[HeeeHAWWWW]

It would only have to be rigged to the point where the proof is inconclusive. Easy.

But what's been talked about here is a huge edge.

Even if they added 0.5% to their edge per hand through fiddling, it's easy to spot.

[Doug]

i think its fixed

[R3Sports]

Fixed.

[hawkeyes24]

If anyone doesnt believe that online blackjack is fixed, just ask any casino manager to give you any information on this DGS company that supposedly designed this software. You'd have better luck getting information about top secret cases from the CIA than getting any info on the so called company that designed this software

[BrianLaverty]

guys.. it is fixed.


I talked to someone from BetPhoenix the day after i lost 300 on there electronic casinos and the Customer Service guy told me to stay away. He said that the electronic casino is from a 3rd party and the software is designed to make you lose. He told me if I wanna play blackjack, use there live casino with an actual dealer.

[Peep]

guys.. it is fixed.


I talked to someone from BetPhoenix the day after i lost 300 on there electronic casinos and the Customer Service guy told me to stay away. He said that the electronic casino is from a 3rd party and the software is designed to make you lose. He told me if I wanna play blackjack, use there live casino with an actual dealer.

LOL.

They really need a customer service rep training program at BP. I would hate to own a company where I have to pay my own employees to bad mouth me.....

[RJbetphoenix]

That is not the case at all. Can you please name the rep. What would be the point of fixing software? You have the edge overall. Blowing out clients would never be worth it.

[landers781]

I have played online BJ alot.....had numerous losing sessions with one huge massive winning session earlier this year. The way the cards come out it seems like it could be, especially when you get that "server lag" that tends to happen right before a tough beat or streak of beats.

It could be fixed more like a lottery system...have a certain amount of winnings to a certain amount of losings...

[BrianLaverty]

That is not the case at all. Can you please name the rep. What would be the point of fixing software? You have the edge overall. Blowing out clients would never be worth it.

for one thing, im not gonna rat out a CS person who was just being honest with me.

Theres lots of points of fixing the software.....but like he said, it wasn't YOU guys that do that with the software, but its the 3rd party company that runs the live casino.


If we have the edge overall, why is it that the majority of people lose in online blackjack, when its close to even live?

And yes, blowing out clients would be worth it to you crooks..... people always come back, why do you think theres so many successful casinos out there?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Lots of people claiming crap on these sorts of threads, but the challenge is there: prove it. It's easy to do statistically. Go to wizardofodds or one of those sorts of sites.

[xxxvince]

Never, ever trust a computer program to deal, unless you programmed it.

dark horse said it the best!

[yokspot]

All online blackjack is almost certainly fair. After eight years of play, aside from one monumental 5 SD aberration, I've had fair results.

Last 10,580 hands at Betfair, -23 overall. House edge of 0.22%, about half expected.

[Ruifgalmeida]

go see wizardodds.com he tests all online casinos software, online casinos dont need to rig games they will keep your money anyway. is simple you will NEVER win on any casino game, but 99% of casinos gamblers think it is possible, the MIT blackjack first team whent bankrupt after a bad streak and they had a edge in the game,

[chemist]

Mugs always think the game is rigged (but keep playing anyway). In the case of casino games they're right, but it's in the design of the game, rarely in cheating.

[katstale]

Not gonna go into too much background here, but my first bankroll was built playing online BJ (albeit with bonus play). I have played literally tens of thousands of hands online. There are scam Bj software outfits and all the vets knew whose these were and stayed away. Couple guys mentioned WoO and he is the gold standard. Read his reviews and updates of software. If he says its ok software its ok software.

I can still remember playing at some "live" dealer place abt 5 years ago. The technology was so bad, the girls wore hot bikinis and they were terrible. Drop a big card on the floor and pick it up. laughable. i won there too!! lolol I will stick with the books unless someone wants to offer me a deposit 200 get 200 25XB WR. Then i am in. Those were the days.

[tltaylor89]

If you play with real people then you have an slight edge .I play the 21gnet software because real people are involveed in the play.But these Sportsbooks want you to play at their casinos so they put loopholes out to keep you from using the 3rd party.5dimes has a loophole whereby as if you use youre credit card they have the right to ban you from third party contests and shit.They actually did me a favoor even though I dont play in their casino

[Santo]

Not gonna go into too much background here, but my first bankroll was built playing online BJ (albeit with bonus play). I have played literally tens of thousands of hands online. There are scam Bj software outfits and all the vets knew whose these were and stayed away. Couple guys mentioned WoO and he is the gold standard. Read his reviews and updates of software. If he says its ok software its ok software.

I can still remember playing at some "live" dealer place abt 5 years ago. The technology was so bad, the girls wore hot bikinis and they were terrible. Drop a big card on the floor and pick it up. laughable. i won there too!! lolol I will stick with the books unless someone wants to offer me a deposit 200 get 200 25XB WR. Then i am in. Those were the days.

The "days" were 5 and 10x WR's, or even less on occasion :-)

[Coming Back!]

I lost $9,000 on online blackjack 2 years ago at Bodog. It was the dumbest thing I ever did in my life. I was an idiot and I learned my lesson. It's not legit, I don't care what anybody says

[adriandean1977]

i agree, the higher my bet, the dealer always gets two face cards and i get a 16 orthe dealer gets stright out 21 especially if your winning in your totals over the house i have learned the very painful and hard will never play online bj again i was playing single deck too i bet 100 chip dealer gets 21, i bet a $1 chip i get.bj

[brendon]

Total fraud. Stay away from online blackjack. I once lost 18 hands out of 20. Go to any real casino and see how often this happens. I also noticed that the higher you bet the increments in which you win a hand decrease!

i used to be to play 4-6 hours of blackjack a day. believe it or not, 18 hands win or lose in a row is not that uncommon.

[Hankwins]

Very streaky both ways. One thing that i think makes people think it's rigged is going on severe tilt and increasing bet size and the dealer streak gets hotter. I believe it's fairly legit becuase i've been up alot at almost every online casino at some point and nobody put a gun to my head and said keep playing or i'll shoot!

[Believeland]

I just learned the hard way on here with SBR's blackjack....... Once they let you win about 100 or so points run like hell. I was only betting the minimum everytime and they still took 200 points from me

[shoemoney]

From personal experience, the software seems to be designed to make you furious and put you on tilt.

On a bad run, how many times can the dealer draw 5 cards to 21, standing 20?

[King_Suckerman]

They don't need to rig it to make money. The house edge is already there.

[byronbb]

So you guys are whining about losing at a game you can't win at? Really??

[On the come]

I for one, do not believe it's rigged. The house edge is built in and there is no KILL button at the books disposal. Nobody is watching your play and nobody is judging your play either. People will play faster, more loose with their bets, and because they think it's rigged; often play poor strategy thinking they are beating the system.

To the people that say that you can win making smaller bets, but lose once you raise the stakes... I don't think anyone really believes this. If that were the case, why not just play more hands at smaller stakes? + money is + money.

[Hankwins]

It is very suspicious the amount of blackjack streaks the dealer goes on when you bet $100/hand. I bet if someone went with $100 played exactly 20 hands at $5 and then went to that casino in a seperate session with $2000 and played exactly 20 hands at $100. And test this 20 times. You'll find some serious hotter streaks for the dealer. in all of the $100 hand betting sessions.

[joey1963]

Variance is a killer in casino games including BJ. I would say some software may be rigged & some ain't. Only play at online casinos with money you can afford to lose as probably well over 90% of players will lose. With BJ the house has an edge of circa 0.5%, & this is when playing perfect strategy. This coupled to very streaky runs means the vast majority of players are gonna lose even in a non-rigged online casino.

[Kaabee]

They don't need to rig it to make money. The house edge is already there.

i know. it's not like any online casino would ever rig it in order to make EXTRA money.

[IntertopsLOL]

Once a month intertops mails me $100 for the casino for free. Only have to roll it over 60 times.. I can play video poker all day long for the first while.. ill be up and down within $25 of the $100 25 cent hands.. up and down up and down. Start to get bored of this eventually and its time to play something else but knowing I am eventually going to end up at the blackjack table... knowing that no matter what I have that I am leaving that table when I inevitably join that table within 30 seconds.. each and everytime. Its a comedy show. Not a casino. You know its coming. Its like watching a school bus fire. You cannot look away. Intertops could call you on the phone and tell you that they are going to beat you every single hand for all it could matter cause you still remember the last time you inevitably joined the blackjack table and you did not win a single hand then either depending on your wager amount.. whether I go in there with $40 and i bet $8 a hand or I just say penetrate them this month ill go straight to it and bet $25 the first hand, split double double anyone? 8-8 vs a 6? ?? either you end up with a 12 and a 14 and the dealer pulls that ACE or you are in the table that the dealer hits soft 17 and they give you 18 and 19 then they pull the 6-5-5-5 have a nice day! Are you mad sir? Are you cheesed? Thought you were going to get us with our own money? Are you some kind of jackoff sir? Would you like to bend over for us now or later? Please kindly direct your anger towards your escrow account and teach us a lesson! Beat us ! Teach us a lesson we wont forget! Bankrupt us ! We dare you. If you dont then we will get roberto alomar to spit in your face! That $100 is an illusion. Its just a hit for you junkies that thought you could forget about us.. heres a free hit! Welcome back sir! Thanks for your deposit. How may we bless you today? Sorry we doubted your manhood but we missed you and your free money. Even though we could win fairly its much more pleasureable and quick to steal your money at our crooked online casino! If we didnt then you may not get as frustrated as we have clinically tested to maximum efficiency to tilt you to the maximum possible cent that we can tilt you for!

That is your online blackjack for you right there folks. If you plan to play any of the games just realize that you only win at moments that you have been chemically implanted an idea in the future that you will win again.. There is no actual win though. It never happened. It doesn't exist. Never did!

Ill keep playing the $100 but you will never get my money

[Hankwins]

I played $20/hand at youwager and kept going back and fourth, i peeked at +500, i sat down with $200. I busted i redeemed my points loyalty points for $4, turned that into $100, then lost that on a football bet. anyway i it's streaky as hell and i probably fell in to that mindset the software detects bigger bets and goes cold but in reality it's just so fast and furious and painful to lose 2 grans in 30 seconds.

Moral of the story bet small and put the profits into sports bets. ( I need to take my own advise)

Greed is the biggest killer. I retract my concern software detects large bets ans hits the doom switch. bet $5/hand and the dealer hits 5 blackjacks and you're like damn, bet 100 a hand and dealer hits 5 bj's in a row ans you damn this is rigged.

[zizoudane10]

Always the same... Same thing with poker. You only see half the BS in a casino, because you only play half of the number of hands there. Case closed.

[pologq]

there is never a winning streak that rivals the losing streak that you go on. i bet heavier as i lose each hand and never catch up.

it feels like i always pull a 4 with a pic card or a 3 with a pic card, they pull a pic card, i hit and bust and they pull a 3. i don't hit and they pull another pic card for 20.

[loganhop]

I played some online BJ today. Used wizard of odds strategy for the game entirety. Bought in with 100 and played only 1 dollar per hand. Dealer had 23 blackjacks. I had 11. Dealer drew to 21 with 3 or more cards 29 times!!!!!!!! I did the same 9 times. Ran out of money in about 55 minutes. I'm trying to get them to email me the hand history to do a better analysis (I just started noting some things since I was losing so quick) but I've never seen anything like it. I was never up (over 100) and never won more than 2 or 3 hands in a row. I'm sure I lost at least 8 or 9. And as others have said, that proves nothing except that I was extremely unlucky. I've just never experienced such bad luck in a brick and mortar casino.

I will never play online again, I'll stick to poker and sports betting.

[lottowin]

just play on legit sites... but don't trust them too much. anything can be fixed these days...