[FutureShock]

Anybody local going to jump in on these?

[BigdaddyQH]

Goloden Nugget opening lines:

Week1

Tulsa
Oklahoma 21

LSU
Oregon 3

Boise St 6
Georgia

Miami OH
Missouri 20.5

SMU
Texas A&M 17

Miami Fla 3.5
Maryland

Week 2

Missouri
Arizona State 3

Alabama 9
Penn State

Mississippi State
Auburn 3.5

South Carolina 3
Georgia

Notre Dame
Michigan 2

BYU
Texas 7.5

Utah
USC 8

TCU 6.5
Air Force

Week 3

LSU
Mississippi State 1

Oklahoma 3.5
Florida State

Oklahoma State 8
Tulsa

Michigan State
Notre Dame 6

West Virginia 3
Maryland

Utah
BYU 2.5

Tennessee
Florida 13.5

Auburn
Clemson 1

Week 4

Missouri
Oklahoma 13

Arkansas
Alabama 11

LSU 4
West Virginia

Tulsa
Boise State 24

Oklahoma State
Texas A&M 6

Notre Dame 4
Pittsburgh

USC
Arizona State 3

San Diego State
Michigan 8

Florida State7
Clemson

Week 5

SMU
TCU 12

Alabama 6
Florida

Arkansas
Texas A&M 2.5

Auburn
South Carolina 7.5

Nebraska
Wisconsin 2.5

Mississippi State
Georgia 3.5

Week 6

Oklahoma 8
Texas

Florlda
LSU 5.5

Auburn
Arkansas 7.5

Miami Fla
Virginia Tech 7

Arizona State 2
Utah

Connecticut
West Virginia 13.5

Air Force
Notre Dame 10

Georgia 3.5
Tennessee

Michigan 4
Northwestern

TCU 6.5
San Diego State

Week 7

San Diego State
Air Force 3

Arizona State
Oregon 11

Oklahoma State
Texas 3

Florida 1
Auburn

Michigan
Michigan State 3.5

South Carolina 1.5
Mississippi State

Utah
Pittsburgh 4

LSU 9.5
Tennessee

Week 8

Auburn
LSU 9.5

Oklahoma State
Missouri 2.5

Wisconsin
Michigan State 1

USC
Notre Dame 4

Maryland
Florida State 16

Air Force
Boise State 20

Tennessee
Alabama 21

Penn State Even
Northwestern

Week 9

Connecticut
Pittsburgh 10

BYU
TCU 7

Stanford 2
USC

Missouri
Texas A&M 7.5

North Carolina State
Florida State 14.5

Michigan State
Nebraska 7.5

Georgia
Florida 3

South Carolina 10.5
Tennessee

Week 10

Texas A&M
Oklahoma 7.5

LSU
Alabama 9

South Carolina
Arkansas 4

Northwestern
Nebraska 12

Week 11

Alabama 7
Mississippi State

Oregon 1
Stanford

TCU
Boise State 13.5

Miami Fla
Florida State 7.5

Auburn
Georgia 4.5

Florida
South Carolina 6

Nebraska 1
Penn State

Texas
Missouri 2

Notre Dame 7.5
Maryland

Tennessee
Arkansas 14

Week 12

USC
Oregon 11

Mississippi State
Arkansas 9

Nebraska 1
Michigan

Boise State 17.5
San Diego State

California
Stanford 12

Week 13

Texas
Texas A&M 7

Pittsburgh
West Virginia 6


Arkansas
LSU 4.5

Alabama 8
Auburn

Notre Dame
Stanford 6.5

Florida State
Florida 1

Penn State
Wisconsin 7

Maryland
North Carolina State 6.5

Michigan State 3.5
Northwestern

Georgia 6.5
Georgia Tech

Mississippi
Mississippi State 12

Oregon State
Oregon 14

UCLA
USC 6.5

Clemson
South Carolina 12

Week 14

Oklahoma 2
Oklahoma State

[MoneyLineDawg]

WOW......South Carolina getting tons of respect:

-3 @ Georgia , -1.5 @ MS State , +4 @ Arkansas....... -7.5 vs. Auburn, -6 vs. Florida , -10.5 vs. Tennessee, -12 vs. Clemson

Easily the favorites to win the SEC East as I have been saying all off-season......seems like Vegas agrees with me going into the season

[iwantcougars]

awesome some nice lines, but i guess bigdaddy, you broke your promise on not betting usc, with the +4 @ notre dame

[Jasonal_98]

Never thought I would live to see the day that South Carolina would be a 10.5 pt favorite at Rocky Top.

[Jasonal_98]

FWIW, my favorite line up there is FSU -7 at Clemson. Just don't see what the Tigers have this year.

[The DiB]

WOW......South Carolina getting tons of respect:

-3 @ Georgia , -1.5 @ MS State , +4 @ Arkansas....... -7.5 vs. Auburn, -6 vs. Florida , -10.5 vs. Tennessee, -12 vs. Clemson

Easily the favorites to win the SEC East as I have been saying all off-season......seems like Vegas agrees with me going into the season

Yet they're +250 to win the east, behind Georgia and Florida

[daneblazer]

I think you can fade every one of those SC lines and make some good money

[daneblazer]

LSU
Mississippi State 1

Can we actually bet these? I'd pound LSU into the ground here.

[BigdaddyQH]

You have to go to the golden Nugget in Vegas to wager on these lines. I did not wager on USC, one way or the other. Some of my friends did. They faded USC -8 against Utah, took USC +3 at Arizona State, and took USC -6.5 against UCLA. What we did do was to load up on Boise State, when the line dropped all the way to 1.5 against Georgia. We expect that line to end up aroound 3 to 3.5, and think that this may be a good middle possibility.

[daneblazer]

Yet they're +250 to win the east, behind Georgia and Florida

Depends on where you look. I've also seen UF and UGA as the favorite to win the east. UGA has the schedule, UF's schedule is ridiculous. South Carolina is well, South Carolina. I think the winner of UGA/SC comes away with the east. UF's SEC schedule is just too brutal.

[Inkwell77]

I need to do some research on this Missouri team, some of these lines seem crazy (-2 versus Texas!)
Is Missouri as good as USC? Both teams are +3 on the road at ASU.

LSU -4 versus West Virginia?
Penn St vs Northwestern is a pickem?

This is awesome!

[iwantcougars]

i doubt mizzou O will be as good as usc O

[Grits n' Gravy]

I know a lot of people who maxed out on Georgia and LSU at the opening numbers for week 1.

[BigdaddyQH]

This is what people at the Nugget depend on. People believeing everything they read.

[bornselling]

LSU
Oregon 3

[HoulihansTX]

Oklahoma 3.5
Florida State
--- Take Florida St.. Big time revenge spot for FSU. They had no chance last year, with new coaches @ all major positions. Most importantly FSU's defense was just learning their new zone defense, after 25 years of man to man principles.

More importantly, Oklahoma loses on the road. That is just what they do. The QB will throw INT, and Bob Stoops will be out-coached. Oklahoma @ home is a whole different animal, but on the road they are beatable.

LSU 4
West Virginia
--- Take WVU.


Auburn
Clemson 1
--- Revenge spot, and Auburn will be a total shell of themselves this year. Auburn had more live than a cat last year. They engineered many magical 4 qtr comebacks with that unstoppable offense. That will not be a problem this year. Clemsons coach has no idea what he is doing, but he has more talent @ Clemson.



San Diego State
Michigan 8
--- Classic spot, were you bet on the underdog, that is playing against their former coach. SEE: WVU vs Marshall from last year.

Alabama 6
Florida
--- Florida has talent. Not as much as Alabama, but not far away. Florida has assembled a roster of coaches that can rival any program in the country. Expected all of the talent, in Gainseville, to be exploited to its fullest. Revenge spot also. Then Florida is a home Dog. GTFO


Oklahoma 8
Texas
---- Too many points period.

FWIW, my favorite line up there is FSU -7 at Clemson. Just don't see what the Tigers have this year.

Clemson is loaded, like always. Their problem is they have never had an elite coach to go with the talent. The clown they have as coach now, is God's gift to recruiting. He was promoted from within, after winning the award for recruiter of the year about three years ago.

[BigdaddyQH]

I do not like Clemson at all this season. Their H.C. is very questionable. They will be depending on a new QB. They lose 5 starters on defense, all key players. They get Florida State at home the week after the Auburn game, then a game at Va. Tech after that. While Auburn loses a ton of talent, I would not count them out against Clemson. You have a battle of teams that will finish 4th or 5th in their respective Divisions. I would not touch this game.

I also would not take West Virginia over LSU. West Virginia returns only 4 starrters on defense. Remember, we are talking about a Big East team here. If LSU loses to this group, they will be laughed out of the SEC.

I already took Florida State +3.5, hoping to get a middle there, but satisfied that I got over 3 points. OU is not the best road team around.

San Diego State loses 6 starters om defense, and goes up against their old head coach, who walks into a "win or else" situation at Michigan. Again, another game that I would not touch. Check the total on this game when it comes out.

Florida had better be 4-0 going into the Alabama game, or their season is lost. They have talent, but no experience and a new coaching staff. They simply play Alabama too early in the season to be much of a threat here. Now if you want a great game to fade Florida, fade them against Kentucky, the week before the Alabama game. Florida's first away game sandwiched in between home games against Tennessee and Alabama.

[cant call it]

Utah
Pittsburgh 4
Utah ML

LSU
Alabama 9
Lsu + points

Florida
South Carolina 6
UF ML

Texas
Texas A&M 7
UT ML

Florida State
Florida 1
FSU ML

[daneblazer]

Then Florida is a home Dog. GTFO

And a touchdown underdog to boot. It's not like Alabama didn't lose a ton of talent too. Florida will be a bit of a mystery going into the season. They have the talent, they have a brutal schedule, we just don't know what we'll get from them. I think there is a lot of value here though. They'll have their ups and down and this could very well be an up. It's lines like this that make me want to fly out to Vegas so I can go to the Golden Nugget.

[daneblazer]

If you fade South Carolina and Miss St and tail Texas with these lines, you'll do alright for yourself.

[MoneyLineDawg]

If you fade South Carolina and Miss St and tail Texas with these lines, you'll do alright for yourself.

Just curious....why are you so down on SC? They return almost everyone (everyone important) and this seems to be "the year" for them

They will have the monster freshman DE Jadaveon Clowney to go with an already great pass rush on D....Talent and experience all over the defense

Arguably the best WR and RB in the country (If not,top 2-3 at each position)

They have been pretty inconsistent lately, but on paper, they are arguably a top 2-3 SEC team going into this season,with a darkhorse shot at the National Championship (Will be a top 10 team going into the year)

They absolutely thrashed Alabama, Tennessee, Clemson, and Florida last season....beat Georgia pretty easily, and played toe to toe with Auburn at Auburn.

There's a reason why South Carolina is double digit favorites against Tennessee and Clemson, favored @ Georgia for the first time in forever, favored by 6 against Florida, etc

There's a reason why Marcus Lattimore is only +500 to win the Heisman (which always goes to a top team)

You can't just say because they are South Carolina.....every year is a new year,and Spurrier who is always blunt, thinks this team has what it takes to make a big run.

Fade SC at your own risk.

[Vin_vermillion]

There you guys go. Big daddy wanted a 100 games picked. Why not make it a contest and pick these 100 games for the season? Don't know if you can get the mods to pin it but it would be a fun test of who can hit what %. I would still carry my own personal thread of games I liked of course, but this would be a fun side thing to be involved in.

[Vin_vermillion]

Actually I wouldn't pin it. I would just do a thread each week and have Someone moderate all the picks. Then start a new thread the next week and so on.

[Vin_vermillion]

From the odds, I think the books don't expect either PSU or michigan to be very good this season. They seem to like my Irish a lot though.

[cant call it]

I am down for a challenge on these games of the year,

[BigdaddyQH]

I have no idea how it could be run.

[daneblazer]

You can't just say because they are South Carolina.....every year is a new year,and Spurrier who is always blunt, thinks this team has what it takes to make a big run.

Fade SC at your own risk.

I can absolutely say because they are South Carolina. They always trip up several times along the way. Their Quarterback is a bad decision making head case and that's if he makes it to the beginning of the season. Every big game they played last year outside of Florida they were drilled. I don't think they're going to suck, but they are giving too many points in these big games.

edit: I forgot about Alabama, but then they went and laid a huge egg the next week. Anyways...too many points.

[MoneyLineDawg]

I can absolutely say because they are South Carolina. They always trip up several times along the way. Their Quarterback is a bad decision making head case and that's if he makes it to the beginning of the season. Every big game they played last year outside of Florida they were drilled. I don't think they're going to suck, but they are giving too many points in these big games.

edit: I forgot about Alabama, but then they went and laid a huge egg the next week. Anyways...too many points.

Wrong.

Big games they had: Beat Georgia 17-6, Beat Alabama 35-21, Crushed Florida, Crushed Clemson, Were beating Auburn all game until they imploded in the 4th quarter and Cam Newton took over

The only "big game" they got drilled in was the SEC Championship......They obviously laid an egg there.

Like I said before, SC would never be given this much respect going into the season unless there was a reason for it......Why the hell is SC favored @ Georgia this season? Use your brain......

[BigdaddyQH]

Here are the latest lines. Check out some of the changes. Some are huge:

Week 1
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
TULSA OKLAHOMA OKLAHOMA -21 bet down to -20
LSU OREGON OREGON -3 bet down to -2 (Neutral Game - Dallas)
BOISE STATE GEORGIA BOISE STATE -6 bet down to -1.5
MIAMI-OHIO MISSOURI MISSOURI -20.5
SMU TEXAS A&M TEXAS A&M -17 bet down to -16
MIAMI-FLA MARYLAND MIAMI-FLA -3.5

Week 2
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
MISSOURI ARIZONA STATE ARIZONA STATE -3 bet up to -4
ALABAMA PENN STATE ALABAMA -9
MISSISSIPPI STATE AUBURN -3.5 MISSISSIPPI STATE bet to -1
SOUTH CAROLINA GEORGIA SOUTH CAROLINA -3 bet down to -2.5
NOTRE DAME MICHIGAN -2 NOTRE DAME bet to -3
BYU TEXAS -7.5 TEXAS -7.5
UTAH USC USC -8
TCU AIR FORCE TCU -6.5 bet down to -1.5

Week 3
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
LSU MISSISSIPPI STATE LSU bet +1 to -3
OKLAHOMA FLORIDA STATE OKLAHOMA -3.5
OKLAHOMA STATE TULSA OKLAHOMA STATE -8
MICHIGAN STATE NOTRE DAME NOTRE DAME -6
WEST VIRGINIA MARYLAND WEST VIRGINIA -3 bet up to -4
UTAH BYU -2.5 BYU -2.5 bet up to -5
TENNESSEE FLORIDA FLORIDA -13.5 bet down to -11.5
AUBURN CLEMSON CLEMSON -1 bet up to -6

Week 4
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
MISSOURI OKLAHOMA OKLAHOMA -13 bet up to -14
ARKANSAS ALABAMA ALABAMA -11
LSU WEST VIRGINIA LSU -4 bet up to -4.5
TULSA BOISE STATE BOISE STATE -24 bet down to -22
OKLAHOMA STATE TEXAS A&M TEXAS A&M -6
NOTRE DAME PITTSBURGH NOTRE DAME -4 bet up to -5
USC ARIZONA STATE ARIZONA STATE -3
SAN DIEGO STATE MICHIGAN MICHIGAN -8 bet up to -9
FLORIDA STATE CLEMSON FLORIDA STATE -7 bet down to -5.5

Week 5
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
SMU TCU TCU -12 bet down to -11
ALABAMA FLORIDA ALABAMA -6
ARKANSAS ALABAMA ALABAMA -6
AUBURN SOUTH CAROLINA SOUTH CAROLINA -7.5 bet up to -9.5
NEBRASKA WISCONSIN WISCONSIN -2.5 bet up to -3
MISSISSIPPI STATE GEORGIA GEORGIA -3.5 bet up to -5.5

Week 6
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
OKLAHOMA TEXAS OKLAHOMA -8 bet down to -7.5
FLORIDA LSU LSU -5.5 bet up to -7.5
AUBURN ARKANSAS ARKANSAS -7.5 bet up to -9
MIAMI-FLA VIRGINIA TECH VIRGINIA TECH -7 bet down to -6
ARIZONA STATE UTAH ARIZONA STATE -2
CONNECTICUT WEST VIRGINIA WEST VIRGINIA -13.5 bet down to -12.5
AIR FORCE NOTRE DAME NOTRE DAME -10 bet up to -11
GEORGIA TENNESSEE GEORGIA -3.5
MICHIGAN NORTHWESTERN MICHIGAN -4 bet down to PK
TCU SAN DIEGO STATE TCU -6.5 bet down to -5.5

Week 7
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
SAN DIEGO STATE AIR FORCE AIR FORCE -3 bet up to -4
ARIZONA STATE OREGON OREGON -11
OKLAHOMA STATE TEXAS TEXAS -3
FLORIDA AUBURN FLORIDA -1 bet up to -3
MICHIGAN MICHIGAN STATE MICHIGAN STATE -3.5 bet up to -7
SOUTH CAROLINA MISSISSIPPI STATE SOUTH CAROLINA -1.5
UTAH PITTSBURGH PITTSBURGH -4 bet up to -6
LSU TENNESSEE LSU -9.5 bet down to -8.5

Week 8
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
AUBURN LSU LSU -9.5 bet up to -11
OKLAHOMA STATE MISSOURI MISSOURI -2.5
WISCONSIN MICHIGAN STATE MICHIGAN STATE -1
USC NOTRE DAME NOTRE DAME -4 bet up to -5
MARYLAND FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE -16
AIR FORCE BOISE STATE BOISE STATE -20
TENNESSEE ALABAMA ALABAMA -21 bet down to -19
PENN STATE NORTHWESTERN PENN STATE pk

Week 9
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
CONNECTICUT PITTSBURGH PITTSBURGH -10
BYU TCU TCU -7 bet down to -3.5
STANFORD USC STANFORD -2
MISSOURI TEXAS A&M TEXAS A&M -7.5
NORTH CAROLINA STATE FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE -14.5
MICHIGAN STATE NEBRASKA NEBRASKA -7.5
GEORGIA FLORIDA GEORGIA +3 bet to -1
SOUTH CAROLINA TENNESSEE SOUTH CAROLINA -10.5 bet down to -7.5

Week 10
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
TEXAS A&M OKLAHOMA OKLAHOMA -7.5
LSU ALABAMA ALABAMA -9
SOUTH CAROLINA ARKANSAS ARKANSAS -4
NORTHWESTERN NEBRASKA NEBRASKA -12

Week 11
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
ALABAMA MISSISSIPPI STATE ALABAMA -7 bet up to -8
OREGON STANFORD OREGON -1
TCU BOISE STATE BOISE STATE -13.5 bet up to -14.5
MIAMI-FLA FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE -7.5
AUBURN GEORGIA GEORGIA -4.5 bet up to -9
FLORIDA SOUTH CAROLINA SOUTH CAROLINA -6
NEBRASKA PENN STATE NEBRASKA -1
TEXAS MISSOURI MISSOURI -2
NOTRE DAME MARYLAND NOTRE DAME -7.5 bet up to -8.5
TENNESSEE ARKANSAS ARKANSAS -14 bet down to -13

Week 12
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
USC OREGON OREGON -11
MISSISSIPPI STATE ARKANSAS ARKANSAS -9
NEBRASKA MICHIGAN NEBRASKA -1 bet up to -3
BOISE ST SAN DIEGO STATE BOISE ST -17.5
CALIFORNIA STANFORD STANFORD -12

Week 13
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
TEXAS TEXAS A&M TEXAS A&M -7
PITTSBURGH WEST VIRGINIA WEST VIRGINIA -6 bet down to -4
ARKANSAS LSU LSU -4.5
ALABAMA AUBURN ALABAMA -8 bet up to -12
NOTRE DAME STANFORD STANFORD -6.5 bet down to -4.5
FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA FLORIDA -1
PENN STATE WISCONSIN WISCONSIN -7 bet down to -6
MARYLAND NORTH CAROLINA STATE NORTH CAROLINA STATE -6.5
MICHIGAN STATE NORTHWESTERN MICHIGAN STATE -3.5 bet down to -2.5
GEORGIA GEORGIA TECH GEORGIA -6.5
MISSISSIPPI MISSISSIPPI STATE MISSISSIPPI STATE -12 bet down to -10
CLEMSON SOUTH CAROLINA SOUTH CAROLINA -12 bet down to -11
OREGON STATE OREGON OREGON -14
UCLA USC USC -6.5 bet up to -7.5

Week 14
Away Home Odds/Line Movements
OKLAHOMA OKLAHOMA STATE OKLAHOMA -2

[RPP]

How in the world is Notre Dame a 2 point dog to beat Michigan? They will blow them out.

[BigdaddyQH]

How in the world is Notre Dame a 2 point dog to beat Michigan? They will blow them out.

You are not reading the lines correctly. They were a 2 point dog, but now they are a 3 point favorite.

[RPP]

You are not reading the lines correctly. They were a 2 point dog, but now they are a 3 point favorite.

Ah I see, that makes much more sense.

[HoulihansTX]

AUBURN CLEMSON CLEMSON -1 bet up to -6

Looks like people are in a greement, w/ the revenge factor, and Aubrun no-longer having a WMD as a QB.

WMD = Weapon of Mass Destruction

[Ca$hfloW]

What do yal think of a&m this year, I like them at -2.5 v arkansas