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    Which Game In A Brick & Mortar Casino Would Most Likely Be Fixed?

    I'm not saying any games are fixed in brick & mortar casinos.

    But if they were, which one in your opinion most likely would be?

    My buddy and I once watched black hit 16 times straight at a roulette table in Vegas.

    Seems impossible right?

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    Looking like Georgia Tech/Georgia so far

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    electronic slots and video card games.

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    Single and double deck blackjack

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    I'm pretty sure they are all fixed against the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    I'm pretty sure they are all fixed against the player.
    This.

    All casino games are fixed against the players, and the casino do not even have to lie about it. That's the nature of the game and something you accept when you decide to play. Would they rig a game and risk the whole business just to get a 10% advantage instead of the 2-3% advantage they have legally? I doubt it.

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    Slot machines have set odds and payoffs. No reason for casino to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post
    This.

    All casino games are fixed against the players, and the casino do not even have to lie about it. That's the nature of the game and something you accept when you decide to play. Would they rig a game and risk the whole business just to get a 10% advantage instead of the 2-3% advantage they have legally? I doubt it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    Slot machines have set odds and payoffs. No reason for casino to fix.




    Correct gents.

    Just a hypothetical question based mainly on my example in original post.


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    I've been cheated twice on hand held blackjack in a casino. Odds can easily be turned against the casino in these games so they identify good players and "adjust". I'm not talking about shuffling up, I'm talking about removing cards from the deck and holding out the next card, I'm sure there's a name for it.

    I guess they think what is a card counter going to do about it, and they're kind of right.

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    I catch dealer miscounts in blackjack almost every time I go to the casino.

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    A lot of roulette dealers can place the ball within a 4 number range every time. I was told by a roulette dealer once off shift that the best way for them not to bury you is tip them right away when you get to the table an amount that would catch their attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    A lot of roulette dealers can place the ball within a 4 number range every time. I was told by a roulette dealer once off shift that the best way for them not to bury you is tip them right away when you get to the table an amount that would catch their attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    A lot of roulette dealers can place the ball within a 4 number range every time. I was told by a roulette dealer once off shift that the best way for them not to bury you is tip them right away when you get to the table an amount that would catch their attention.
    I know a croupier (high school friend) who helped out her friends at roulette table.
    Intentionally and planned ahead of time with much success doing just
    what you describe.

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    Those wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    Slot machines have set odds and payoffs. No reason for casino to fix.
    They can be managed. It is optional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    A lot of roulette dealers can place the ball within a 4 number range every time. I was told by a roulette dealer once off shift that the best way for them not to bury you is tip them right away when you get to the table an amount that would catch their attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I know a croupier (high school friend) who helped out her friends at roulette table.
    Intentionally and planned ahead of time with much success doing just
    what you describe.
    Unless you guys are talking about some kind of magnetized ball or something then they are bullshitting you. Goduke's guy was trying to get tips from him or for roulette dealers in general, and snowball's guy just happened to win.

    0 chance a roulette dealer can control the outcome. You have the ball spinning one way, the wheel spinning the other, and the ball bouncing once, twice, three times, more than three times, or no times when it falls into the wheel. Would be about 10 times harder than controlling dice that hit the wall on a craps table, and no one can do that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    Unless you guys are talking about some kind of magnetized ball or something then they are bullshitting you. Goduke's guy was trying to get tips from him or for roulette dealers in general, and snowball's guy just happened to win.

    0 chance a roulette dealer can control the outcome. You have the ball spinning one way, the wheel spinning the other, and the ball bouncing once, twice, three times, more than three times, or no times when it falls into the wheel. Would be about 10 times harder than controlling dice that hit the wall on a craps table, and no one can do that either.
    I don't play roulette though, I only play poker at the casino. I mean I guess he could be full of it but not sure what the point of it would be since we were at a poker table at another casino and before he told me I told him I don't play roulette. Seems like a lot of effort for tips lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    I don't play roulette though, I only play poker at the casino. I mean I guess he could be full of it but not sure what the point of it would be since we were at a poker table at another casino and before he told me I told him I don't play roulette. Seems like a lot of effort for tips lol
    Yeah who knows. Could be an ego thing wanting to seem special. Lot of clowns in that line of work

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    A lot of roulette dealers can place the ball within a 4 number range every time. I was told by a roulette dealer once off shift that the best way for them not to bury you is tip them right away when you get to the table an amount that would catch their attention.
    I've never believed this. Just because of how often the ball bounces off the number dividers, which is a lot. This would offset any skill IMO.

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    This Casino Operator Is in Trouble for Allegedly Rigging Its Poker Machines

    Australia’s Crown Resorts Ltd, the world’s biggest listed casino operator and a wannabe competitor to the likes of Steve Wynn overseas, could be in big trouble.

    The company was accused of tampering with its poker machines Wednesday when an Australian lawmaker presented a video of whistleblowers to parliament. The news sent the company’s stock sliding.


    http://fortune.com/2017/10/18/crown-...chines-rigged/



    A bunch if ex employees blew the whistle on them
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    craps (loaded dice) video poker.

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    If dice are NOT loaded in a casino then why do they end up switching dice on you? I've seen it a half dozen times. A guy will go on a hot streak then one dice goes off the table, pit boss inspects it and tosses it out, (or does a palm switch on the die) they offer the shooter a new set of dice to choose, immediately craps out.

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    The new-ish card shufflers that are tied to the positions in games like Pai Gow and Ultimate Holdem are sure shitty. I can play for hours at a place with random position selection methods (like rolling dice, for example) but curiously when I play with the "random" number generator to determine where the cards go, I go down like a $20 whore.

    All the games are tilted towards the house, for sure. It sucks they can't be happy or make money with that (see Cesar's Entertainment 25 billion of debt as an example).

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    No legal ones in USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post

    My buddy and I once watched black hit 16 times straight at a roulette table in Vegas.

    ya'll made a ton of $$$ right ?

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    Slots o Video games are easiest "fixed" ..I have read about Indian casinos in Wisconsin purposely not paying out the stated % like they are suppose to pay out like 95% back from machine or whatever it may be...They pay the fine each month from the gaming commission instead every month. They make off better dong that...Indian casinos are the worst for slots total scammer in some cases

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    Well I think by definition it's slots. Any game that is electronically programmed to pay 90 cents on the dollar really gives no credence to variances in probability and rules out the luck factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I'm not saying any games are fixed in brick & mortar casinos.

    But if they were, which one in your opinion most likely would be?

    My buddy and I once watched black hit 16 times straight at a roulette table in Vegas.

    Seems impossible right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    ya'll made a ton of $$$ right ?



    No sir

    We went to the table when we saw it had hit 11-12 in a row & of course thought we were playing the odds betting against it & was certain we were gonna win.

    After 4-5 more blacks in a row & a few hundred dollars lighter we walked away.

    Was unreal.

    At Excalibur, wil never forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves View Post
    I've never believed this. Just because of how often the ball bounces off the number dividers, which is a lot. This would offset any skill IMO.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1iRDn3DeDA
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    i have a system to never lose in brick and mortar casinos





    i do not play


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    u get my pm dawg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    Unless you guys are talking about some kind of magnetized ball or something then they are bullshitting you. Goduke's guy was trying to get tips from him or for roulette dealers in general, and snowball's guy just happened to win.

    0 chance a roulette dealer can control the outcome. You have the ball spinning one way, the wheel spinning the other, and the ball bouncing once, twice, three times, more than three times, or no times when it falls into the wheel. Would be about 10 times harder than controlling dice that hit the wall on a craps table, and no one can do that either.
    100% agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I'm not saying any games are fixed in brick & mortar casinos.

    But if they were, which one in your opinion most likely would be?

    My buddy and I once watched black hit 16 times straight at a roulette table in Vegas.

    Seems impossible right?
    The odds of it hitting black 16 times in a row are the same of this sequence hitting - R/B/B/R/B/B/B/R/B/R/R/R/B/R/R/B. But yet this doesn't make you think it could possibly be rigged.

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