[ttrace35]

Still waiting on that book from squareguy.

[jacktheknife]

good thing for Shogun it's not a wrestling match.

Worse for him (and you) it's not a Muay Thai match.

And he hasn't got a ring to corner guys in.

And that you can't train reach.

And he doesn't have Greg Jackson in his corner.

And he's coming off of an injury.

And that for all the supposed memory of Pride fans, they've seemed to have blocked out one of the most monumental examples of pathetic victory in MMA. I don't think Pat Berry or Hershel Walker would give up their most embarrassing wins for Shogun's W over Mark.

[Eccocide]

I wonder what those 2 would give up to essentially beat the supposed best fighter of the new era in their division twice in a row. That Machida era didnt last too long did it? Talk about selective memory.

[ttrace35]

Still waiting for squareguys book. I like to bet heavy occasionally. Can somebody help me with finding a book that will take a bet over $350?

[sirchadwick1]

Still waiting for squareguys book. I like to bet heavy occasionally. Can somebody help me with finding a book that will take a bet over $350?

Are you wanting to make a big play on Shogun? If you do, please post it.
And jacktheknife we're thinking on the same page.
Also, Shogun has only subbed one man in his entire career. I think he's going to have to KO Bones to win.
Definitely a lot of good discussion in this thread... I see everyone is ready for this one!

[ttrace35]

Are you wanting to make a big play on Shogun? If you do, please post it.

Absolutely. Lookin to do 4 or 5. Will post before the fight. Waiting for more noobs to drive the line more in my favor. I put my money where my mouth is. Not just talk. I see great value in this bet. Squareguy said he dropped 850. Would love to see that ticket.

[sirchadwick1]

Agreed, would love to see it also. You rarely see anyone post their bets.
Sometimes I almost believe guys come on multiple forums saying "Bet the house on -insert fighter here-" just to drive the line down so they can bet on the other guy... lol.

[Glitch]

bones by stoppage.

[ttrace35]

Agreed, would love to see it also. You rarely see anyone post their bets.
Sometimes I almost believe guys come on multiple forums saying "Bet the house on -insert fighter here-" just to drive the line down so they can bet on the other guy... lol.

Yea. Especially when most books have limits on mma betting.

[Pauulzcappin]

Wrong guy favored here.

[Squareguy]

Ok kool man. No beef. What book do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

Sorry, hadn't checked back on the thread. That bet was placed with bodog at -170 I believe, to win 500. And yes, I've been told it's a square book, but they were easy to deposit into.

If you are looking to bet Shogun, they will let it go up to 500, if Bones, max is 1,000 currently.

[lasker]

Wrong guy favored here.

[Squareguy]

Absolutely. Lookin to do 4 or 5. Will post before the fight. Waiting for more noobs to drive the line more in my favor. I put my money where my mouth is. Not just talk. I see great value in this bet. Squareguy said he dropped 850. Would love to see that ticket.

My usual uploader is down, if you have one that I don't have to register for, I can show you it...

[ttrace35]

My usual uploader is down, if you have one that I don't have to register for, I can show you it...

Post if you want. Its not that serious for me. I didn't kno bodog went that high on limits, but I heard bad things so I will stay away. If I'm hell bent on loading up, I will spread around a few books. Will post my ticket/s before the fight. Good Luck

[PingPong]

shogun via kneebar

[jgilmartin]

Really excited for this fight. Wouldn't be surprised by any outcome, honestly.

[mightyminnow]

Worse for him (and you) it's not a Muay Thai match.

And he hasn't got a ring to corner guys in.

And that you can't train reach.

And he doesn't have Greg Jackson in his corner.

And he's coming off of an injury.

And that for all the supposed memory of Pride fans, they've seemed to have blocked out one of the most monumental examples of pathetic victory in MMA. I don't think Pat Berry or Hershel Walker would give up their most embarrassing wins for Shogun's W over Mark.

wrong

? you think Jones will be dancing?

training with JDS

Shoguns mma experience > Jackson cornering

legit concern

irrelevant hater BS

[SweatySombrero]

jones is gona break some bones

[King Mayan]

jones is gona break some bones

The same way he broke bones when he fought all those cans

[the_situation]

Jones will probably win but I can't back him at those odds

[Vaughany]

jones is gona break some bones

O yeah all the time

[Vaughany]

Jones will probably win but I can't back him at those odds

[jacktheknife]

wrong

? you think Jones will be dancing?

training with JDS

Shoguns mma experience > Jackson cornering

legit concern

irrelevant hater BS

You're right, man, pure striking beats pure grappling with greater frequency.

I believe the term is circling, and yes.

"77 wingspan JDS? Oh, you facetious rouge, you.

I don't remember Shogun's 8-1 experience being touted as winning him the Pride GP, but a fat lot of good it did for Matyushenko, or Rampage, or Frank Mir, or Chris Leben, or Matt Hughes twice, or Chuck Liddell twice, or Gomi twice.

Not the least of his concerns either.

Lol hater bs, huh? Sure thing, man, Coleman fight never happened. And Machida beat him legit, too. And fairy dust keeps getting in Koscheck's eye.

[omalley21]

If the odds come back down, Ill fly out to vegas to bet Jones.

Ecco- You dont think Jones wouldve beaten Machida twice? easily?

Jones is gonna get side control, pin shoguns arm in a crucifix and elbow him repeatedly. Shogun better be working on submissions while being trapped against the cage.

[ttrace35]

If the odds come back down, Ill fly out to vegas to bet Jones.

Ecco- You dont think Jones wouldve beaten Machida twice? easily?

Jones is gonna get side control, pin shoguns arm in a crucifix and elbow him repeatedly. Shogun better be working on submissions while being trapped against the cage.

Really? I could understand the love for Jones. Guy has been a beast. But, I never seen so many people lining up to bet against a guy who only has 1 legit loss in 8 years.

[Pabinator]

Its gonna be a great night when they fight!

[mightyminnow]

You're right, man, pure striking beats pure grappling with greater frequency.

I believe the term is circling, and yes.

"77 wingspan JDS? Oh, you facetious rouge, you.

I don't remember Shogun's 8-1 experience being touted as winning him the Pride GP, but a fat lot of good it did for Matyushenko, or Rampage, or Frank Mir, or Chris Leben, or Matt Hughes twice, or Chuck Liddell twice, or Gomi twice.

Not the least of his concerns either.

Lol hater bs, huh? Sure thing, man, Coleman fight never happened. And Machida beat him legit, too. And fairy dust keeps getting in Koscheck's eye.

no dancing is the term for you, you savage

[FLO31]

I still can't believe Jon Jones is favored in this fight... and I love Jon Jones, been supporting him for along time now, and I knew he would dominate Bader, but this is a completely different level of competition in my opinion. I say the pride legend takes this one, shogun is still only 29 and has plenty left in him and will prove he's the best light heavyweight in the world..

[ttrace35]

I still can't believe Jon Jones is favored in this fight... and I love Jon Jones, been supporting him for along time now, and I knew he would dominate Bader, but this is a completely different level of competition in my opinion. I say the pride legend takes this one, shogun is still only 29 and has plenty left in him and will prove he's the best light heavyweight in the world..

I agree. But these geniuses are comparing him with 90 year old Fedor.

[bracerman]

I still can't believe Jon Jones is favored in this fight... and I love Jon Jones, been supporting him for along time now, and I knew he would dominate Bader, but this is a completely different level of competition in my opinion. I say the pride legend takes this one, shogun is still only 29 and has plenty left in him and will prove he's the best light heavyweight in the world..

Shogun is still young, beaten a who's who in the weight class and is the current champ.

I understand a close line or maybe Jones a small favorite, but Shogun +175 is silly.

[Vrakas]

shogun will have a tough time with jones.jones will take the fight to the ground.

[Eccocide]

If the odds come back down, Ill fly out to vegas to bet Jones. Ecco- You dont think Jones wouldve beaten Machida twice? easily? Jones is gonna get side control, pin shoguns arm in a crucifix and elbow him repeatedly. Shogun better be working on submissions while being trapped against the cage.

Machida is a terrible matchup for Jones, maybe the worst in the LHW division IMO.

[omalley21]

Machida is a terrible matchup for Jones, maybe the worst in the LHW division IMO.

I disagree. They will fight soon enough. We shall see. Jones will be -500 or so.

[Eccocide]

I disagree. They will fight soon enough. We shall see. Jones will be -500 or so.

-500 vs. Machida?? Jones has almost reached Rickson Gracie status on this board.

[ttrace35]

-500 vs. Machida?? Jones has almost reached Rickson Gracie status on this board.

Pretty funny. Big shot is gonna fly to vegas for this one too.