Boyz I'm betting Sanchez and I feel very comfortable doing so. I am very happy he is a dog. But I'm unsure if now is the time to bet him or if you think the line will move against him even more. What do you guys seeing this line doing?
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02-28-11 02:21 AM #1
Kampmann v. Sanchez
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02-28-11 06:03 AM #2
I might be too late but perhaps best to take Sanchez now if ur gonna take him! Kampmann is down to -135 on Pinnacle now. Although Kampmann may get a lot of action nearer fight time. Do you think Sanchez can finish Kampmann? I'd be more inclined to take Sanchez by decision if you're gonna play him at all...Combination of Sanchez's lack of finishing ability, Kampmann's superior grappling, size, and reasonably solid chin (only man to stay standing after taking Semtex left hooks) makes it difficult for me to envisage a stoppage!
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02-28-11 06:20 AM #3
or Kampmann wilts under Sanchez's relentless pace, which I think could easily happen. Late round stoppage or decision for Sanchez. Hoping I can get a good line on this fight completes 2 rounds.
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02-28-11 06:42 AM #4
Well, it's -225 to go the distance on paddypower, I expect it will be very similar if not worse on 5dimes/Sportbet.
Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish
And yeah, Sanchez's pace and grit could be the deciding factor. Just depends on which Kampmann shows up and whether he makes the right decisions.
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02-28-11 07:15 AM #5
I think this is more how I envision it. Just not sure Kampann has what it takes to stop a focused Sanchezs GNP but we'll see. Plus he's back with Jackson and it really showed in the last fight. Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish
Thanks for the input guys
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02-28-11 08:23 AM #6
The only chance Sanchez has is to go for a quick takedown and stay there the entire fight because if he stands I'm fairly confident he's getting knocked out. Honestly I don't see any scenario in which he wins this fight unless kampmann gasses and diego can just out point him
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02-28-11 09:08 AM #7
I see a boring wrestling match. Decision prop is the way to go.
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02-28-11 09:10 AM #8
Indeed, decision prop is the one, but I dont think it will necessarily be boring! Originally Posted by ttrace35
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02-28-11 09:16 AM #9
I see canchez not even attempting to trade punches. He will try to lay on kampy the whole fight.
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02-28-11 10:35 AM #10
Canchez.
I'm taking Sanchez as the dog also.
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02-28-11 02:19 PM #11
I'm also liking sanchez in this fight
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02-28-11 02:27 PM #12
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Diego take a decision here, I cant bet against Kampmann after seeing how he dealt with P.Thiago (a lot more comfortably than Diego did), Volkmann (who has superior grappling to Sanchez), and Condit. He only tends to struggle with heavy hitters and guys who have a considerable size and grappling advantage over him (Daley, Marquardt and at least in terms of size and grappling Shields). I'd also like to think tht the Shields loss will serve as an eye opener that he needs to keep to a strategy better and push the pace more, he could of won tht fight against Shields after Jake gassed but for poor gameplanning.
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02-28-11 03:29 PM #13
Originally Posted by Vaughany
i admire kampmann because he`s quite good at so many things....stand-up/grappling/subs.....as v. indicated,imo,he has trouble with size and power...or somebody that is elite in one facet of their game...
the one thing that bugs me about kampmann is the slow starts...he`s one of those guys that liked to feel his way into a fight...if he gets jumped on early,he can be stopped...or dig himself a large enough hole that it makes winning difficult....
and it wouldn`t surprise me one bit to see sanchez come running out of the corner to try and put kampmann on his back right out of the shute.....
it`s good to be relaxed in there...but some guys are just too fricking relaxed..kampmann is one of those guys...paricularly early...he doesn`t likre to be pushed early.....and it`s hurt him in big fights....
i think kampmann is a better all around fighter...but sanchez` pace will cause him some grief....in a 3 round fight,you can`t afford to snooze too long...
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02-28-11 03:37 PM #14
Yep great points and exactly why I wont be betting on Kampmann either! I'd expect that Greg Jackson has also noticed this and will tell Diego to set a great pace early and look for the takedown as soon as possible in order to get the first round under their belt. Originally Posted by rocky mattioli
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02-28-11 05:09 PM #15
Kampmann is bigger and better. Diego's got nothing for him. Shields, even though he wasn't himself in that fight, is still way better than diego. But this fight is definitely going to decision, which means anything could happen.
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02-28-11 05:31 PM #16
I jumped on Sanchez when this line first opened at +140.
Kampann is a good, very well rounded fighter but I have Sanchez stealing rounds due to his tenacity and aggression.
If the same Sanchez that fight Paulo Thiago comes to the Octagon this week I have Sanchez winning rather convincingly.
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02-28-11 05:38 PM #17
The is down to Kampmann -150 at some places (5dimes,bodog,sportsbook) I wonder if the line goes down more? Should be interesting
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02-28-11 05:38 PM #18
Two inconsistent fighters makes it very hard to predict.
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02-28-11 06:03 PM #19
I guess the risk of sanchez stealing a decision is high. Ill just take the decision prop.
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02-28-11 09:32 PM #20
They're broadcasting this in 3D.
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02-28-11 11:12 PM #21
Tough fight to call probably best to pass. Have a feeling Diego pulls it out though.
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03-01-11 08:12 AM #22
Well I'm betting Diego for sure I was just curious what you guys thought about potential line movement. I have a feeling after each of their last fights Sanchez will likely close at around +110 but. Guess I betta get on it
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03-01-11 10:23 AM #23
what are the chances kampmann can Stuff Deigo's takedowns? Clear advantage to Kampmann on the feet.
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03-01-11 10:34 AM #24
and how long will his cardio hold up? I think that and can Kampmann keep it on the feet are the two best questions to answer.
Crystal clear advantage on the feet to Kampmann
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03-01-11 10:34 AM #25
im rewatching some of kampmanns ufc bouts... he fights slow im talkin slow , i wonder if Diegos pace is going to be a factor... I think so Diego is going to push kampmann out of his slow style i think, may gas Kampmann out he wont be in his comfort zone at his pace. I'd be shocked if diego fought as slow as kampmann.
Last edited by teaserpleaser; 03-01-11 at 10:38 AM.
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03-01-11 10:38 AM #26
Yep, Diego is going to wear Kampmann down after spamming takedowns, clinching etc, even if Kampmann's sprawl holds up, eventually Diego is going to tire Kampmann out. Well that is how I see the fight going. Originally Posted by teaserpleaser
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03-01-11 10:41 AM #27
Yeah i think he'll get that takedown and gas him if he pushes the pace. I think im talking my self into Diego going to watch some more film on Kampmann. Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish
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03-02-11 12:36 PM #28
On sherdog's website they have the fight preview and predictions.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...-Preview-30450
the writer predicts a narrow Sanchez victory for the exact same reasons I did.
Kampmann is a good fighter but like I said earlier...at times he doesn't fight with a sense of urgency which is precisely what cost him in his fight with Shields. (I still felt he won that one)
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03-02-11 02:48 PM #29
very even fight. taking the sanchise tho
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03-02-11 02:54 PM #30
yep taking sanchez im confident in it too.
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03-02-11 03:02 PM #31
Odds dropped to +120 for Sanchez...the odds makers are seeing the flaws in their original estimation
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03-02-11 04:11 PM #32
kampmann is a sloooow starter...he`s vulnerable early....but i never felt like he had any cardio issues....
he needs to watch penn`s fight with sanchez....penn is a much smaller man than kampmann...yet he stuffed pretty much every takedown...and pretty much manhandled sanchez...
sanchez is a bulldog..but he is what he is...his stand-up is lacking,imo....he has to close distance and make this close combat....
if he can do that,he has a chance...if not,he might get taken apart at some point...kampmann looked bigger at the weigh-in...
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03-02-11 04:12 PM #33
Palhares at -155 now through 5dimes... damn did something come out that I don't know about? I'm thinking about putting down another couple units at that price.
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03-02-11 04:27 PM #34
No, Diego sanchez won the ultimate fighter and has a lot of dumb fans who throw their money away on him. Paulo thiago (who got thoroughly handled by Kampmann) was beating Sanchez until he gassed. Sanchez skillset is non existant and he's dumb as bricks. If Kampmann got the decision he deserved against Shields, his odds would be much steeper. Do you remember the Hathaway fight? Originally Posted by Boddhissatva
The fact that this fight is being considered close shows how bad the "sport" has become and how awful the judging is. Its becoming point fighting like boxing. As far as fighting abilities, its not even close. Sanchez might be able to "score" points by holding him against the cage. But if they were to actually "fight" instead of stall, Kampmann wins everytime.
Lets bet betpoints. Ive got 350 points on Kampmann if anyone wants em.
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03-02-11 04:30 PM #35
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