[Tuna Fish Riot]

Just wanted to share something.

In the past couple of days, I've been trying out Single Zero Roulette at Bookmaker. I only had $25 left on my account so I decided to just have fun and experiment. I used the Martingale betting strategy in combination of my own personal system, I suppose, and won $60 so far. I used $30ish for a sports bet and won, so I managed to get my bankroll on its feet to $110!

It happens so that Bookmaker and SBR Casino use the same Roulette Flash games so I practice my custom Martingale system at SBR sometimes to "warm up" before playing my real money at Bookmaker. I've turned 30 betpoints into 135 so far! I should probably get a pizza, but I'm having fun with roulette.

Here was how I played Martingale for roulette.

1. Play it as you normally would.

2. Analyze the patterns.

Roulette games show you a history of the spin results, so sometimes you can see apparent patterns. In total, I have played 300-400 spins so far. Here is what I have noticed.

MOST of the time, I see a pattern like Black, Black, Red, Red, Red, Black, Black, Red, Red, Red...

3. Play by the patterns.

Whenever I notice the pattern previously stated, I use Martingale quantities, but I bet on the winning color and attempt to get the streak. So if I bet $1 on Red and it comes out Black, I'll bet $2 on Black next time and most of the time I hit the win. If a Red came out, forcing me to lose the $2 bet, I would then bet $4 on Red, etc. If I ever win, my bet goes back to $1 and on the last winning color.

MOST of the time, you won't get a long string of the alternation pattern: Black, Red, Black, Red, Black, Red, Black, Red, etc. I notice from the results history that colors, for the most part, comes in twos. Two Reds are always going to win in a row. Two Blacks are always going to win in a row.

If I notice a tame pattern such as: Red, Black, Red, Red, Black, Red, Black, Black, Red, etc., then I will just revert to the normal Martingale system. Basically, to summarize, I start betting on the streaks when I notice the pattern. After all, the long streaks are there to break the Martingale bets!

4. Limit your Max Bet. Control yourself and accept your losses!

This is where I try to play smarter and not dig myself into a hole. So you know for Martingale, you double your previous bet after each loss, right? Example: $1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128 (yikes!). Well, typically if I go on a losing streak and lose my $8 bet, I will ACCEPT MY LOSS and back down my bet to $1. For the most part, Martingale betting is pretty good and will make you dollars pretty quick, so accept your $7 or $15 loss. You can grind it back up easily.

5. Superstitious Mumbo Jumbo AKA Stupid Stuff

You can disregard this part, but it's just what I like to do. I like to load up the roulette game, analyze the history of color results, and play a spin or two with the according strategy in which I win a dollar MOST of the time. I then log off to take a (10-30min) break and do other things. Sometimes I log on an play until I win $3-4 and then exit the game. Sometimes I do sessions until I win $10. The point is to not to play a long period of time. I feel that the game might start off tame (no big streaks or long alternation patterns) every time I load it up. Besides that, I'll feel more stress-free and relaxed so I can play smartly.

It's very stupid, but hey, I'm somewhat superstitious so I'm going to continue it. It's been working and hey... They say if it ain't broke, don't fix it! I'm going to continue my process: log in, win a dollar or two, log out, take a break.

6. From my records.

- I've only played a $16 bet three times so far, when playing normal Martingale. Three times total coming from 300+ Roulette spins. I've NEVER played a $32 bet.

- I have accepted losses (streak) and reverted my bet size a total of three times. I bail out of the $16 bets.

- I am up +61 from real money and up +75 from SBR Casino.

7. My Goal

I want to continue doing this along with sports betting until I can hit a $200, which was my initial bankroll. I was new to sports betting and didn't manage my money too well and lost most of it. That's how I ended up with $25. Now I'm grinding it back up with some roulette.

Anyway, don't get the impression that I'm trying to pass this off as a perfect system. I'm sure it isn't, but it's been working out for me so far. I know they say Martingale is only good in the short run, so I'm going to probably stop once I hit my goal. Wish me luck!

[over5.5]

got some reading to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marting...ting_system%29

thanks for the great post.

[BRAVES1985]

good luck!

[Tuna Fish Riot]

This is from my Bookmaker account.

11/22/2010
[Casino] Roulette Single-Zero
Win: $53.00

11/23/2010
[Casino] Roulette Single-Zero
Win: $70.00

Total won from Roulette: +123
Current Balance: $186.43

Holy crap! My goal is almost met! I won $70 today! I'm so happy to almost get all of my deposit back. No need to reload!

I didn't post it, but I also won $6 from an NBA bet.

I hope my original post helps out some of you. It feels like free money. I better be careful and not get so overconfident! Having more money does feel like i have a bigger cushion for roulette. However, that is just an illusion since bet sizes increase exponentially. Keep that in mind, guys.

[Tuna Fish Riot]

11/24/2010
[Casino] Roulette Single-Zero
Win: $15.00

Total won from Roulette: +138
Current Balance: $201.43

Okaaaaaaaaay. I just woke up and played some more. I went on a roll, going +25. I had a couple of beats and regrinded back to +15.

This is probably the longest session I have ever played straight and I found it stressing. I can now say that I'm officially DONE with roulette. I hit my target bankroll with an additional $1 surplus.

Time to lose it all to sports betting!

Happy gaming, everyone.

[BRAVES1985]

is the with a live cam?

[BRAVES1985]

i meant is this with a live cam

[Tuna Fish Riot]

Nope nope. It's the exact same flash game/client as the one at SBR Casino. No live camera. It's all controlled server-side.

I suspected it was rigged when I started but I didn't care. I somehow ended up making money.

A note... it bugged out on me once before. I hit the Spin button and then the ball and roulette wheel kept spinning infinitely. The ball never dropped into the number zone. I just exited the game and came back on. They didn't place the bet for that spin, though, thank goodness.

Also, another weird thing is that there were at least 4 separate instances where I landed on zero/green twice consecutively.

I managed to minimize any losses though.

[Kaabee]

report back when you have 30,000-40,000 spins

[Tuna Fish Riot]

Haha. Not likely. I'd never outlast that long. I have a feeling that I will lose it all within the next 500 spins.

As I said, I'm through with this game. Gonna end on a high note and follow NFL bets from my friend who has a great paid capper service. Smooth sailin' from now on.

[Jrod124]

exactly not enough spins. u are just lucky

[refrain87]

its been working decently for me. Thanks for the concept!

[Tuna Fish Riot]

exactly not enough spins. u are just lucky

Uhhhh... Obviously? Why would I play "enough spins" if "enough spins" is what will cause me to lose all my money? I never stated that this strategy was for the long-term, hence why I stopped after hitting $200. I clearly stated in the original post that I would be stopping after hitting my goal to prevent any losses. Martingale betting strategies are known to be very effective for profiting in the short-run. The point is to take advantage of the short-run, make some money, and quit while you are ahead.

its been working decently for me. Thanks for the concept!

Glad you found it helpful.

[Cappy]

I don't know anything about roulette really, but I get the sense that all you're doing is changing your session expectation. Whereas roulette generally gives you a small loss most times, and a larger win sometimes; it seems like you're changing that to be a small gain most times and a large loss sometimes.

I would imagine that the value in playing roulette doesn't change at all. If anyone understands this, please tell me, I'm quite interested.

[BRAVES1985]

soon as you make a withdraw you will start to loose... it happens to everyone

[chipper]

Thanks for posting your betting strategy.

[Jankar]

it is legaly ?

[Ibrakadabra]

To believe there are systems to beat roulette?

[will2survive]

worked from 6 to 27--then eventually lost it all

[LostBankroll]

Ive been doing this for over a year now. Dig up my thread on this.

[Eleven]

Interesting, will try it out.

[wtt0315]

good luck on your strategy

[sapidoc]

I've been winning from Roulette too, but I win at the live roulette tables. Guys, there is only one system to beat live roulette. It works every time and I actually guarantee its success. I know a few people who have tried it and they say its worked for them as well. Its very simple and doesn't involve any math or patterns at all. That is why it is so great. What you do is you knock the coupier the fk out and grab the chips from his tray.

[Eleven]

I've been winning from Roulette too, but I win at the live roulette tables. Guys, there is only one system to beat live roulette. It works every time and I actually guarantee its success. I know a few people who have tried it and they say its worked for them as well. Its very simple and doesn't involve any math or patterns at all. That is why it is so great. What you do is you knock the coupier the fk out and grab the chips from his tray.

[easywinner]

What is the longest streak of one color that anyone has ever seen before on a roulette table at a real life in person casino, like in Vegas? I go to a few different casinos regularly, some of the time i will just go and watch things and not even play. I'd say I've been to a casino at least a few hundred to a thousand times and the longest streak i can ever remember seeing in roulette is 7 in a row of the same color. Based on what i was reading earlier apparently there is a 1% chance of the same color coming up 7 times in a row. Most of the time what i have seen, is as the OP stated, there will be like 3 reds then 2 blacks then 3 reds, 3 blacks, small groups of one color alternating. What have other people noticed that pay attention to this? I know that it's entirely possible for say 8,9,10 or more of the same color to hit in a row but I've never seen it after being at different casinos hundreds of times. Based on what i have seen, as long as someone's pockets are deep enough to absorb any potential long losing streaks, i don't see how using the Martingale strategy with discipline and goals set in advance how someone couldn't successfully win? I know there are addicts and people that don't have the discipline to follow a plan but if someone did execute the plan properly and left as soon as they met their target amount of winnings for that session they should win in my opinion.

[sapidoc]

What is the longest streak of one color that anyone has ever seen before on a roulette table at a real life in person casino, like in Vegas? I go to a few different casinos regularly, some of the time i will just go and watch things and not even play. I'd say I've been to a casino at least a few hundred to a thousand times and the longest streak i can ever remember seeing in roulette is 7 in a row of the same color. Based on what i was reading earlier apparently there is a 1% chance of the same color coming up 7 times in a row. Most of the time what i have seen, is as the OP stated, there will be like 3 reds then 2 blacks then 3 reds, 3 blacks, small groups of one color alternating. What have other people noticed that pay attention to this? I know that it's entirely possible for say 8,9,10 or more of the same color to hit in a row but I've never seen it after being at different casinos hundreds of times. Based on what i have seen, as long as someone's pockets are deep enough to absorb any potential long losing streaks, i don't see how using the Martingale strategy with discipline and goals set in advance how someone couldn't successfully win? I know there are addicts and people that don't have the discipline to follow a plan but if someone did execute the plan properly and left as soon as they met their target amount of winnings for that session they should win in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marting...ting_system%29


I think the longest streak I've personally seen is 12 reds. I didn't witness all of them, but saw the history ticker walking by a table in Vegas and counted 10. Then watched 3 spins: red, red, black.

[easywinner]

Ya that's what i meant was that i would just look at the history while i was near a table if i wasn't playing. In those charts what's with the huge drop off in both? Would that be the 1 time where you hit the horrendous losing streak? In both charts the player would be up a decent amount in the beginning and middle it's just that horrendous drop off that would kill you according to those charts. Depending on what amount you were betting the table limit might come into play as well. The OP was talking about betting small amounts but if someone was betting big amounts is what i mean. Are there any good books to read on money management or betting strategy for table games?

[TheBettingMan]

I basically knocked Heroes Casino for over $35,000 using a modified Martingale betting strategy. Yes, there are patterns in supposedly random games. I'd like to get some points so I can try the SBR Casino blackjack! I can give them back once I earned them over there with a few more!

[easywinner]

I basically knocked Heroes Casino for over $35,000 using a modified Martingale betting strategy. Yes, there are patterns in supposedly random games. I'd like to get some points so I can try the SBR Casino blackjack! I can give them back once I earned them over there with a few more!

Are you the guy that the article is about on casinomeister then? I just stumbled upon that article talking about how Heroes accused a player of cheating after they won $35,000.

[TheBettingMan]

Yep, same guy.

[easywinner]

Yep, same guy.

Nice, screw that casino too. Any casino that accuses a player of cheating simply because they use a certain money management strategy is corrupt. You did nothing wrong except grow your balance to $35K and they just made it a hassle and called you a cheater because they didn't want to pay you. Personally i think 99% of all online casinos are shady or corrupt. At least when you go to a brick and mortar casino in person you don't have to worry about getting your payout.

[chipper]

$35K... that's a great score! Cograts.

[TheBettingMan]

$35K... that's a great score! Cograts.

Thanks, but its money all gone now! It went to paying off ************, a funeral, taxes and some things I needed. I need to do it again!

[He_Who_Forgets]

Thanks, but its money all gone now! It went to paying off ************, a funeral, taxes and some things I needed. I need to do it again!

well share the strategy already!

[chipper]

I'd love to hear the strategy as well. Thanks!!