1. #71
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    As someone who's made 50 plus trips to Vegas and was taught the game by a great dealer at Cesar's early on (played Craps exclusively in my 20s) the Field bet is the biggest sucker bet on the table in Craps. If this system works for you great, but I would never recommend it. And it is definitely not fool proof.

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    Try it in the sbr casino

    We are waiting for you

    Pauly great detail though'

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    It may be a good system for him JJ, I just don't want to see anyone lose 1000s trying a system that might not work best for them. I know I could go to any given Craps table in Vegas tonight and watch the field not come in for more than 6 straight rolls by just observing the table. There are no systems that are 100 percent fool proof. That statement you can take to the bank.

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    Jay the 6 times in a row seems easy to happen

    Scary system

    I will test on a sbr casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious View Post
    This is idiotic. No, retarded. No, imbecilic. No, insane. No, moronic. Actually it is all of those.

    Let's see, you are at a table that has a $10 min and a $500 max, and you are doubling all losses on a bet that has a vig of 5.6%.

    First bet, $10 you are 100 perc right it a very bad sistem
    Second, $20
    Third, $40
    Fourth, $80
    Fifth, $160
    Sixth, $320

    On a $500 max table you cannot double after loss 6.

    You will lose this $630 really fast.

    Just find a cute hooker and spend a few hours with her, that will be more fun.
    you are correct sir it a very bad system ,,,

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    I just got buried in SBR Book trying it

    Pauly where do you live?????????????????
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    There we go coach, you're back in the game. I tried it too, first time it took till the 5th roll to hit it. Needless to say I was one and done.

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    If you lose using this system, this just means you are a loser period.....


    Now that you know this,time to quit gambling.....

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    All Casino software is programmed to recognize "pattern/system wagering" then self adjust to combat accordingly...


    This is just one of the reasons why you see the casino is rigged threads 20 times a day.........

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    Pauly send me 450 points

    I got wiped out man

    Still an interesting theory

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    This system is battle tested

    Therefore is not theory

    You horseshoe headed fukk, you

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    Common sense is also a great attribute when using my system..........



    For instance:

    Case the table before you play

    Make mental blue print of rollers at table...

    Play field only when favorable players of my system is rolling........

    Use your fukkin noggin!

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    If you lack intuition

    This system is not for you

    Have a nice day

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    I tried it in the SBR casino, out of boredom mostly. I took 200 points in and bet a base unit of 3 pts, so martingaling it would be 3, 6, 12, 25, 50, 100... Yeah I know, 25 ain't exactly doubling, it was just easier that way...

    I went up about 60 points, then hit a bad streak, as a martingale system will do and down to only 12 pts, but lucked out and doubled up with boxcars. Slowly built it back up, got lucky with snake eyes on a 25 pt bet and boxcars on a 50 pt bet. Only got to 50 pt level two other times but hit Field bets. Built the bankroll to 300 pts and stopped, figured the luck was gonna turn, because with any martingale system it's not about "if" it's about "when".

    I made 100 pts, but would I try that with real money in a real casino? HELL NO!
    Like any other system, it works until it doesn't. Use it at your own risk.




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    Pauly you buried me
    I am depressed now
    Pauly help me

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    Pauly I don't think you are trying hard enough... I think if you really gave it your all you could turn "martingale the field" into a 100 page thesis...
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    Quote Originally Posted by curious View Post
    This is idiotic. No, retarded. No, imbecilic. No, insane. No, moronic. Actually it is all of those.

    Let's see, you are at a table that has a $10 min and a $500 max, and you are doubling all losses on a bet that has a vig of 5.6%.

    First bet, $10
    Second, $20
    Third, $40
    Fourth, $80
    Fifth, $160
    Sixth, $320

    On a $500 max table you cannot double after loss 6.

    You will lose this $630 really fast.

    Just find a cute hooker and spend a few hours with her, that will be more fun.


    Good ol' Curious. Best poster ever.

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    Dead


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    hammer.

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    Not that I endorse or even like chase systems - and I agree with most on the thread that chase system generally work until they don't but I quickly modelled this in excel using a RNG from 2 to 12

    I set it up to see what are the results over 120 rolls for a session (just picked a random number of rolls)

    Now I tracked how many times you had to make a $160 bet, a $320 bet, and if it went over the $320 bet.

    My premise if - what if you ran the system this way:

    You martingale up to a $320 bet - if you lose the $320 bet you start over at $10. Now interestingly enough over 20 theoretically sessions. About 65% of the time you would never need to make a bet over $320, however the other 35% you did - so the claim that the OP never went over $320 bet in 6 years - I find highly unlikely.

    Now the interesting part - of the 35% of the time you has to start over ie. lost a $320 bet and went back to $10 - of the 20 sessions I modeled it didn't happen again (i.e have to start over at $10) and of those sessions - you always you were always net positive.

    Some sessions - you never had to start over and would yield $900 to $1200 profit ($10 bettor) over 120 rolls and some sessions $300-700 profit - if you had to start back at $10 (i.e lost a $320 bet.)

    So mmmmaaayyybbbeee - and this is a very probably not maybe

    If you added the following rules:

    1) You start over at $10 if you reach the $320 bet and lose it
    2) you limit your session to a ceratin # of rolls or time (i.e 120 rolls, 1 hour, etc) - baiscally whatever is optimal
    3) Only play with a bankroll of $1260 - this gives you the ability to go up to a $320 bet twice (i.e -$10,-$20,-$40,etc) - if you lose that - you leave the casino

    Now you may not be positive every session - but from the model, and trust me real world is TOTALLY different than a RNG in excel - theoretically you may be positive over a certain number of sessions.

    But agreed over the long run you will probably be more negative than positive. But at least this way - you get some entertainment, you build up comps, and you limit exposure to losing big

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    Quote Originally Posted by degengamble View Post

    Now you may not be positive every session - but from the model, and trust me real world is TOTALLY different than a RNG in excel - theoretically you may be positive over a certain number of sessions.

    that is true about most 'systems' -- however there are less -ev bets on the table to do a martingale

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    A better way would be to wait until 3 or 4 rolls in a row that do not hit in the field then start betting the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustedu View Post

    A better way would be to wait until 3 or 4 rolls in a row that do not hit in the field then start betting the field.



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    ok gentlemen, i debated about sharing this info after reading this craps "system" but i thought what the heck. now i'm not one to be calling mathematical systems like this one "the holy grail" or anything but after reading this i think you'll see it has a high probability of being succesful.

    STEFS HOLY GRAIL OF CRAPS system:


    -before i get into the nuts and bolts of the system,there are a few things you'll need (not a must but helps)

    1.track shoes
    2. some kind of athletic wear or comfortable clothing with hood
    3. be able to run a sub 5 sec. 40 yd dash
    4. have some agility

    -now before i divulge the key components of this system i will say that it is not as cerebral as pauly's but i think you'll find that it has a chance for even greater gains.

    MAIN SYSTEM: i like to bring about $60 or so on a $10 table so it gives me a little cushion if the first bets don't hit. make sure you are as close to the dealer as possible and that the table is not that full. start off the progression by putting the first $10 bet on the "hard 12". this bet pays 30-1. if you hit the first one great, you're up $300 and ready for the next roll. if you lose it's on to step 2. in this step you put 20 on hard 12. if this hits you'll now have $590!!! (600- original bet) step 3 is to bet $30 on hard 12. if this hits you're now up $870 for just 5 minutes of time!! the final step (and i've only got to this step once as i believe the odds of getting to step 4 are something like 12,500-1) needs to be performed with great precision. check to see where the "bottleneck" in the casino is. what i mean by this is the narrow corridor that security uses to get a glimpse of everyones face as you pass by. now say "look over there!" to the pit boss and grab as many of the 100-500 dollar chips as you can hold and run (preferably in a zig zag fashion) out the nearest exit making sure to cover your head w/ the hood as you pass through the bottleneck. you have the ability to pull down over 100,000 a year with this system w/ a stake of only $60!!!!
    Last edited by stefan084; 01-28-14 at 12:21 PM.

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