
  • sleeper
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    #2
    What's the spread gonna be? Can't wait to pound it
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    • PhattDaddy204
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      #3
      Ohio State -3.5 opening line
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      • BigdaddyQH
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        #4
        Ohio State's defense has not played against a QB the caliber of Deshaun Watson. Ohio State lucked out in their last two games.
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        • dmncnlou
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          #5
          Clemson. 38-20
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          • Eddy Munny
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            #6
            Clemson get hammered by Ohio State? Not a chance
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            • PhattDaddy204
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              #7
              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
              Ohio State's defense has not played against a QB the caliber of Deshaun Watson. Ohio State lucked out in their last two games.
              Watson not any better then OKLAHOMA's QB which Ohio State crushed. Ohio State blows out this soft team.
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              • PhattDaddy204
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                #8
                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                Clemson get hammered by Ohio State? Not a chance
                Eddy I love your fight. But your wrong on this one my man.
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                • jtoler
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                  #9
                  Sometimes its as simple as taking the better coach. State wins.
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                  • Eddy Munny
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PhattDaddy204
                    Eddy I love your fight. But your wrong on this one my man.
                    No way... I already bet Clemson before I lose the hook. How is this team soft? Sure, they're not the team defensively they were a year ago, but they are still very stout up front and are able to make plays because of that. Offensively, however, they are probably the best team in America. Watson, Gallman, with those stud WR's and Leggett at TE are going to give Ohio State all kinds of problems.

                    And speaking of soft, don't confuse this Buckeye team with the one that won the national championship a couple years ago. This team is not as talented or experienced as that one. We're talking about a team that barely beat Northwestern in the Shoe, escaped Wisky, lost to Penn St, and were outplayed by Michigan save for a few plays.

                    Biggy's right when he says that Ohio State hasn't seen a quarterback like Watson. They haven't seen anything close to the overall team speed of Clemson and getting points is a gift. It's going to be a rematch of Alabama and Clemson for all the marbles.
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                    • jtoler
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                      #11
                      Gonna wait to see if its bet down, if it gets bet to -3 itll go back up, Ill take State -3.
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                      • eeezzzz
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PhattDaddy204
                        Pittsburgh beat Clemson at Clemson.

                        Penn State deserves to be in over Clemson.
                        Pittsburgh beat Penn State too you idiot.
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                        • jtoler
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by eeezzzz
                          Pittsburgh beat Penn State too you idiot.
                          I think he knows that, he's implying that Penn State lost to them on the road though.
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                          • shopbar picks
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                            #14
                            Clemson should have at least 2 losses. Not even close to last year's team
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                            • stackz125
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                              #15
                              No way
                              Clemson will beat Ohio by min. 7 points
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                              • PhattDaddy204
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by eddy munny
                                no way... I already bet clemson before i lose the hook. How is this team soft? Sure, they're not the team defensively they were a year ago, but they are still very stout up front and are able to make plays because of that. Offensively, however, they are probably the best team in america. Watson, gallman, with those stud wr's and leggett at te are going to give ohio state all kinds of problems.

                                And speaking of soft, don't confuse this buckeye team with the one that won the national championship a couple years ago. This team is not as talented or experienced as that one. We're talking about a team that barely beat northwestern in the shoe, escaped wisky, lost to penn st, and were outplayed by michigan save for a few plays.

                                Biggy's right when he says that ohio state hasn't seen a quarterback like watson. They haven't seen anything close to the overall team speed of clemson and getting points is a gift. It's going to be a rematch of alabama and clemson for all the marbles.
                                clemson a fraud and urban myer will expose that week secondary. Watson will not go up and down the field against ohio state. Va tech blasted them on offense.

                                Eddy save your coin or bet ohio state. You seem like a nice fella and i would hate it if books got your green backs.

                                Bol
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                                • winitall
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                                  #17
                                  I think Ohio state will beat Clemson too....Clemson doesn't do good against a decent team.
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                                  • blowjoe2020
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                                    #18
                                    Right, it is better to bet the line than the teams! If it came out at minus 3.5 then all the "novice" money will go on to plus 3.5. If Ohio State had come out at minus 2.5 then all the idiot money would go on to them. The novices always get suckered in on betting either plus 3.5 or minus 2.5. Just like the suckers bet plus 7.5 and minus 6.5. Because they think the half a point will "matter" and they will win by a half a point. Vegas knows this and makes boo-koos of money by making the line and knowing what side it is going to make the majority of the public bet on. this stuff about who beat who, and who is better than who is just folly. With Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise. I never bet minus 2.5 or minus 6.5 because of that. Nor do I bet plus 3.5 or plus 7.5 because of it. My 2 favorite bets are plus 2.5 and plus 6.5. I feel like I don't even have to watch the game when I bet one of those 2 lines, because they win so often. But anyway though, we will see on New Year's Eve, won't we?
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                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by blowjoe2020
                                      Right, it is better to bet the line than the teams! If it came out at minus 3.5 then all the "novice" money will go on to plus 3.5. If Ohio State had come out at minus 2.5 then all the idiot money would go on to them. The novices always get suckered in on betting either plus 3.5 or minus 2.5. Just like the suckers bet plus 7.5 and minus 6.5. Because they think the half a point will "matter" and they will win by a half a point. Vegas knows this and makes boo-koos of money by making the line and knowing what side it is going to make the majority of the public bet on. this stuff about who beat who, and who is better than who is just folly. With Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise. I never bet minus 2.5 or minus 6.5 because of that. Nor do I bet plus 3.5 or plus 7.5 because of it. My 2 favorite bets are plus 2.5 and plus 6.5. I feel like I don't even have to watch the game when I bet one of those 2 lines, because they win so often. But anyway though, we will see on New Year's Eve, won't we?
                                      So I'm a novice simply because I took Clemson at plus 3.5? Lmao... I'd say you're a novice because you're completely over-analyzing a point spread for you which you can't even be sure of it's motive, nor which way it'll move in the coming weeks.

                                      By neglecting to handicap the two FOOTBALL TEAMS involved in the FOOTBALL GAME and focusing your energy on a number meant to broker action on the game, set by people who themselves do not know the future outcome, you're the one who comes of looking like an amateur, who's unsure of himself, and leans on what amounts to superstition to place his bets.
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                                      • JayDr3am
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                        So I'm a novice simply because I took Clemson at plus 3.5? Lmao... I'd say you're a novice because you're completely over-analyzing a point spread for you which you can't even be sure of it's motive, nor which way it'll move in the coming weeks.

                                        By neglecting to handicap the two FOOTBALL TEAMS involved in the FOOTBALL GAME and focusing your energy on a number meant to broker action on the game, set by people who themselves do not know the future outcome, you're the one who comes of looking like an amateur, who's unsure of himself, and leans on what amounts to superstition to place his bets.
                                        i agree with you .. in these type of matchups and situations the "spread indicator" is thrown out of the window.. 3 is the most neutral number and they do that for a reason. confusion. you have to know both teams weaknesses and strengths to get any kind of grasp on this game
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                                        • blowjoe2020
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                                          #21
                                          LOL Well one of you posted about the spread being 3 flat. So to that comment, yes Jay, I totally agree that IF the spread was 3 flat then that number would be absolutely neutral and the action would not be influenced either way.
                                          But the 3.5 number is nowhere near a "neutral" spread number! Since they put it at 3.5, then there are PLENTY of people, whether novices or not, that it will influence into taking plus 3.5 simply because of that extra half a point!
                                          Now as for Ed, you can forget the personal attacks and you saying that I called you a "novice"! LOL I don't see your name anywhere in my post. So since you didn't seem to read what I wrote, or you didn't comprehend what I wrote, I will type it one more time.
                                          If you don't read it or comprehend it THIS time, then I will stop wasting our time!
                                          You write "you're completely over-analyzing a point spread for you which you can't even be sure of it's motive."
                                          LOL Buddy, if you don't think that the books putting the line out at 3.5 instead of 3 flat is not TOTALLY motivated by them knowing that it will make the novice public flood their money onto Clemson because they will be getting the extra half point from 3, then you are less than a novice!
                                          Why do you think buying a half a point either way off of 3 flat (or 7 flat) on a bet is 20 or 30% EXTRA juice? Because of how different and important 3.5 and 7.5 are!
                                          I know exactly what the "motive" is by Vegas putting the line out at 3.5 instead of 3 flat. If you had read what I said instead of focusing on the word "novice" (which I didn't even call you!) then you would see that all I basically wrote was that when Vegas makes a line like 3.5 or 7.5 then their "motive" behind it is that they KNOW the novice public will always get suckered into betting plus 3.5 or + 7.5. Because they think the half a point might "matter" and they might win by a half a point. Vegas knows this and makes boo-koos of money by making the line and knowing what side it is going to make the majority of the public bet on.
                                          That's all I ever said and that's all I ever meant!
                                          So like I ALSO said.... with Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise.
                                          And you also mentioned something about "people who themselves do not know the future outcome" LOL Pal, NOBODY knows the future outcome of a sporting event! I just hope that doesn't mean that you DO think you know the outcome because you "handicapped" it! LOL You'd be the biggest laughing stock to me that I'd ever imagined!
                                          Vegas and the online books set the lines not because of any other "motive" than to simply try and get equal action on both sides where they can rake the 10% grease and not risk anything, but when they put one out at 3.5 or 7.5 it is extremely important and influential as to which side the public suckers are going to take. That's why I said Vegas had "balls" to start it out at 3.5 because they know the flood of early public action that is going to produce on the Clemson side. That's why I also said
                                          It leads me to believe that they think OSU will cruise.
                                          As for "Handicapping"! LOL Well I think it is absolute folly. A fumble here, an interception there, or a bad spot or a bad call, and all your "handicapping" is immediately out the window!
                                          so please don't focus on "assuming" that I called YOU a novice! I'm just having fun here.
                                          If you are not having fun with me then just don't reply!
                                          I stopped driving myself crazy trying to "handicap" games 15 years ago! And like I said I just started looking at the lines. They tell you SO much about who Vegas is trying to influence you into taking. And then I try to get on the Vegas side of the game. I don't even look at teams as much as I look at the line. It may seem absolutely stupid, or "superstitious" or "amateurish" to you, but I've changed many peoples' minds when they see how often the OPPOSITE of what the novice public takes works on lines with these 4 important numbers of 2.5, 3.5, 6.5, and 7.5. Start looking and you will see that taking my 2 favorite bets of +2.5 and +6.5 runs at about a 65 or even 70% clip.
                                          That is why I also posted: "My 2 favorite bets are plus 2.5 and plus 6.5. I feel like I don't even have to watch the game when I bet one of those 2 lines, because they win so often."
                                          All you focused on out of everything that I wrote was that you thought for some reason I had called YOU a novice when I really did not. You didn't even comprehend ANYTHING I wrote after your brain focused on thinking you had been called a novice. You don't even care that Clemson is +3.5, that number means NOTHING to you, You'd take Clemson if they were only plus 2.5! (So would I by the way! If OSU had come out at minus 2.5 then I'd have a 10 star on Clemson!) You missed my WHOLE point which is that I look at lines, not teams! (And I sure as hell don't waste time "handicapping"! One fumble or interception, or a missed 3rd and 1 resulting in a punt makes all handicapping go right down the drain and you are just left seeing if you have the right side or not.) And like I said I think being on the right side of the LINE that Vegas set is much more important than handicapping! If you disagree and you don't think that lines matter, then who cares? It doesn't matter to me! It is one of the only things that I have seen in 25 years that consistently works.
                                          So now please focus on us having a good time until DEC 31st! And then we will see who is right!
                                          I will bet you 2 things: #1 the half point off three flat that will make the novice public sucker into taking +3.5 will NOT come into play on deciding the spread. And #2 Like I said in the beginning, that you totally overlooked while only focusing on the word "novice",
                                          "With Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the early "novice public" action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise."
                                          Just always remember, that you, or anyone else taking the points is NEVER a bad idea to me! EXCEPT when it is plus 3.5! That is the ONLY one that I DON'T like! (and also +7.5)
                                          If Clemson was +2.5 then I'd be posting ALL the exact same stuff, EXCEPT that I would be saying that Clemson was a 10 star pick in my opinion!
                                          So as you can see, I'm not AGAINST you in ANY way, nor did I say you are a novice, I'm only against the side of the 3.5 line that you have taken! I think that is who Vegas has made the novices bet on by setting the line at 3.5. That's it! That is how I bet. I don't drive myself crazy "handicapping" & trying to figure out who is "better" than who. I bet lines, not teams. So b
                                          ased on the 3.5 line that Vegas has set, I think OSU will win & get the cover. If it was 2.5 then I'd think Clemson +2.5 was the winner. That's it. End of story. The end.
                                          Now would you like to have some fun cutting up about it since neither of us have a clue who will fumble or drop a pass or who will win the game?
                                          Or will you only focus on some name that you think I called you in this post and get ill about it & not even comprehend the rest? LOL It's your choice!
                                          Take care.
                                          Last edited by blowjoe2020; 12-07-16, 02:16 AM.
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                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                            #22
                                            I didn't read your entire thesis... But from what I gathered, all you're alluding to is the fact that the number three, much like seven, is key in the game of football. Well no shit, Sherlock. I just summed up the last several hours of your life in one succinct sentence.

                                            Key numbers are more likely to tilt the balance of the action one way or the other with a mere half-point move. Again, no shit Sherlock. But this idea of "betting the number" as a hard rule, ridding oneself of any additional input concerning a game, is foolhardy at best, and fukktardy at worst.

                                            The oddsmakers just have you by the balls is all, and you're all to willing to allow their firm grip around your grapesack. Hell, at this point, it probably feels like home. I doubt you'd recognize you're own nuts without the persistent squeeze that compels you towards passive "strategies" like betting the number.
                                            Last edited by Eddy Munny; 12-07-16, 03:38 AM.
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                                            • PhattDaddy204
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by blowjoe2020
                                              LOL Well one of you posted about the spread being 3 flat. So to that comment, yes Jay, I totally agree that IF the spread was 3 flat then that number would be absolutely neutral and the action would not be influenced either way.
                                              But the 3.5 number is nowhere near a "neutral" spread number! Since they put it at 3.5, then there are PLENTY of people, whether novices or not, that it will influence into taking plus 3.5 simply because of that extra half a point!
                                              Now as for Ed, you can forget the personal attacks and you saying that I called you a "novice"! LOL I don't see your name anywhere in my post. So since you didn't seem to read what I wrote, or you didn't comprehend what I wrote, I will type it one more time.
                                              If you don't read it or comprehend it THIS time, then I will stop wasting our time!
                                              You write "you're completely over-analyzing a point spread for you which you can't even be sure of it's motive."
                                              LOL Buddy, if you don't think that the books putting the line out at 3.5 instead of 3 flat is not TOTALLY motivated by them knowing that it will make the novice public flood their money onto Clemson because they will be getting the extra half point from 3, then you are less than a novice!
                                              Why do you think buying a half a point either way off of 3 flat (or 7 flat) on a bet is 20 or 30% EXTRA juice? Because of how different and important 3.5 and 7.5 are!
                                              I know exactly what the "motive" is by Vegas putting the line out at 3.5 instead of 3 flat. If you had read what I said instead of focusing on the word "novice" (which I didn't even call you!) then you would see that all I basically wrote was that when Vegas makes a line like 3.5 or 7.5 then their "motive" behind it is that they KNOW the novice public will always get suckered into betting plus 3.5 or + 7.5. Because they think the half a point might "matter" and they might win by a half a point. Vegas knows this and makes boo-koos of money by making the line and knowing what side it is going to make the majority of the public bet on.
                                              That's all I ever said and that's all I ever meant!
                                              So like I ALSO said.... with Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise.
                                              And you also mentioned something about "people who themselves do not know the future outcome" LOL Pal, NOBODY knows the future outcome of a sporting event! I just hope that doesn't mean that you DO think you know the outcome because you "handicapped" it! LOL You'd be the biggest laughing stock to me that I'd ever imagined!
                                              Vegas and the online books set the lines not because of any other "motive" than to simply try and get equal action on both sides where they can rake the 10% grease and not risk anything, but when they put one out at 3.5 or 7.5 it is extremely important and influential as to which side the public suckers are going to take. That's why I said Vegas had "balls" to start it out at 3.5 because they know the flood of early public action that is going to produce on the Clemson side. That's why I also said
                                              It leads me to believe that they think OSU will cruise.
                                              As for "Handicapping"! LOL Well I think it is absolute folly. A fumble here, an interception there, or a bad spot or a bad call, and all your "handicapping" is immediately out the window!
                                              so please don't focus on "assuming" that I called YOU a novice! I'm just having fun here.
                                              If you are not having fun with me then just don't reply!
                                              I stopped driving myself crazy trying to "handicap" games 15 years ago! And like I said I just started looking at the lines. They tell you SO much about who Vegas is trying to influence you into taking. And then I try to get on the Vegas side of the game. I don't even look at teams as much as I look at the line. It may seem absolutely stupid, or "superstitious" or "amateurish" to you, but I've changed many peoples' minds when they see how often the OPPOSITE of what the novice public takes works on lines with these 4 important numbers of 2.5, 3.5, 6.5, and 7.5. Start looking and you will see that taking my 2 favorite bets of +2.5 and +6.5 runs at about a 65 or even 70% clip.
                                              That is why I also posted: "My 2 favorite bets are plus 2.5 and plus 6.5. I feel like I don't even have to watch the game when I bet one of those 2 lines, because they win so often."
                                              All you focused on out of everything that I wrote was that you thought for some reason I had called YOU a novice when I really did not. You didn't even comprehend ANYTHING I wrote after your brain focused on thinking you had been called a novice. You don't even care that Clemson is +3.5, that number means NOTHING to you, You'd take Clemson if they were only plus 2.5! (So would I by the way! If OSU had come out at minus 2.5 then I'd have a 10 star on Clemson!) You missed my WHOLE point which is that I look at lines, not teams! (And I sure as hell don't waste time "handicapping"! One fumble or interception, or a missed 3rd and 1 resulting in a punt makes all handicapping go right down the drain and you are just left seeing if you have the right side or not.) And like I said I think being on the right side of the LINE that Vegas set is much more important than handicapping! If you disagree and you don't think that lines matter, then who cares? It doesn't matter to me! It is one of the only things that I have seen in 25 years that consistently works.
                                              So now please focus on us having a good time until DEC 31st! And then we will see who is right!
                                              I will bet you 2 things: #1 the half point off three flat that will make the novice public sucker into taking +3.5 will NOT come into play on deciding the spread. And #2 Like I said in the beginning, that you totally overlooked while only focusing on the word "novice",
                                              "With Vegas having the balls to put the line at 3.5 instead of 3 flat, and knowing that it will make the majority of the early "novice public" action be put on Clemson +3.5 then I'd wager that they think OSU will cruise."
                                              Just always remember, that you, or anyone else taking the points is NEVER a bad idea to me! EXCEPT when it is plus 3.5! That is the ONLY one that I DON'T like! (and also +7.5)
                                              If Clemson was +2.5 then I'd be posting ALL the exact same stuff, EXCEPT that I would be saying that Clemson was a 10 star pick in my opinion!
                                              So as you can see, I'm not AGAINST you in ANY way, nor did I say you are a novice, I'm only against the side of the 3.5 line that you have taken! I think that is who Vegas has made the novices bet on by setting the line at 3.5. That's it! That is how I bet. I don't drive myself crazy "handicapping" & trying to figure out who is "better" than who. I bet lines, not teams. So b
                                              ased on the 3.5 line that Vegas has set, I think OSU will win & get the cover. If it was 2.5 then I'd think Clemson +2.5 was the winner. That's it. End of story. The end.
                                              Now would you like to have some fun cutting up about it since neither of us have a clue who will fumble or drop a pass or who will win the game?
                                              Or will you only focus on some name that you think I called you in this post and get ill about it & not even comprehend the rest? LOL It's your choice!
                                              Take care.
                                              Great write up. Sharp money going to POUND OHIO STATE -4 by kick off. I put $1100 on -3 today.

                                              BOL
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                                              • PhattDaddy204
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                I didn't read your entire thesis... But from what I gathered, all you're alluding to is the fact that the number three, much like seven, is key in the game of football. Well no shit, Sherlock. I just summed up the last several hours of your life in one succinct sentence.

                                                Key numbers are more likely to tilt the balance of the action one way or the other with a mere half-point move. Again, no shit Sherlock. But this idea of "betting the number" as a hard rule, ridding oneself of any additional input concerning a game, is foolhardy at best, and fukktardy at worst.

                                                The oddsmakers just have you by the balls is all, and you're all to willing to allow their firm grip around your grapesack. Hell, at this point, it probably feels like home. I doubt you'd recognize you're own nuts without the persistent squeeze that compels you towards passive "strategies" like betting the number.
                                                EDDY your one smart dude. Also a clever smart asssss. I enjoy your write ups even when we disagree.
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                                                • Renegades
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                                                  #25
                                                  I agree with blowjobs theory but I think that works much better in the nfl than cfb
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                                                  • M.W.
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                                                    #26
                                                    You're out of your mind. Watson is head and shoulders above Mayfield.
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                                                    • jtoler
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                      I didn't read your entire thesis... But from what I gathered, all you're alluding to is the fact that the number three, much like seven, is key in the game of football. Well no shit, Sherlock. I just summed up the last several hours of your life in one succinct sentence.

                                                      Key numbers are more likely to tilt the balance of the action one way or the other with a mere half-point move. Again, no shit Sherlock. But this idea of "betting the number" as a hard rule, ridding oneself of any additional input concerning a game, is foolhardy at best, and fukktardy at worst.

                                                      The oddsmakers just have you by the balls is all, and you're all to willing to allow their firm grip around your grapesack. Hell, at this point, it probably feels like home. I doubt you'd recognize you're own nuts without the persistent squeeze that compels you towards passive "strategies" like betting the number.
                                                      I know what Joe is saying, I get the same feelings when I see those lines, I took a +2.5 on Sat. for that same reason. It was Temple, I bet them big. Its just a line and doesnt mean the outcome is gonna do what the line is implying but when the number man hangs a -3.5 or 4 or a +2.5 depending on the teams and home/away it sometimes says something to me right away, I take that into consideration then I go ahead and do my normal capping. With that said, Clemson scares me, I know what they bring to the table Ive watched them all year, I havent seen much of State play this year, what I did see they werent too impressive in those games but they were up against stellar competition.
                                                      Last edited by jtoler; 12-07-16, 02:01 PM.
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                                                      • PhattDaddy204
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                                                        • 09-15-16
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by M.W.
                                                        You're out of your mind. Watson is head and shoulders above Mayfield.
                                                        Wrong look at the stats my friend.
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                                                        • dmncnlou
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-17-11
                                                          • 924

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PhattDaddy204
                                                          Wrong look at the stats my friend.
                                                          Pretty stupid. That's why Watson is going be the number one pick in the nfl and Baker is going back to college. He's better!
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                                                          • PhattDaddy204
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dmncnlou
                                                            Pretty stupid. That's why Watson is going be the number one pick in the nfl and Baker is going back to college. He's better!
                                                            Watson will not be number one pick in draft. I bet he just has a cup of coffee in NFL at best.

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                                                            • ZINISTER
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                                                              • 10-03-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Urban Meyer or Dabozo? Hmmm That's that folks! Let's NOT over analyze. OSU a good young team. Bama smashes their way to the Trophy! OSU needs to improve play calling! If that's not addressed, they will lose bad to Bama. This one is a lay-up! Stick it on the Buckeys and study another game. Penn State got focked. I thought they would sneak in the back door. They are known for that. lol
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                                                              • PhattDaddy204
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                                                                • 09-15-16
                                                                • 2979

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ZINISTER
                                                                Urban Meyer or Dabozo? Hmmm That's that folks! Let's NOT over analyze. OSU a good young team. Bama smashes their way to the Trophy! OSU needs to improve play calling! If that's not addressed, they will lose bad to Bama. This one is a lay-up! Stick it on the Buckeys and study another game. Penn State got focked. I thought they would sneak in the back door. They are known for that. lol
                                                                Urban Meyer baby. Dabozo is a dufus
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                                                                • M.W.
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-07-08
                                                                  • 1668

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dabo won't be doing the x's and o's. Clemson's in good hands with Brent Venables handling the defense.
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                                                                  • M.W.
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-07-08
                                                                    • 1668

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dabo is a salesman and a manager. He actually has an MBA, if you can believe it.

                                                                    He does a great job selling the program to potential recruits, and he's done an excellent job with his hires, especially Chad Morris and Venables. He gets involved in game planning and playcalling to some extent, but he does delegate.
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                                                                    • PhattDaddy204
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                                                                      • 09-15-16
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by M.W.
                                                                      Dabo is a salesman and a manager. He actually has an MBA, if you can believe it.

                                                                      He does a great job selling the program to potential recruits, and he's done an excellent job with his hires, especially Chad Morris and Venables. He gets involved in game planning and playcalling to some extent, but he does delegate.
                                                                      He is such a dork unlike my man URBAN. You have to love a guy named URBAN OVER DEBOZO. Great handicapping on my part noticing the HUGE NAME DIFFERENCE.

                                                                      LOL
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