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    Casino VP machines payoff better early mornings (5am - 8am)

    True? If not... are there better times to play ?

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    Sammy, I love playing VP at oddball off-hours. Yes, 5am-8am is good. Anything in the 2am to 10am window is good.

    Pretty quiet at those hours. Pet-peeve is casinos that blast the bad music. Palms is guilty of this.

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    thanks Chucky

    Sammy and old lady leaving in 20mins (6am) to test this

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    Yes because they know most people will not be playing at those hours only the sharks are out there like Fishhead who has made over 600,000 playing slots

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    At casino now.... about to eat comped breakfast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    At casino now.... about to eat comped breakfast
    What are you having for breakfast, sammmy?

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    Pic later

    Gotta find wife... hope she is winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    True? If not... are there better times to play ?
    Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

    My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

    My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?
    You want to argue math while Sammy is arguing human manipulation

    Who knows if he is right...I say no but again you are clueless as to the actual topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    You want to argue math while Sammy is arguing human manipulation

    Who knows if he is right...I say no but again you are clueless as to the actual topic
    I did work in a Casino for 4 years if that counts for anything. And for 6 of those months I was a slot machine attendant. But as you say... I am clueless.

    You're an informative genius and I'm an idiot. We all already know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    I did work in a Casino for 4 years if that counts for anything. And for 6 of those months I was a slot machine attendant. But as you say... I am clueless.

    You're an informative genius and I'm an idiot. We all already know this.
    Again, Sammy is clearly arguing human manipulation of machines while you come in to post coin flips depending on time of day does not matter

    Your response was fukkin clueless to his post. Admit it and move on instead of trying to now argue another topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Again, Sammy is clearly arguing human manipulation of machines while you come in to post coin flips depending on time of day does not matter

    Your response was fukkin clueless to his post. Admit it and move on instead of trying to now argue another topic

    Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post

    Good luck with that.
    why are you laughing at my post?

    i am telling you what he is arguing not that i agree

    infact i specifically said i disagreed with him

    WOW, i bet you are smart...probably a DOCTORATE in liberal arts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    why are you laughing at my post?

    i am telling you what he is arguing not that i agree

    infact i specifically said i disagreed with him

    WOW, i bet you are smart...probably a DOCTORATE in liberal arts???
    Regardless of what Sammy's argument is... I am telling you and him... it almost certainly doesn't matter. If I'm wrong either one or both of you can laugh all the way to the bank. If I'm right I might have just saved you some money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

    My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?

    I guess if Sammy keeps track and it works for him - if I were him I would keep doing it. On the other hand, in theory, maybe, a casino could be crooked and very carefully paying out a little at a quiet time to a small amount of players to just get up to barely legal payouts levels. Too much at risk for a regulated casino to ever do this unless they were 100% sure they would never be caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    I guess if Sammy keeps track and it works for him - if I were him I would keep doing it. On the other hand, in theory, maybe, a casino could be crooked and very carefully paying out a little at a quiet time to a small amount of players to just get up to barely legal payouts levels. Too much at risk for a regulated casino to ever do this unless they were 100% sure they would never be caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Regardless of what Sammy's argument is... I am telling you and him... it almost certainly doesn't matter. If I'm wrong either one or both of you can laugh all the way to the bank. If I'm right I might have just saved you some money.
    like i said, you were completely wrong in your 1st post

    i corrected you as to what sammy is arguing

    you continue to lump me in with sammy when it is clearly noted i do not agree with him

    just admit you were wrong and completely fukked up

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    If casinos did mess with VP mahines, which they don't, logic would dictate they pay out more during busy times so other gamblers will see others winning and get the bug themselves.

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    Logically no, time of day shouldn't make any difference at all your chances are still gonna be the same...unless the casinos are messing with them at diffirenent times of the day and i doubt that

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    Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

    He then ATTACKS IT and does well

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    like i said, you were completely wrong in your 1st post

    i corrected you as to what sammy is arguing

    you continue to lump me in with sammy when it is clearly noted i do not agree with him

    just admit you were wrong and completely fukked up
    In the 1st post I asked 3 questions. What exactly was I wrong about? The questions?

    Also, why do you feel the need to attack my posts at every chance you get? I know you do it because in your mind it makes you feel stronger... and more powerful... and more specifically you are trying to make me look dumber and weaker. This is a very foolish strategy. Anyone with a brain can see exactly what you are trying to do. And it's not just me... although I know you despise me more than most... and I know why... it's not hard to figure out. Most people on SBR can see right through your terrible illusions. You're like an unskilled magician that can only fool the dumbest of the dumb.
    Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 06-25-18 at 11:05 AM.

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    My MIL is a slot player, but she won't play in the morning or early afternoon. She says the machines don't pay then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

    He then ATTACKS IT and does well
    I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

    Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

    Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?
    Very cool insight your giving bro, i mess with slot machines alot and everything is so random ive yet to find anything that really helps, any tips?? Or is it literally all random luck of the draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

    He then ATTACKS IT and does well
    After that he follows the losing gambler home and peeks in their windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom72 View Post
    Very cool insight your giving bro, i mess with slot machines alot and everything is so random ive yet to find anything that really helps, any tips?? Or is it literally all random luck of the draw?
    It's been a pretty long time since I worked at a casino so I'm sure many things have changed. All I can tell you is... in the 4 years that I worked at a casino I never once saw a professional slot machine player. Most people have their individual superstitions that they consider "science". Whether any of them actually work or not... well.. I'm skeptical. My advice is only play slot machines if they entertain you. If you're not playing for entertainment it's almost certain that you will be disappointed in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    It's been a pretty long time since I worked at a casino so I'm sure many things have changed. All I can tell you is... in the 4 years that I worked at a casino I never once saw a professional slot machine player. Most people have their individual superstitions that they consider "science". Whether any of them actually work or not... well.. I'm skeptical. My advice is only play slot machines if they entertain you. If you're not playing for entertainment it's almost certain that you will be disappointed in the long run.
    Right right, i treat it like playing lotto stratch off tixs, never expect to win big but its fun knowing that it could happen just by playing a few bucks here and there

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    Slot machines don't have different pay tables at different times of the day. Server based gaming had that potential but it was a huge flop. Just another gambler fallacy.

    Fishhead is full of shit about his slot winnings. Getting a free used condom and salt packet from the 4 queens is not +ev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    .... about to eat comped breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by tony_come View Post

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    has to be a way to make $$$ on mechanical horses... gotta be an angle




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    Computerized gambling machines always have the advantage.. Good way to piss away your bank roll and get hooked like a junkie playing them..

    I avoid now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

    Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?
    up over 600,000 no lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    up over 600,000 no lie
    He’s up over 600k but clips coupons, dumpster dives and begs for free play? Gtfoh. If you believe fishdick is a successful gambler I got some ocean front property In Oklahoma to sell you.

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    sent Fishhead a msg

    he may come in here and straighten many of you out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    up over 600,000 no lie
    I barely remember Fishhead. I only remember that he seemed like a decent guy but I don't remember how trustworthy he was. Is he the same guy that had won something like a million dollar wager on his sbr spreadsheet?

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