1. 10-20-11 03:41 PM #1
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    Best Player Of Michigan St Suspended vs Wisconsin

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ganst-gholston

    Gholston threw a punch and he is out. Wisconsin should have an easy time now running over that overrated defense.
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  2. 10-20-11 03:43 PM #2
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    sharp post paver
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  3. 10-20-11 03:52 PM #3
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    best player? hardly....tell me if the QB was out, that would be a game changer
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  4. 10-20-11 03:57 PM #4
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    Gholston had a hand full of dirty plays in that game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    best player? hardly....tell me if the QB was out, that would be a game changer
    You obviously know nothing about the Big Ten. How did the Illini do vs OSU last week Mr?
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  6. 10-20-11 04:00 PM #6
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    Gholston is a bitch. That being said line moved 2 cents already.

    Their defense is far from overrated. Best defense in the Big 10 that is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gholston is a bitch. That being said line moved 2 cents already.

    Their defense is far from overrated. Best defense in the Big 10 that is for sure.
    They gave up 31 points to ND and Wisconsin is much better. Can they hold Wisconsin below 35 points? I doubt it.
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  8. 10-20-11 04:06 PM #8
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    he's the 8th leading tackler on the defense.

    that said, it should have been 2 games.
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    Wisconsin 30 + points in this one. MSU will get in the low 20s maybe
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  10. 10-20-11 04:31 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You obviously know nothing about the Big Ten. How did the Illini do vs OSU last week Mr?
    i lost one yeah, but i know plenty about the big ten and this one player isn't all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gholston is a bitch. That being said line moved 2 cents already.

    Their defense is far from overrated. Best defense in the Big 10 that is for sure.
    How so?
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    wasn't the line -9 or -9.5 a couple days ago?

    now i see it at 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by chemicalbrother View Post
    he's the 8th leading tackler on the defense.

    that said, it should have been 2 games.
    Did you watch the whole play?

    The Michigan guy was hardly innocent in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    wasn't the line -9 or -9.5 a couple days ago?

    now i see it at 7
    Well, for starters, Gholston is hardly MSU's "best player."
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  15. 10-20-11 04:38 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    wasn't the line -9 or -9.5 a couple days ago? now i see it at 7
    I think so. My roommate was telling me he had it at bodog at -9 a few days back. They voided his bet though for some reason. Line opened at 6.5 or some shit. Strange moves so far.

    I think Wisky covers and wins by 17+ though.
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    Wouldn't have a huge impact on the final score anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Did you watch the whole play?

    The Michigan guy was hardly innocent in the matter.


    It wasn't just the punch....

    Late hit, combined with him trying to break Denard's neck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post


    It wasn't just the punch....

    Late hit, combined with him trying to break Denard's neck...

    Jeezus, it's football Deuce -- not tapdancing.

    Do you know how many players you could isolate as being "bitches" for shit like this?

    Is Suh a "bitch"?
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    pavy this is a epic fail

    not the best player on MSU

    god u fuking suck at picking games and judging best players
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetrickpony View Post
    pavy this is a epic fail

    not the best player on MSU

    god u fuking suck at picking games and judging best players
    A lot of people see the name and the size and automatically assume he's their best defender.

    Gholston might be very good someday, but he has a long way to go.
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  21. 10-20-11 04:47 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Well, for starters, Gholston is hardly MSU's "best player."
    exactly
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  22. 10-20-11 04:49 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Jeezus, it's football Deuce -- not tapdancing. Do you know how many players you could isolate as being "bitches" for shit like this? Is Suh a "bitch"?
    No, Suh, plays to the whistle. Gholston plays after the whistle. Big difference.
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  23. 10-20-11 04:50 PM #23
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    I am tired of people saying there defense isn't good and then saying look at the notre dame game. They obviously are not #1 like there stats indicate but its typical for a team to get annihilated on the road almost every year. LSU defense suck cuz they gave up a ton of yards to WVU?
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  24. 10-20-11 04:51 PM #24
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    That vid looked pretty dirty.

    I understand the late hit, but you land on the guy then decide it'd be fun to snap his head around.

    Pick 1 or the other, don't do them both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, Suh, plays to the whistle. Gholston plays after the whistle. Big difference.
    Again, do you know how many times shit like this happens in every game?

    Football isn't for pussies, and yes, sometimes it gets dirty and ugly. And yes, Suh goes after the whistle sometimes. Shit happens. These guys are all maniacs; that's part of what makes it so entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    That vid looked pretty dirty.

    I understand the late hit, but you land on the guy then decide it'd be fun to snap his head around.

    Pick 1 or the other, don't do them both.
    I wouldn't argue against it being "dirty," but I'd say the same thing I said to Deuce -- shit happens. At least he didn't punch him in the balls.

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  26. 10-20-11 05:01 PM #26
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    Anyone who knows anything about Michigan State, or the Big Ten, knows that Gholston is not the best player on the defensive side of the ball for Sparty, let alone the best player on the team. Jerel Worthy is head and shoulders the best defensive player on MSU; he's one of the best linemen in the country.
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  27. 10-20-11 05:09 PM #27
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    so 3 suspensions for LSU (2 best players) doesnt mean anything to idiot paver, but now 1 suspension means the world

    also an idiot like paver only sees 31 points to ND, but doesnt see the 275 yards when ND averages 467
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean1981 View Post
    Jerel Worthy is head and shoulders the best defensive player on MSU; he's one of the best linemen in the country.
    This.

    And how about that Bullough kid at LB? He's going to be a good one.

    Can't wait to see the Lawrence Thomas cat at LB alongside him.

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  29. 10-20-11 05:47 PM #29
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    Yeah, Best player .
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