it seem we are lack in communication in this forum. we only post the play and yet put the detail in play. i want build team so we work what hot and what stay away since there so many games. i don't believe there such thing as fix game. it all out there for the research. as tonight i like under by my research for okl game and i did posted. so far so good. what i really want where can we chat agrue what to take not to take. i dun want become a leader post that might be wrong but we are lack team work to beat the book.