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    Vin_vermillion
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    I am going to post once about Tressel

    and that is it. I am not going to get into an all out argument about the type of program he ran, the type of man he is, etc etc etc.

    What I am going to do is point out some fact and lace it with my opinion, and you all can do what you want with it. The people that have hated OSU for having one of the longest runs in Big Ten History of domination are still going to come on here and trash him, while the OSU butt suckers are still going to kiss his ass and say he didnt deserve all of this.

    I am a Notre Dame fan, so I have no dog in the fight, but I did work closely at a university with people who knew JT, and I have met him JT, but I cannot say it was long enough to say for sure what kind of man he was. I can only give you the impressions I got from the people I talked to, and the short time I spoke with him.

    These are the things I CAN tell you.

    1) College Football is a lot worse off today for having fired someone like JT. If you read the emails, he actually cared about his players. He obviously was not happy that the items were sold, and he tried to contact people that he thought would straighten our the players...people that had influence over the players. He did keep this to himself, but I am still trying to figure out how you all suddenly make him out to be a "fraud" and cheater. Exactl what did he do that gave him a competitive advantage other than let his players play??

    If had a son that wanted to play FB somewhere 3 hours away and that needed a father figure because I would not be there to watch out for that child, Jim Tressel is exactly the kind of person I would want as that rolemodel. He got info that his players were involved with some bad people, and he went to the people he felt had the most influence on the players to try to get it taken care of....while not endangering those players....

    2) Graduation and eligibility rates have only risen since JT has been coach at OSU. I am not sure when - but at some point it became more important to the media, and the NCAA that kids not sell their own belongings than whether a coach is doing the right thing as far as being a mentor, and helping the kids grow. The haters can say that OSU cheated all they want, but the fact is - OSU got NO competitive advantage by what happened.

    3) Jim Tressel lied. Brent Musburger said it best today when he said, " I bet most people would have done the same thing that Tressel did (lying) when they found out about the situation, but the cover up (lying in December about having knowledge) is where the real problem came in."

    I understand the Michigan people that come on here, and the PSU fans that come on here and have all this hate built up for Tressel. I mean, he has been kicking their asses for years....of course they are going to do anything to make themselves feel better about their program vs OSU.

    Nevermind the fact that PSU was 5th in the nation for arrests last year (and everyone claims JO PA is the most wondeful man in america) or that Michigan Did something that should have given them a MUCH bigger advantage on the field - practicing extra hours...

    I understand why those schools want to spew their hate. The people I dont get are the people who knew nothing of JT, know nothing about his chartity, the type of person he is, the ways he gave back to the university, and how he tried to make each kid a better person before they left OSU.

    He lied....something most of you do every day....get over it people.....

    I grew up a ND fan, but have always had respect for OSU...it's ridiculous that someone who actually cared about his players getting grades, and becoming a better person was (basically) fired over this incident.

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    Do you realize how much trouble Tressel was really in? I do not think so. He intentionally covered up the facts regarding the "Tattoo 5" to win games. He has run a very questionable program at Ohio State for years one. Other players are now coming forward with admissions of selling items for profit. I can go on and on, but the bottom line is this. By resigning, Tressel gives up any severance pay he may have received from Ohio State, which could have been as much as 3.5 million dollars had he been relieved from his coaching duties. Are you going to tell us that Tressel would have forfeited 3.5 million if he was NOT in much deeper than we know today? Remember, he hired an attorney who was, at one time, a part of the NCAA Infractions committee to defend him just incase something like this happened. Aparently he was advised to get out NOW, by this attorney. Ohio State has admitted that they "encouraged" Tressel to resign, after months of backing him up. Tressel was a lot dirtier than you make him out to be.

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    "College Football is a lot worse off today for having fired someone like JT"

    this is really the point. he made a huge mistake, if only because he allows mongoloids like big daddy to come on here and spew garbage about how they knew he ran a dirty program from the outset and was a lot dirtier than you know (but somehow, big daddy knows - apparently, this was a syndicate issue) and that anyone hiring an attorney must be guilty. as you said, the guys who hate OSU were going to hate it anyway. i for one love OSU hate. it's music to my ears. no one hated John Cooper, at least not for the reasons that they hate Tressel and OSU now.

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    Tressell sucks and got what he deserved.

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    coming from two haters...I'm not surprised about the responses.
    As biff states....you two dont get the point.

    Did he turn a blind eye? - probably.....

    Was he a role model to the kids, trying to help them be better people, doing good things in the community, increasing graduation rates, and having higher GPA's?

    The answer to all of the latter is YES.....

    you morons think being a FB coach is all about winning or losing. It should be about more than that - and JT was what a real coach should be....nothwithstanding the garbage bullshit rules that the NCAA enforces and JT ignored. Being a football coach to kids from less than privledged bac grounds should be about making the kids better people and giving back to the community. You guys dont get it or are too binded by your hate to care. live in ignorance - it doesnt surprise me. you and the other 80% of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffTFinancial View Post
    "College Football is a lot worse off today for having fired someone like JT"

    this is really the point. he made a huge mistake, if only because he allows mongoloids like big daddy to come on here and spew garbage about how they knew he ran a dirty program from the outset and was a lot dirtier than you know (but somehow, big daddy knows - apparently, this was a syndicate issue) and that anyone hiring an attorney must be guilty. as you said, the guys who hate OSU were going to hate it anyway. i for one love OSU hate. it's music to my ears. no one hated John Cooper, at least not for the reasons that they hate Tressel and OSU now.
    Are you actually stupid enough to try to defend Tressel? I told you that there was a lot more than meets the eye with him, and I was correct. 9 current players who have NOT been suspended are alleged to have participated in one of Ohio State's little scams. Tressel is now being investigated for illegal activities that date back to 2002. Pryor will never see another down as an Ohio State player. Are you actually that stupid to even imply that Tressel was not one of the dirtiest Head Coaches in History? You may want to learn how to type and spell while you are at it. Ohio State fans hated John Cooper because he could not defeat Michigan. The loved Tressel because he could. I wonder how many of those fans now think that all of those wins against Michigan were worth the penalties that the University will now suffer because of their dirty former Head Coach.

    Vin, you are the most gullable person in the world. If you think for one moment that Tressel's main concern was anything but his record, you are as dumb as all of the other Ohio State homers who still back him are. Fools like yourself are the people who buy beach front property in Kansas. Tressel KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY broke the rules to win. He could care less about the players, or what they did. He got so desperate that he KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY used players who had committed illegal activites in last year's Sugar Bowl, just so he could finally defeat a SEC team. Tressel INTENTIONALLY lied to Ohio State. He INTENTIONALLY lied to the NCAA. He hired an attorney, who upon listening to him told him to get out now. All Tressel cared about was his record. If some 2nd string QB had pulled the s**t that Pryor did, do you think that Tressel would not have set a new land speed record running to the Ohio State Compliance Office to report the kid? But since it was one of Tressel's star players, instead of some 2nd stringer, Tressel tried to cover up the issue. Tressel even contacted the Feds about this, but not Ohio State or the NCAA. Only the most gullable fool would think that Tressel did it for his "kids". Tressel has been dirty for years, as I have repeatly stated. Now the truth is starting to come out.
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    Big dorky - when did you meet Tressel??? Please advise me on your direct knowledge of the type of person he is???? you're a moron.

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    "He has run a very questionable program at Ohio State for years one"

    you mean typing and spelling like this? Idiot. My keyboard sticks.....

    If that's the best you got, then move on. What should I expect from a guy who roots for one of the biggest cheat schools of all time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Are you actually stupid enough to try to defend Tressel? I told you that there was a lot more than meets the eye with him, and I was correct. 9 current players who have NOT been suspended are alleged to have participated in one of Ohio State's little scams. Tressel is now being investigated for illegal activities that date back to 2002. Pryor will never see another down as an Ohio State player. Are you actually that stupid to even imply that Tressel was not one of the dirtiest Head Coaches in History? You may want to learn how to type and spell while you are at it. Ohio State fans hated John Cooper because he could not defeat Michigan. The loved Tressel because he could. I wonder how many of those fans now think that all of those wins against Michigan were worth the penalties that the University will now suffer because of their dirty former Head Coach.

    Vin, you are the most gullable person in the world. If you think for one moment that Tressel's main concern was anything but his record, you are as dumb as all of the other Ohio State homers who still back him are. Fools like yourself are the people who buy beach front property in Kansas. Tressel KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY broke the rules to win. He could care less about the players, or what they did. He got so desperate that he KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY used players who had committed illegal activites in last year's Sugar Bowl, just so he could finally defeat a SEC team. Tressel INTENTIONALLY lied to Ohio State. He INTENTIONALLY lied to the NCAA. He hired an attorney, who upon listening to him told him to get out now. All Tressel cared about was his record. If some 2nd string QB had pulled the s**t that Pryor did, do you think that Tressel would not have set a new land speed record running to the Ohio State Compliance Office to report the kid? But since it was one of Tressel's star players, instead of some 2nd stringer, Tressel tried to cover up the issue. Tressel even contacted the Feds about this, but not Ohio State or the NCAA. Only the most gullable fool would think that Tressel did it for his "kids". Tressel has been dirty for years, as I have repeatly stated. Now the truth is starting to come out.
    again - you are an idiot (obvious hater of OSU).

    I am a Notre Dame fan....I dont care for OSU at all.

    I am a fan of Tressel though - Because I - unlike you - am well aware of the type of person he is.

    I'm done with you. You are obviously one of the biggest morons on this site.

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    Let me tell you something boy. You have a whopping 248 posts in here, which means you are basically worthless as a poster. If you are going to defend Tressel, do it someplace else. We have a lot of knowledgeable football people who post in here. Not a one of them is defending that dumb, cheating, dirty FORMER Head Coach. I have forgotten more about Tressel than you will ever know. Take your act someplace else homer. Your B.S. will not fly in here. Try looking at the facts and the timeline, if you know what a timeline is. I know many Notre Dame fans, and I can tell you that they would be ashamed having you as an Irish fan. Notre Dame fans are among the most knowledgeable fans around, and you come up with this garbage.
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    Tyr looking at the facts and the timeline, if you know what a timeline is.

    Is this another example of your stellar educaton? MORON

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Let me tell you something boy. You have a whopping 248 posts in here, which means you are basically worthless as a poster. If you are going to defend Tressel, do it someplace else. We have a lot of knowledgeable football people who post in here. Not a one of them is defending that dumb, cheating, dirty FORMER Head Coach. I have forgotten more about Tressel than you will ever know. Take your act someplace else homer. Your B.S. will not fly in here. Try looking at the facts and the timeline, if you know what a timeline is.

    Just because you have nothing better to do than sit in your mothers basement and make a few hundred posts to a website each day in between looking up porno movies, doesnt mean your opinion on this site is valued. Sorry.....

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    way to edit that post....LMAO - is this site your whole life???

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    He has run a very questionable program at Ohio State for years one. Other players are now coming forward with admissions of selling THEIR items for profit.




    there you go bigdaddy. i fixed it for you.

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    Doesn't being a notre dame fan and an idiot go hand in hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPP View Post
    Doesn't being a notre dame fan and an idiot go hand in hand?

    lol says the kid from cincytucky through his two teeth....

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    Haven't liked Notre Dame since Parseghian went for the 10-10 tie rather than the win against Michigan St. in '66.

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    pretty good novel,hardly fit in my screen

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