[bravoman81]

wondering the results over the long term. his other systems work in baccarat.

[klemopixx]

Craps = win fast or lose fast. There is no way a long term strategy can give you +EV. Take the money and run if you do hit.

[BuckyOne]

I agree - very hard game to be a grinder at.

[gauchojake]

What is the strategy? Need some info here pal

[DrunkHorseplayer]

There is no such thing as a system that works in craps or in baccarat, unless one is cheating.

[chico2663]

play the don't pass line. only game that allows you to bet with house.

[INVEGA MAN]

I play don't pass line with bets on 6 and the 8

[StackinGreen]

play the don't pass line. only game that allows you to bet with house.

They bar you from 12 losing, so quite simply, you are incorrect, Chico. Just sayin'

[rkelly110]

wondering the results over the long term. his other systems work in baccarat.

Not that strategy, but bought another from the same company which is probably the same, IDK.

The one I bought said to wait until a new game starts, but take note if the pass line hit or a 7 came up.

The strategy I bought is just pass line, don't pass line bets. Observing the last game, if the pass line hit, bet that.
Stay on that until it loses. When it loses, bet don't pass and double up (martingale). Keep going back and forth.

I've played live on $5 tables with a $40 buy in and set a goal of $20 to walk away with. (no martingale) Won more
than I lost, but can't get close enough to play most times.

[jjgold]

Dice Control only way but very few ever mastered it

I think they have schools for it actually

[trytrytry]

wondering the results over the long term. his other systems work in baccarat.

If you are paying money for Casino Game LONg TERM WIN strategies you need to reevaluate everything you are doing.

If you dont know the games and are buying things to help you play basic best possible, minimize the house edge, and youre going to gamble -EV casino table games anyway (which face it most of us do at times) thats smart, learn the basics to minimize house edge, but much better ways FREE on the WEB to do that that paying for anything.

[BuckyOne]

Dice Control only way but very few ever mastered it

I think they have schools for it actually

Yes, they are called garages - buy a table - practice till the cows come home. That achieves the pit boss's attention - dice cannot be thrown above the height of the table - no roll is called - no soft tossing - must hit the other wall first - not just the table - the wall or they call it no roll. Or just kick you out.

Would have to hit with gorilla tactics - a thrower playing 5 bucks and then his buddy at the other end bets big - but that will get caught eventually but will last longer.

[sweethook]

the best i have found is to just do what the table is doing , if hot go with it if cold bet donts

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Dice setting is a scam.

[Bustedu]

Over the long run you will never beat the casino. Not gonna happen.

[jjgold]

I did not know rules for throwing dice??

Is that for real and if so that means dice control does work??

[StackinGreen]

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[StackinGreen]

So boys, do you guys play all that much in Vegas when you go these days? I'm talking table games and not sports. I have been there for big sports weekends for the past 14 years and I can tell you, the casino rules and edge have gone up every year. Blackjack has changed even so much; nearly all strip casinos are some weird version, continuous shuffle, hardly anyone has 3:2 blackjack straight as it should be, it's all gimmicks like Spanish 21 or otherwise with 6:5 garbage payouts. I don't know why people even bother anymore. I like sitting and playing 3-card poker occasionally, but even that I've noticed they've raped in the last 4 years alone, odds-wise.

You can't beat betting sports given the 10% vig and the fact that the math of winning isn't a "guarantee" against you like all the other games, which are sure things for the casino. Sports isn't and never will be.

Just stick to it.

[rkelly110]

So boys, do you guys play all that much in Vegas when you go these days? I'm talking table games and not sports. I have been there for big sports weekends for the past 14 years and I can tell you, the casino rules and edge have gone up every year. Blackjack has changed even so much; nearly all strip casinos are some weird version, continuous shuffle, hardly anyone has 3:2 blackjack straight as it should be, it's all gimmicks like Spanish 21 or otherwise with 6:5 garbage payouts. I don't know why people even bother anymore. I like sitting and playing 3-card poker occasionally, but even that I've noticed they've raped in the last 4 years alone, odds-wise.

You can't beat betting sports given the 10% vig and the fact that the math of winning isn't a "guarantee" against you like all the other games, which are sure things for the casino. Sports isn't and never will be.

Just stick to it.

Personally, I like instant gratification. Whether it be craps, roulette or a slot machine. Hate cards. I was a horse player which progressed to sports betting. Really hate waiting for 3 hours for a game to be over to collect. Won and lost by 1/2 a point which really sucks depending on which side you were on. Horse racing is like hand grenades, you can be close and still win, plus it's over in less than 2 minutes.

[ROFLcopter]

Martingale the Field bet

[StackinGreen]

Personally, I like instant gratification. Whether it be craps, roulette or a slot machine. Hate cards. I was a horse player which progressed to sports betting. Really hate waiting for 3 hours for a game to be over to collect. Won and lost by 1/2 a point which really sucks depending on which side you were on. Horse racing is like hand grenades, you can be close and still win, plus it's over in less than 2 minutes.

Instant gratification ain't gratification if you get smoked in 15-20 minutes.

At least you can drink and get value out of a sports bet, you gotta look at it that way. And you might cash, too.

[GunShard]

There is no advantage over casino games.
That's why we cap sports instead.

[StackinGreen]

There is no advantage over casino games.
That's why we cap sports instead.

Should be preached from the mountain tops ...

[getlucky2win]

There is no advantage over casino games.
That's why we cap sports instead.

except it has been proven u can beat blackjack. and some say craps. but i bet u cant beat sports

[StackinGreen]

You definitely can beat sports. Unlike craps, it's theoretically even possible. Blackjack too.

The counting cards blackjack analogy though would be like saying "Sports can be beat if you know injuries about which no one else does."

[chipper]

Sports can be beat. BJ can be beat. Video Poker can be beat. The Race Book can be beat. Poker can be beat. Tournaments can be beat. However... dice, roulette, baccarat and all the other carnival games CANNOT be beat over the long run.

[Martinr]

My local casino has a great new version of Blackjack. They call it Blackjack Plus.
All the low limit BJ tables are now Blackjack Plus. It has this rule where the dealer gets 22 it's a push! I found out the hard way. I sat on (whatever it was), and the dealer hits and busts (22), he says Push. I said Wait, you've busted. He says no, new rules, and points to the rules on the side of the table. Sure enough, dealer gets 22 and it's a push.
Changes the house edge from 0.56 (99.44 back to the player with perfect strat) to 2.86 (97.14).
Only traditional blackjack was in the high limit rooms.
Look out Vegas, Blackjack Plus and other great variations are coming to a casino near you.

[zizoudane10]

My local casino has a great new version of Blackjack. They call it Blackjack Plus.
All the low limit BJ tables are now Blackjack Plus. It has this rule where the dealer gets 22 it's a push! I found out the hard way. I sat on (whatever it was), and the dealer hits and busts (22), he says Push. I said Wait, you've busted. He says no, new rules, and points to the rules on the side of the table. Sure enough, dealer gets 22 and it's a push.
Changes the house edge from 0.56 (99.44 back to the player with perfect strat) to 2.86 (97.14).
Only traditional blackjack was in the high limit rooms.
Look out Vegas, Blackjack Plus and other great variations are coming to a casino near you.

What's next? Plus-plus: you hit 21, you get half your stake back. Triple-plus: Dealer wins automatically with 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. (22 only a push, of course)?

[stefan084]

yeah we have something like that at the casino where I live, MaxVig Casino & Resort in PA. it's a version of blackjack called MaxHit blackjack. when you are first dealt your cards you have to have at least one face card. if not you get half your bet returned to you and the rest is lost and you start w/ a new hand. if you do have at least one face card you advance to level 2 where you must hit 3 times. if you still have under 21 and beat the dealer you get paid 2 to 1. it's pretty fun but I've never really won a lot yet. maybe next time

[eidolon]

Just bet $100 on 2 different numbers on roulette when you walk into the first casino.
You might be down $200, but that is nothing in Vegas. If you hit, well, that is a good fukkin story $3500

[chico2663]

They bar you from 12 losing, so quite simply, you are incorrect, Chico. Just sayin'

i also play the don't come line at same time. so what they don't let you bet 12. just a reroll

[chico2663]

If you roll a 2, 3 or 12 these are referred to as "craps" and it is pretty crap ... When you bet on the "Pass" line you're betting that the shooter will win. ... actual fact, the oddsare always 1.41% against the shooter and in favor of the "Don't Pass" ... point numberis established the casino will allow you to make another bet that will ...