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    Quote Originally Posted by blackberry_juice View Post
    This is gonna sound crazy but what are the chances of a rigged LSU win. The BCS will be killed by the media if Bama wins and there's some sort of split with LSU/ Ok St. The BCS has to want LSU to come out with the win here or their entire system loses tons of value and possibly vanishes in a couple years. This would be the ultimate "BCS is a joke, doesn't even determine a true national championship" example. I'm not very into conspiracy theories or believe in rigged games, but if there was a spot where I'd buy it, it would be tomorrow night and LSU winning on a few questionable calls. Just sayin...
    With all due respect, the chances of the NCAA rigging the game is 0.00%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    The lure to buy or tease the LSU +2 is done in an effort to save what the Book pays out when LSU wins by 2 scores. Some will figure 2 points could be the difference, and will pay -110. Others will be lured to buy a point or so to make it +3 or +3.5, which will cost you like -130 or -140. Others will be lured to the tease, so they can make it +8, which again will cost you more juice. The Book much rather pay out on -110, -130, -140, than paying out on +120. The Book figures if you take Bama -2 or the -140 ML, buy points or tease Bama, isn't going to do you any good when LSU wins by 2 scores. All the Bama bets then lose. It's truly genius when the Book thinks LSU will win by 2 scores, to not give 2 points to Bama, but to make LSU the dog. Only the folks bold enough to take the LSU ML, will have maximized their gains. Though as you can see, many will be lured to taking the points, buying points and teasing in effort to increase their chance of winning. However, they do so by sacrificing winnings, thus reducing what the Book will have to pay out. To repeat, all the Bama bets lose, and if you take LSU and the points, buy points or tease LSU, you'll see that is was pointless to do so and you just reduced your own payout.

    Now look at bodog (or bovada whatever), the most conservative Book around. Do you see their line? Do you see how they're not playing the LSU +2 game. Heck no. They have LSU as a pick 'em at -105 right now. So what does that do? Well for one, they're offering you Bama SU at -115, the by far best Bama ML anywhere. Ask yourself, why is the most conservative book offering the best Bama ML? If you like Bama, you're devouring the opportunity to have them SU at -115. Meanwhile, what LSU backer would bet LSU SU @ -105, when you can get 2 points at -110? There's no Book that will let you buy 2 points for 5 cents. A half a point costs 10 cents each. Thus, they're saying with their arms WIDE open, Bama backers welcome, and LSU backers go away.

    Now look at the SBR Sportsbook, another highly conservative Book to say the least. Here they already will give you LSU and 2.5, thus making it even more alluring to those who want points (including the buying and teasing). Though they won't give you +120 on the LSU ML if your astute enough to go that way, you'll get +115. So if you buy a half point here to make it LSU +3, it will cost you -130. Risk 130 to make 100 if you have LSU +3. However, if you put that 130 on the ML @ +115, you'd win like 150 instead of just 100. That's an extra $50 payout for every $130 risked. That is HUGE! And that's what the Books are doing here.

    Bowl Contest at Heritagesports has one person who has picked every bowl game right so far. This person's pick for tonight ... LSU! There are 9 listed as tied for second place, with 6 of those 9 picking LSU.

    Before Backing Bama Better Beware
    Who cares what bodog leans towards?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    The lure to buy or tease the LSU +2 is done in an effort to save what the Book pays out when LSU wins by 2 scores. Some will figure 2 points could be the difference, and will pay -110. Others will be lured to buy a point or so to make it +3 or +3.5, which will cost you like -130 or -140. Others will be lured to the tease, so they can make it +8, which again will cost you more juice. The Book much rather pay out on -110, -130, -140, than paying out on +120. The Book figures if you take Bama -2 or the -140 ML, buy points or tease Bama, isn't going to do you any good when LSU wins by 2 scores. All the Bama bets then lose. It's truly genius when the Book thinks LSU will win by 2 scores, to not give 2 points to Bama, but to make LSU the dog. Only the folks bold enough to take the LSU ML, will have maximized their gains. Though as you can see, many will be lured to taking the points, buying points and teasing in effort to increase their chance of winning. However, they do so by sacrificing winnings, thus reducing what the Book will have to pay out. To repeat, all the Bama bets lose, and if you take LSU and the points, buy points or tease LSU, you'll see that is was pointless to do so and you just reduced your own payout.

    Now look at bodog (or bovada whatever), the most conservative Book around. Do you see their line? Do you see how they're not playing the LSU +2 game. Heck no. They have LSU as a pick 'em at -105 right now. So what does that do? Well for one, they're offering you Bama SU at -115, the by far best Bama ML anywhere. Ask yourself, why is the most conservative book offering the best Bama ML? If you like Bama, you're devouring the opportunity to have them SU at -115. Meanwhile, what LSU backer would bet LSU SU @ -105, when you can get 2 points at -110? There's no Book that will let you buy 2 points for 5 cents. A half a point costs 10 cents each. Thus, they're saying with their arms WIDE open, Bama backers welcome, and LSU backers go away.

    Now look at the SBR Sportsbook, another highly conservative Book to say the least. Here they already will give you LSU and 2.5, thus making it even more alluring to those who want points (including the buying and teasing). Though they won't give you +120 on the LSU ML if your astute enough to go that way, you'll get +115. So if you buy a half point here to make it LSU +3, it will cost you -130. Risk 130 to make 100 if you have LSU +3. However, if you put that 130 on the ML @ +115, you'd win like 150 instead of just 100. That's an extra $50 payout for every $130 risked. That is HUGE! And that's what the Books are doing here.

    Bowl Contest at Heritagesports has one person who has picked every bowl game right so far. This person's pick for tonight ... LSU! There are 9 listed as tied for second place, with 6 of those 9 picking LSU.

    Before Backing Bama Better Beware
    You hired by the books? Great work if so. You probably got a few LSU bettors out of this post sprinkled about the internets.

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    Wow, just wow. Next time someone touts a tripple reverse fake-out conspiracy theory on RLM I ain't listening. It's no guarantee, but when you see movement like this you are foolish to bet against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Jwbama So what you're telling me is the better team lost at home ??? GTFOH lol
    Yes I was telling you that
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    Eddie are you serious about the significant coaching edge ??? Saban has lost two games in a row to Miles, and have you checked Miles bowl record ?? Saban bowl record vs Miles bowl record in the last 6 years is not even comparable!
    Haha Z I am still looking for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldEmHook!! View Post
    yes they do have 13.....jealousy is not attractive

    Sorry man. I just now saw this. I was looking at my betpoints and saw someone gave me a point for a post so I looked it up and kept going in the thread until I found your post.


    If you really believe the tide now have 14 championships then that tells me all I need to know. You are obviously a homer.

    It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with bammers claiming championships they never had any business claiming. Your mythical national championships are well documented. If you would like to see let me know and I will find some links for you. I know youtube has quite a few videos on the subject.
    Last edited by balls2wall; 01-19-12 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balls2wall View Post


    Sorry man. I just now saw this. I was looking at my betpoints and saw someone gave me a point for a post so I looked it up and kept going in the thread until I found your post.


    If you really believe the tide now have 14 championships then that tells me all I need to know. You are obviously a homer.

    It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with bammers claiming championships they never had any business claiming. Your mythical national championships are well documented. If you would like to see let me know and I will find some links for you. I know youtube has quite a few videos on the subject.
    because you tube is official

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Field goal kicker was the only difference last time,what game did you watch??
    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    ONLY difference ???? Alabama offense never reached the red zone! There are 3 phases to the game! 1) offense 2) defense 3) special teams LSU is sound in all 3 phases! Alabama is terrible in Special teams In a game of this magnitude special teams will be the difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    If Alabama would have made all their field goals who would have won?
    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    But they are still only the SECOND best team in the country and should not be favored.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Tomorrow night they will be #1 at approximately a few strokes to midnight.............
    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I am not talking about rankings, I just think LSU is the much better team.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    It is the Super bowl of college football, the winner will be the best team in the nation You are trying to say the team with the best regular season record is the best team regardless....
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Alabama missed four field goals, including Cade Foster's 52-yard attempt after the Tide got the ball first in the extra period. Top Performers Passing: A. McCarron (ALA) - 199 YDS, 1 INT Rushing: T. Richardson (ALA) - 23 CAR, 89 YDS Receiving: T. Richardson (ALA) - 5 REC, 80 YDS I don't know you tell me nah fukk it I'll tell you,the better team lost this game......................................... ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwbama23 View Post
    because you tube is official

    hey man


    I like and respect both of you guys. I honestly don't want to get in a war over it (don't come poison my trees, LOL). I have several bama friends and don't ever talk about it with them because I know it would not go over well and I am not going to push it. I have joked about it in passing and that is about it.


    If anyone just wants to explain 1941 to me and make me change my mind then I can probably let all the rest slide.


    Here is an article on the subject that is not youtube for anyone interested:


    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...-championships


    "The 1941 national championship is a fairy tale. Alabama (9-2) had lost to Mississippi State (SEC champs) and Vanderbilt. The Tide finished ranked 20th in the Associate Press Poll, behind four SEC teams.
    Minnesota (8-0) swamped Duke (9-0) - now coached by Wallace Wade - in the final poll voting with 84.5 to 9.5 first-place votes. (1941 AP Poll) Minnesota swept the consensus picks (AP, CFRA, HAF, NCF). How can you be a national champion when you do not win your conference, were ranked 20th and had two more losses than the consensus champion?
    1941 was the last year anyone claimed a championship who did not win the AP or Coaches Poll. Only Houlgate picked Alabama."
    Last edited by balls2wall; 01-19-12 at 06:22 PM.

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    and the bleacher report is not influenced at all by the N.D logo in the upper left hand corner........ No matter how many you come up with, bottom line Bama is one of the best college football programs in NCAA history...................ROLL TIDE

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldEmHook!! View Post
    and the bleacher report is not influenced at all by the N.D logo in the upper left hand corner........ No matter how many you come up with, bottom line Bama is one of the best college football programs in NCAA history...................ROLL TIDE


    I agree. Bama is without a doubt one of the best programs in NCAAF history. I actually meant to put that in my post and wasn't by any means trying to say otherwise.


    Congrats on the current national championship!!

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