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    Alabama -5.5

    Followed by a million people on here talking about value and "taking the points", and saying "No WAY LSU loses by more than 3", resulting in an LSU frenzy that will deflate the line temporarily, to be followed by Alabama money coming in throughout the week, driving the line back up to near where it opens for gameday, along with a lot of Alabama ML action from those scared to lay the points.

    Then on gameday, the Tide will win by 10+ making the whole exercise pointless. LSU enjoys a pretty big divide between them and most of their competition, however Alabama is several steps above LSU here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Seer View Post
    November 5, 2011
    Texas A&M
    Oklahoma -7.5
    LSU
    Alabama -9
    No way should the line be this high
    South Carolina
    Arkansas -4
    No, -9 is exactly where it should be if you only consider the two teams and not the other factors related to the market itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    No, -9 is exactly where it should be if you only consider the two teams and not the other factors related to the market itself.
    those comments werent mine, it was the author's when the lines were posted in June

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.F.Kasooff View Post
    Seer, dont be such a dummy Big difference in a future bet & game week line. You arent dealing with high school kids here, you have them thinking you are a god. We know better!
    do u have trouble reading, i said the linesmakers make adjustments throughout the year and you can bet these games every week all year long. I am not some god lol, i just pay attention and have been around.

    here it is currently
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    540
    LSU
    OFF

    +5

    oOFF



    Alabama
    OFF

    -5

    uOFF

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Seer View Post
    those comments werent mine, it was the author's when the lines were posted in June
    Ah. Apologies.

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    BTW in case you are wondering what all the other Games of the year are currently, here they are, and YES you can bet on them currently as they have been adjusted week to week. They may take them down at the beginning of the week and put them back up after the games that week are played but if you click on the line you can see how they have been moved from week to week. Not every book has them but they are out there.



    NCAA Games of the Year
    10/20/2011


    Betting Trends
    Date/ Time # Proposition Money Line Total Status Score Money Side Total
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/20/11
    12:00 PM
    410 UCLA
    Arizona
    OFF +4.5/-110
    -4.5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 22%
    78%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/21/11
    12:00 PM
    420 West Virginia
    Syracuse
    OFF -10/-110
    +10/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/22/11
    12:00 PM
    430 Auburn
    LSU
    OFF +18/-110
    -18/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 85%
    15%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/22/11
    12:00 PM
    435 Wisconsin
    Michigan St
    OFF -8.5/-110
    +8.5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 54%
    46%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/22/11
    12:00 PM
    440 USC
    Notre Dame
    OFF +8.5/-110
    -8.5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 62%
    38%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/22/11
    12:00 PM
    445 Arkansas
    Ole Miss
    OFF -14/-110
    +14/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/22/11
    12:00 PM
    450 Tennessee
    Alabama
    OFF +21/-110
    -21/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 77%
    23%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/27/11
    12:00 PM
    460 Virginia
    Miami FL
    OFF +14/-110
    -14/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 83%
    17%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year (Arlington TX)
    10/28/11
    12:00 PM
    470 BYU
    TCU
    OFF +12/-110
    -12/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 42%
    58%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year (Jacksonville FL)
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    480 Georgia
    Florida
    OFF +3.5/-110
    -3.5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 17%
    83%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    485 South Carolina
    Tennessee
    OFF -1/-110
    +1/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 54%
    46%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    490 Wisconsin
    Ohio St
    OFF -11/-110
    +11/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 69%
    31%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    495 Stanford
    USC
    OFF -9.5/-110
    +9.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 82%
    18%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    500 Colorado St
    UNLV
    OFF -4/-110
    +4/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 98%
    2%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    10/29/11
    12:00 PM
    505 SMU
    Tulsa
    OFF +2.5/-110
    -2.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 21%
    79%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/03/11
    12:00 PM
    515 Florida St
    Boston College
    OFF -17/-110
    +17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 30%
    70%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/04/11
    12:00 PM
    525 Central Michigan
    Kent St
    OFF -3/-110
    +3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/04/11
    12:00 PM
    530 USC
    Colorado
    OFF -11/-110
    +11/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 80%
    20%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    540 LSU
    Alabama
    OFF +5/-110
    -5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 33%
    67%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    545 South Carolina
    Arkansas
    OFF +6.5/-110
    -6.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 2%
    98%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    550 Texas A&M
    Oklahoma
    OFF +16/-110
    -16/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 75%
    25%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    555 North Carolina
    North Carolina St
    OFF -4.5/-110
    +4.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 76%
    24%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    560 Michigan
    Iowa
    OFF -1/-110
    +1/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 57%
    43%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/05/11
    12:00 PM
    565 Army
    Air Force
    OFF +15/-110
    -15/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF OFF OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/10/11
    12:00 PM
    575 Virginia Tech
    Georgia Tech
    OFF -1.5/-110
    +1.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 8%
    92%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/11/11
    12:00 PM
    585 South Florida
    Syracuse
    OFF -6/-110
    +6/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    595 Alabama
    Mississippi St
    OFF -17/-110
    +17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 74%
    26%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    600 Florida
    South Carolina
    OFF OFF OFF Closed
    OFF 25%
    75%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    605 Nebraska
    Penn St
    OFF +1/-110
    -1/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 85%
    15%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    610 Michigan
    Illinois
    OFF OFF OFF Open
    OFF 73%
    27%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    615 Texas
    Missouri
    OFF +2.5/-110
    -2.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 24%
    76%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    620 Miami FL
    Florida St
    OFF +7.5/-110
    -7.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 73%
    27%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    625 Oregon
    Stanford
    OFF +1.5/-110
    -1.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 64%
    36%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    630 TCU
    Boise St
    OFF +17/-110
    -17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 39%
    61%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    635 Hawaii
    Nevada
    OFF +7/-110
    -7/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 0%
    100%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/12/11
    12:00 PM
    640 Michigan St
    Iowa
    OFF -3/-110
    +3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 66%
    34%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/17/11
    12:00 PM
    650 North Carolina
    Virginia Tech
    OFF +10/-110
    -10/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 85%
    15%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    660 Nebraska
    Michigan
    OFF +2/-110
    -2/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 77%
    23%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    665 USC
    Oregon
    OFF +17/-110
    -17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 0%
    100%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    670 California
    Stanford
    OFF +23.5/-110
    -23.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 81%
    19%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    675 Arizona
    Arizona St
    OFF +13/-110
    -13/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 96%
    4%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    680 Boise St
    San Diego St
    OFF -18/-110
    +18/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 48%
    52%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    685 Penn St
    Ohio St
    OFF +3/-110
    -3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 22%
    78%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    690 Wisconsin
    Illinois
    OFF -12.5/-110
    +12.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 95%
    5%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/19/11
    12:00 PM
    695 SMU
    Houston
    OFF +3/-110
    -3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 18%
    82%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/24/11
    12:00 PM
    705 Texas
    Texas A&M
    OFF +7.5/-110
    -7.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 10%
    90%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    715 Arkansas
    LSU
    OFF +10/-110
    -10/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 72%
    28%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    720 Iowa
    Nebraska
    OFF +9.5/-110
    -9.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    725 Pittsburgh
    West Virginia
    OFF +10/-110
    -10/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 48%
    52%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    730 Boston College
    Miami FL
    OFF +18/-110
    -18/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 15%
    85%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    735 California
    Arizona St
    OFF +11/-110
    -11/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 17%
    83%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/25/11
    12:00 PM
    740 Colorado
    Utah
    OFF +17/-110
    -17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    750 Alabama
    Auburn
    OFF -18/-110
    +18/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 36%
    64%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    755 Ole Miss
    Mississippi St
    OFF +14/-110
    -14/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 25%
    75%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    760 Georgia
    Georgia Tech
    OFF -3/-110
    +3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 36%
    64%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    765 Clemson
    South Carolina
    OFF +3/-110
    -3/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 97%
    3%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    770 Florida St
    Florida
    OFF +5/-110
    -5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 44%
    56%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    775 Ohio St
    Michigan
    OFF +4/-110
    -4/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 80%
    20%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    780 Penn St
    Wisconsin
    OFF +17/-110
    -17/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 47%
    53%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    785 Illinois
    Minnesota
    OFF -15.5/-110
    +15.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 65%
    35%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    790 Virginia Tech
    Virginia
    OFF -11/-110
    +11/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 100%
    0%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    795 Oregon St
    Oregon
    OFF +28.5/-110
    -28.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 0%
    100%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    800 Notre Dame
    Stanford
    OFF +6.5/-110
    -6.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 9%
    91%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year (QWEST Field)
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    805 Washington St
    Washington
    OFF +9.5/-110
    -9.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 21%
    79%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    11/26/11
    12:00 PM
    810 UCLA
    USC
    OFF +10.5/-110
    -10.5/-110
    OFF Closed
    OFF 45%
    55%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    12/01/11
    12:00 PM
    820 West Virginia
    South Florida
    OFF -3.5/-110
    +3.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 81%
    19%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    12/03/11
    12:00 PM
    830 Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    OFF -4.5/-110
    +4.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 47%
    53%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    12/03/11
    12:00 PM
    835 BYU
    Hawaii
    OFF +4.5/-110
    -4.5/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF OFF OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year
    12/03/11
    12:00 PM
    840 Texas
    Baylor
    OFF OFF OFF Open
    OFF 47%
    53%
    OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year (GAME MUST BE PLAYED WITHIN 8 DAYS OF SCHEDULED/MUST BE PLAYED AT DESIGNATED SITE)
    12/10/11
    12:00 PM
    1 Games of the Year
    Games of the Year
    OFF OFF OFF Open
    OFF OFF OFF
    2011 NCAA Football Games of the Year (Landover MD)
    12/10/11
    12:00 PM
    850 Navy
    Army
    OFF -7/-110
    +7/-110
    OFF Open
    OFF 86%
    14%
    OFF

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    anyone else just think this is a no play?

    these are juggernaut teams, equally matched. Might be a good game just to pass on and look elsewhere.

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    i think bama has a better offense and they are at home

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    Bama has a better offense ?!?!?!?!?!?

    Are you serious ?!??!?

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    Best play is to not bet it at all and just enjoy watching a great football game loaded with amazing talent.

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    Stanford currently -1.5 at home to Oregon!? Bearing in mind that I don't live in Vegas (or even in the USA) is there anywhere I can bet this? It might be time to remortgage the house! Stanford by 10+

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzlies1 View Post
    Stanford currently -1.5 at home to Oregon!? Bearing in mind that I don't live in Vegas (or even in the USA) is there anywhere I can bet this? It might be time to remortgage the house! Stanford by 10+
    I'll take Oregon...could I get +3???

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    If you gave me Stanford -3 @ +100 I'd take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtcook21 View Post
    Bama best team in the country. Can beat anyone by 2 TDs except Wiscy. Only beat them by 1 TD.
    Wiscy is NOT better than LSU (at full strength without the current suspensions). LSU and Bama are clearly the two best teams and this game will be the National Championship. IF the LSU suspensions are lifted before this game, I think line opens Alabama -3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuus View Post
    anyone else just think this is a no play?

    these are juggernaut teams, equally matched. Might be a good game just to pass on and look elsewhere.
    Actually, that is exactly why LSU at +3.5 or more is a great play.

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    LT I personally know some of the players at LSU and one player told me this is just a 1 game suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzlies1 View Post
    If you gave me Stanford -3 @ +100 I'd take it.
    OK. I'll give you Stanford -3 +100. Now the only problem is how will you transfer your stake if you are a non Pro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Bama minus 4.5
    Game is a stone cold pick on a neutral field, give Bam 4.5 home field points.
    LSU at Alabama
    Sat 11/5 10853 LSU +4½ -110 +160
    8:00PM 10854 Alabama -4½ -110 -185

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    Lsu +6 cash it!!!! Im on lsu all day!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    OK. I'll give you Stanford -3 +100. Now the only problem is how will you transfer your stake if you are a non Pro?

    Ill take Stanford -3 +100 !!!!

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    Its only 1 game suspension and LSU will mop the Tide.. LSU wins by 10+

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    Down to 4 now

    LSU at Alabama
    Sat 11/5 10853 LSU +4 -110 +160
    8:00PM 10854 Alabama -4 -110 -185

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