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    Lmao! At the superstitious people playing Baccarat.

    So I've been in Miami for a few days and every year I come over I go to the Hard Rock Seminole Casino.

    They don't have craps so I usually only play blackjack. I was getting my ass handed to me and around 3 a.m. I went with my last $100 chip to a baccarat table. I went on a crazy run and made all my money back within 20 minutes.

    I had forgotten how obsessed people get keeping track of the hands. They literally take like a minute looking at their stupid chart to decide what to bet. Do these people have no knowledge of probability or do their superstitious ways just cloud their otherwise logical minds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    So I've been in Miami for a few days and every year I come over I go to the Hard Rock Seminole Casino.

    They don't have craps so I usually only play blackjack. I was getting my ass handed to me and around 3 a.m. I went with my last $100 chip to a baccarat table. I went on a crazy run and made all my money back within 20 minutes.

    I had forgotten how obsessed people get keeping track of the hands. They literally take like a minute looking at their stupid chart to decide what to bet. Do these people have no knowledge of probability or do their superstitious ways just cloud their otherwise logical minds?
    You normally play craps and you think people who are playing Baccarat are superstitious? Craps players are ridiculous, you can't say seven, women are lucky, if someone wife comes up and asks how it goin, ect ect.

    Most people don't understand that past results don't indict future ones, but they honestly don't care. If they think that it will help them to win, let them. They look at you like your a dick when you try to explain it. People go to casinos to lose happily, that couldn't be concerned with odds any less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    You normally play craps and you think people who are playing Baccarat are superstitious? Craps players are ridiculous, you can't say seven, women are lucky, if someone wife comes up and asks how it goin, ect ect.

    Most people don't understand that past results don't indict future ones, but they honestly don't care. If they think that it will help them to win, let them. They look at you like your a dick when you try to explain it. People go to casinos to lose happily, that couldn't be concerned with odds any less.
    You are right on that one, craps players are the worst. But I was refering to the fact that they waste all that time keeping track and writing on their little card. Then they take forever to "analyze" their little chart before making the bet.

    I also get annoyed by craps players go take forever to roll because they think that by "setting" the dice they will avoid the 1/6 probability of rolling my moneymaker (I play the dark side).

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    good stuff guy

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    love hard rock seminole in hollywood

    my favorite casino

    been there maybe 8-10x to play blackjack and only left a loser once. very friendly cards in that place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    You are right on that one, craps players are the worst. But I was refering to the fact that they waste all that time keeping track and writing on their little card. Then they take forever to "analyze" their little chart before making the bet.

    I also get annoyed by craps players go take forever to roll because they think that by "setting" the dice they will avoid the 1/6 probability of rolling my moneymaker (I play the dark side).
    Have you never seen a logger at the craps table? Writing down every dice roll and playing both sides until they feel there is a conclusive pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    love hard rock seminole in hollywood

    my favorite casino

    been there maybe 8-10x to play blackjack and only left a loser once. very friendly cards in that place
    Lucky you Br0nxer, I usually get my ass beat. On top of that the fuckers make you buy the drinks.

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    how old are you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    You normally play craps and you think people who are playing Baccarat are superstitious? Craps players are ridiculous, you can't say seven, women are lucky, if someone wife comes up and asks how it goin, ect ect.

    Most people don't understand that past results don't indict future ones, but they honestly don't care. If they think that it will help them to win, let them. They look at you like your a dick when you try to explain it. People go to casinos to lose happily, that couldn't be concerned with odds any less.
    I agree, I fukkin hate when someone gives me the evil eye or says I can't sit down at a blackjack table because it will ruin their luck. Fuk you you don't own the damn casino if there is an open chair at the blackjack table I can sit there if I fukkin want to. It's not like I will affect anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    Have you never seen a logger at the craps table? Writing down every dice roll and playing both sides until they feel there is a conclusive pattern.
    I did at the Luxor Electronic Craps table(the craps machine game with the dice in the middle and no dealers/croupiers) and I wanted to call him an idiot but didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    Have you never seen a logger at the craps table? Writing down every dice roll and playing both sides until they feel there is a conclusive pattern.
    Never have. I didn't even know they do that shit. I usually get distracted by being entertained watching people play hard ways, and all sorts of props that carry a horrible house edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    Never have. I didn't even know they do that shit. I usually get distracted by being entertained watching people play had ways, and all sorts of props that carry a horrible house edge.
    When I used to go to West Virginia once every couple of weeks, there was this Indian guy who did that every time. He would sit there for two hours playing 10$ on pass and don't, writing every number down. I would cringe for him every time midnight was rolled on the come out

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    there is a white dude that plays blackjack with a black chick at the one in hollywood. they must be counting cards or doing something.

    every time i go they are there with a mountain of chips on the table

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    3 must know terms when playing baccarat


    1. Sanmian (sam-bean)
    2. gwai-lo
    3. Monkey okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by rake922 View Post
    how old are you
    30. How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    I agree, I fukkin hate when someone gives me the evil eye or says I can't sit down at a blackjack table because it will ruin their luck. Fuk you you don't own the damn casino if there is an open chair at the blackjack table I can sit there if I fukkin want to. It's not like I will affect anything
    That's another thing that annoys the shit our of me. People that get pissed if you come in mid-shoe, or if someone makes a bad decision. Then if the dealer ***** them, they blame it on the retard who split his 10's or other stupid play, but if they win, they don't say it was thanks to him.

    Worry about your hand. Anything that other people do is inconsequential to your long-term bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    3 must know terms when playing baccarat


    1. Sanmian (sam-bean)
    2. gwai-lo
    3. Monkey okay
    Okay, I'll learn them. What do they mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    Okay, I'll learn them. What do they mean?

    play a little longer u will find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    That's another thing that annoys the shit our of me. People that get pissed if you come in mid-shoe, or if someone makes a bad decision. Then if the dealer ***** them, they blame it on the retard who split his 10's or other stupid play, but if they win, they don't say it was thanks to him.

    Worry about your hand. Anything that other people do is inconsequential to your long-term bottom line.
    Yep, had a couple of guys at MGM Grand throw a hissy fit because I sat down at a chair at the $15 black jack table they were playing at. Then they tried to get the dealer/pit boss to get me to go away since they were "spending good money" at the table, good fukkin luck trying to get that kind of favor done for you playing at the lowest minimum table in the building. Heck I doubt they would even remove me at a high limit table, the casino is making more money with 4 guys sitting down playing over 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    Never have. I didn't even know they do that shit. I usually get distracted by being entertained watching people play hard ways, and all sorts of props that carry a horrible house edge.
    Me too. I've seen it all.

    I played against a couple who insisted that the best way to play blackjack was to assume the dealer had a 10 in the hole at all times. They kept saying "its better to go down swinging then to not try at all" as justification for hitting for example a 17 against a dealer 10. Freaking morons. It was also funny watching other people at the table listen to these idiots and employ the strategy as well. I tried to tell them that this strategy is awful and carries huge house edge but they insisted they were right. It was mildly entertaining to watch them erode away at their bankroll.

    I also played with another group of idiots who used the "never bust" strategy. They said its best if you don't bust at all and insisted this was the best way to play blackjack. Of course this story unfolded just like the story above.

    The worst ones though are the idiots who have no idea whats going on and win anyway. I had a bunch of black people probably straight out of the halfway house putting down money at the blackjack table one time and they had no idea how to play at all. So I helped them and told them what to do each hand and they kept winning and went on a huge winning streak as I kept losing. They could have at least gave me a chip or two as a thank you for helping them win all that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    Yep, had a couple of guys at MGM Grand throw a hissy fit because I sat down at a chair at the $15 black jack table they were playing at. Then they tried to get the dealer/pit boss to get me to go away since they were "spending good money" at the table, good fukkin luck trying to get that kind of favor done for you playing at the lowest minimum table in the building. Heck I doubt they would even remove me at a high limit table, the casino is making more money with 4 guys sitting down playing over 3.
    What a pair of retards lol. I usually don't play blackjack anymore unless there are no craps available, but when I used to play nothing but BJ I remember people like that. Out of respect for their disability I would always try to come in at the start of a new shoe.

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    Basically the only game in the casino where keeping track by the player is the norm, but I think that's a ploy by the casino mainly to keep it interesting because it's such a boring uneventful game

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    Me too. I've seen it all.

    I played against a couple who insisted that the best way to play blackjack was to assume the dealer had a 10 in the hole at all times. They kept saying "its better to go down swinging then to not try at all" as justification for hitting for example a 17 against a dealer 10. Freaking morons. It was also funny watching other people at the table listen to these idiots and employ the strategy as well. I tried to tell them that this strategy is awful and carries huge house edge but they insisted they were right. It was mildly entertaining to watch them erode away at their bankroll.

    I also played with another group of idiots who used the "never bust" strategy. They said its best if you don't bust at all and insisted this was the best way to play blackjack. Of course this story unfolded just like the story above.

    The worst ones though are the idiots who have no idea whats going on and win anyway. I had a bunch of black people probably straight out of the halfway house putting down money at the blackjack table one time and they had no idea how to play at all. So I helped them and told them what to do each hand and they kept winning and went on a huge winning streak as I kept losing. They could have at least gave me a chip or two as a thank you for helping them win all that money.
    Your third paragraph contained enough information to figure out that you didn't get shit for your help. I'll be surprised if they even thanked you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    What a pair of retards lol. I usually don't play blackjack anymore unless there are no craps available, but when I used to play nothing but BJ I remember people like that. Out of respect for their disability I would always try to come in at the start of a new shoe.
    These same guys were giving me a hard time for surrendering, splitting 3s against a dealer 6 and hitting a 15 against a dealer 10 since I was sitting at 3rd base. They had no idea what basic strategy was or how to play. No matter what move I made they used the move as an excuse for their losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    Your third paragraph contained enough information to figure out that you didn't get shit for your help. I'll be surprised if they even thanked you.
    It was at a $10 table. It was one older black guy about 50 years old who looked to be a recovering crack addict and homeless(was wearing dirty attire and looked like he hadn't showered in months). Then he had a group of about 4 friends(probably his halfway home room mates) with him watching. They claimed none of them knew how to play black jack and none of them knew what to do, so the dealer had to explain the rules. Since they saw me win a couple hands they just told me to tell them what to do so I said OK. After that they won what had to have been 20 hands in a row including a couple of splits, blackjacks, and double downs. They started with $50 and it was at $300 in no time. Meanwhile I went from $500 to $350 during this span. They probably took all they won and flushed it down the drain via slot machine after I got up or spent it on more crack.

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    asians are always all over these tables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheme82 View Post
    Your third paragraph contained enough information to figure out that you didn't get shit for your help.
    He said they didn't give him anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    You normally play craps and you think people who are playing Baccarat are superstitious? Craps players are ridiculous, you can't say seven, women are lucky, if someone wife comes up and asks how it goin, ect ect.
    Truth.

    I only play the don't pass line and one time I was playing and this guy freaked out every time I leaned over the table just a little bit. How the hell he developed the habit of freaking out about a player leaning over the table I will never know.
    Some of these people truly have issues. I usually just get drunk and just start yelling for a 7 if I am at a table with locals playing numbers/pass line. You don't always win playing the don't pass obviously, but if you avoid hot shooters hitting 7s on the come out you will make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post

    ...but if you avoid hot shooters hitting 7s on the come out you will make money.

    how do we do that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    play a little longer u will find out.
    lmfao... and du ma

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    Charts are important as far as Bacarrat is concerned

    It's best game to win

    It's why it's also biggest money game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    Truth.

    I only play the don't pass line and one time I was playing and this guy freaked out every time I leaned over the table just a little bit. How the hell he developed the habit of freaking out about a player leaning over the table I will never know.
    Some of these people truly have issues. I usually just get drunk and just start yelling for a 7 if I am at a table with locals playing numbers/pass line. You don't always win playing the don't pass obviously, but if you avoid hot shooters hitting 7s on the come out you will make money.
    The dark side is the way to go. Better odds playing the don't pass and laying odds than the other way around. I also like the fact that unlike pass line bettors, there is no number that completely kills you (7). Instead when you have money on all the numbers and the shooter sevens out, you get a big-ass train of chips coming your way. I even make the Choo-Choo sound and people get pissed lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    People go to casinos to lose happily, that couldn't be concerned with odds any less.
    oh so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctr View Post
    asians are always all over these tables
    Exactly, aren't they supposed to be smart? They obviously are because some of them live in the ******* casinos so they must have businesses to fund their habit. I don't understand how a smart person can be superstitious. These fuckers could write a book with the amount of time they spend filling out and looking at their shitty "tracker". And on top of that the fuckers take forever to place their bets because they are supposedly trying to find a pattern. And because they are usually betting heavy, the dealers wait on their ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    play a little longer u will find out.
    #1 some Chinese lady tried to explain to me but her English was bad so she confused the **** out of me. From what I understood she said something about it meaning 3 something. Which applies for when the players 3rd. card is a 6, 7, or 8. If you lift the card a little bit on the long end, you will see 3 of something (hearts, spades, diamonds, or clubs) and that means the card is a 6, 7, or 8. So that affects wether the dealer will give the banker a 3rd. card or not.

    #2 I still don't know

    #3 was pretty obvious from playing BJ when they have and ace they want a "monkey" (10) so that they can get a natural. So for baccarat when de player has a low total, and you are playing banker and have them beat, you want the player's 3rd. card to be a 10 (so that their total doesn't change). Monkey okay.

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