[Killer_Demo]

I love rollin the bones and have made serious gain$ by setting dice before i throw and with a certian backswing 3 finger on front thumb in back. everybody has their superstitions in gambling and I certainly have mine here are my dice sets that I use 100% i never bet on a roll if I'm not rolling. also I only play right which means I pay less to make more instead of playing wrong or (the dont) paying double to win half. I play pass line and will play odds bet ONLY on 4 & 10 Here are my dice sets

4 & 10 (die 1, 6 on top, 4 facing you) (die 2, 4 on top, 6 facing you) now if you flip it back and look at the numbers around you have 4 and 10 inside and outside and over the top

5 & 9 (die 1, 5 on top, 4 facing you( (die 2, 4 on top, 5 facing you) now you if you flip it back you got 5 & 9 over the top and facing you

6 & 8 my favorite set or what i call the "flying v" (die 1, 3 on top, 5 facing you) (die 2, 3 on top, 1 facing you) now if you look at the 2 3's on top they are in a V patterson and if you flip it back you have 6 & 8 on all sides, inside and outside

7 & 11 (the come out set) (die 1, 6 on top, 3 facing you) (die 2, 1 on top, 4 facing you) now if you roll it back you got 7 & 11 on all sides, inside and outside)

[Mitchell88]

your shitting me right

[Killer_Demo]

your shitting me right

eat a dick this for real craps players not casino shit

[jarvol]

Just roll 'em hard and bet the don't

[Killer_Demo]

Just roll 'em hard and bet the don't

ya but playing dont kills your bankroll paying double to win half all the time

[TheCentaur]

ya but playing dont kills your bankroll paying double to win half all the time

The casino does it all day and they do ok. Cmon man!

As long as you are hitting the back wall setting dice is worthless. If you can sprinkle in a roll where one hits the back but the other falls short and slightly controlled about every 4 or 5 rolls ur in business.

[Al Masters]

[Killer_Demo]

The casino does it all day and they do ok. Cmon man!

As long as you are hitting the back wall setting dice is worthless. If you can sprinkle in a roll where one hits the back but the other falls short and slightly controlled about every 4 or 5 rolls ur in business.

who said i didnt hit the wall guy?

[ouman101]

Just a beginner, but what do you think of the world bet on the come out? Seems solid to me

[Mitchell88]

eat a dick this for real craps players not casino shit

sorry didnt know that vid was you

[Killer_Demo]

sorry didnt know that vid was you

lol i dont post videos you dipshit

[Mitchell88]

lol i dont post videos you dipshit

al masters posted you, i was joking anyhow

[Killer_Demo]

Just a beginner, but what do you think of the world bet on the come out? Seems solid to me

do u mean the firebet? because that shit is hard to hit but pays great 1000 to 1

[gauchojake]

Why play odds only on 4 and 10? I've never tried setting the dice but next trip to Vegas I'll give it a whirl.

[Bostongambler]

So you can control the way the dice land? Am I hearing what I'm hearing?

[tto827]

fukkin jiggaboo

[Killer_Demo]

Why play odds only on 4 and 10? I've never tried setting the dice but next trip to Vegas I'll give it a whirl.

4 and 10 odds bet are paid 2 to 1

[gauchojake]

4 and 10 odds bet are paid 2 to 1

I understand the payouts, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't take an odds bet on the other numbers with zero house edge? Most craps players I know will play max odds on every number.

[onacloud]

I understand the payouts, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't take an odds bet on the other numbers with zero house edge? Most craps players I know will play max odds on every number.

He also thinks he can control the dice

[Killer_Demo]

I understand the payouts, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't take an odds bet on the other numbers with zero house edge? Most craps players I know will play max odds on every number.

not worth it to me unless its 4 or 10...big payout i dont waste odds on numbers that dont pay back great like 6 and 8

[ElCapitan]

If you are not taking a bet where the house edge is 0, you are throwing money away long term.

Also, to the guy asking about the world bet, if it's so great why not bet it every roll? Why is the come out roll any different than any other roll in terms of probability?

[kfranz31]

world bet is usually a hedge to let ur hardways work on the come out roll//i dont like it though a waste of money

[Al Masters]

There is only way 1 to beat the game and hustle a few bucks MOST of the time,heres how.

Find a crap table with many players,trying to pick out the table where you see many Pass Line players.

Now once at the table make no bet,wait for the point to be established,once it has,look aroundto see whos not backing their pass line bet with ODDS,if all the few players around you are backing the point with odds this table is not for you...and leave.

However when you find a player or 2 not backing up with odds,just politely ask him if you cantake his odds bet,most won't mind,back it to the max or whatever your comfortable with do thisall day or a couple of hours and presto you will make a few bucks,unless of course the table
is SUPER cold.

To sumarize..If you can bet just the odds without putting up the original pass line bet,the game is beatable,but certainly not easy.
You must put in time and effort like a job..almost.

[TheCentaur]

So you can control the way the dice land? Am I hearing what I'm hearing?

If you take two dice and put them side by, then grasp them from the top and throw them to spin backwards, then theoretically you can increase the odds of certain numbers coming up.

I don't think it has any significance if you hit the back wall though, which they make sure you do

[gauchojake]

There is only way 1 to beat the game and hustle a few bucks MOST of the time,heres how.

Find a crap table with many players,trying to pick out the table where you see many Pass Line players.

Now once at the table make no bet,wait for the point to be established,once it has,look aroundto see whos not backing their pass line bet with ODDS,if all the few players around you are backing the point with odds this table is not for you...and leave.

However when you find a player or 2 not backing up with odds,just politely ask him if you cantake his odds bet,most won't mind,back it to the max or whatever your comfortable with do thisall day or a couple of hours and presto you will make a few bucks,unless of course the table
is SUPER cold.

To sumarize..If you can bet just the odds without putting up the original pass line bet,the game is beatable,but certainly not easy.
You must put in time and effort like a job..almost.

Great post. Are there any Las Vegas casinos that don't let you do this?

[ElCapitan]

If you take two dice and put them side by, then grasp them from the top and throw them to spin backwards, then theoretically you can increase the odds of certain numbers coming up.

I don't think it has any significance if you hit the back wall though, which they make sure you do

I believe it has been shown there there are maybe a handful of people in the entire world that can do this with enough precision to throw the odds in their favor over a large number of rolls.

[ElCapitan]

To sumarize..If you can bet just the odds without putting up the original pass line bet,the game is beatable,but certainly not easy.
You must put in time and effort like a job..almost.

You could also do this betting the don't. Same principle applies. The player absorbs the risk of the house edge on the initial pass/don't pass bet come out roll and you take the zero-edge odds bet.

[TheCentaur]

A lot of these strategies in this thread the boxman or pitboss will not let you do such as taking peoples odds. You would think they wouldnt care but they will put a stop to it

[Trident]

your shitting me right

I had to check the clalender to make sure it wasn't April fools day.

[DOM-Ganador]

I live in the DR with numerous casinos within minutes.
Once or twice a month me and a couple friends ( i.e.degenerates) hit the craps table.
The table , there is only 1, is never crowded anymore, unlike 10 years ago.
We all buy in for $3-500, with a minimum of about $5.
One night we all were losing our ass , even after a 2nd buy in.
Called my GF over to the table who never threw before.
We were all down to wood at the time.
She had the dice for almost an hour at which point she finally crapped out.
My buddies and me all cashed over 2 grand each.
It is absolutely the most fun you can have standing up.

[pulledclear]

not worth it to me unless its 4 or 10...big payout i dont waste odds on numbers that dont pay back great like 6 and 8

You sir are an IDIOT.

[pulledclear]

I believe it has been shown there there are maybe a handful of people in the entire world that can do this with enough precision to throw the odds in their favor over a large number of rolls.

WRONG. Jesus Christ where do you find these Idiots!

[MJT1212]

just a note...

that globe in the background of the jiggaboo video opens up into a sweet bar...

it also has 4 bottle slots on the bottom...

so fuking random that i just saw that thing for sale in a magazine today and now see it in the background of a jiggaboo video, i gotta get it!

[ElCapitan]

WRONG. Jesus Christ where do you find these Idiots!

Please elaborate because what I was saying was that is was next to impossible to do. Over a large sample size setting the dice is not going change the odds significantly in your favor.

[pokernut9999]

• Hard Way
• Easy Way
• Big 6 and Big 8
• Place Bets
• Lay and Buy
• Fire Bet

The whirl bet is sometimes known as the world bet in craps and they are the same exact thing. This bet consists of a combination of bets that includes the horn bet and the any seven bet. The horn bet itself is a combination of different bets in which you are wagering on the shooter rolling a 2, 3, 11 or 12. Any of these numbers wins the horn bet. The other part of the whirl bet is the any 7 wager. All you need to do there is get a seven.
This bet is interesting because the any seven bet serves as a type of hedge bet. For example, if the shooter rolls a 7, the player will win just as much as they would lose on the horn, essentially breaking even. The player would win a profit on the horn bet though, but not as much since they would lose some money on the 7 bet. The world bet is all about risk management.
The actual odds of winning the whirl bet are 2:1. The payout odds are a little more complicated though. If the shooter rolls a 2 or 12, the payout is 26:5. If the shooter rolls a 3 or 11, the payout is 11:5. If the shooter rolls a 7, the payout is 0:1, which results in a push and you get your money back. Overall, the total house edge ends up being 13.33%. So given how complicated this bet is, the house edge is pretty bad and not good for the player. Although, it depends on the rules of the casino. Some casinos allow a payout of 5:1 on sevens instead of 4:1, which would provide some major improvements in the odds.
I tried to display the whirl bet below in a screenshot. Unfortunately, this table does not have a horn bet spot on the craps proposition betting layout. So I put chips on all four numbers included in the horn bet (Otherwise you just need to put that stack of chips on the horn bet layout). Then I put some chips on the any seven spot. If you were at a land based casino, the dealer would probably know what a whirl or world bet is and they would just do everything automatically for you.