1. 11-23-10 11:22 PM #1
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    StrikeForce: Henderson Vs Babalu Dec 4th

    Location: St. Louis, Missouri
    Venue: Scottrade Center
    Broadcast: Showtime

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    Dan Henderson vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral
    Herschel Walker vs. Scott Carson
    Paul Daley vs. Scott Smith
    Robbie Lawler vs. Matt Lindland
    Antonio Silvavs. Valentijn Overeem

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    Jesse Finney vs. TBA
    Fernando Bettega vs. Wayne Phillips
    Justin Lawrence vs. Max Martytniouk
    Terrell Brown vs. Patrick Cummins
    Lee Brousseau vs. Mike Glenn
    Ben Brown vs. J.W. Wright

    No odds out as of yet, its on the same night as the Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale
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  2. 11-24-10 01:11 AM #2
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    I am really interested in watching the paul daley and scott smith fight....someone will be laid out in this fight
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  3. 11-24-10 02:24 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by raidersfan View Post
    I am really interested in watching the paul daley and scott smith fight....someone will be laid out in this fight
    Most likely Smith. It should be a great fight though.
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  4. 11-24-10 03:58 AM #4
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    All but these two fights should be easy picks:
    Dan Henderson vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral
    Robbie Lawler vs. Matt Lindland
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  5. 11-24-10 04:58 AM #5
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    Id take Sobral at +200 but I expect he'll be close to +150. Id take Daley at anything better than -200 I think. Daley is not only more technical but also more powerful, also Smith is going to be having a grueling cut to get down to 170 for the first time in a while and this may effect his own power and of course cardio. Daley appears to have had a great camp and is looking in great shape judging from photos posted on facebook by Dean "The Renegade" Amasinger recently!
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  6. 11-24-10 05:45 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Id take Sobral at +200 but I expect he'll be close to +150. Id take Daley at anything better than -200 I think. Daley is not only more technical but also more powerful, also Smith is going to be having a grueling cut to get down to 170 for the first time in a while and this may effect his own power and of course cardio. Daley appears to have had a great camp and is looking in great shape judging from photos posted on facebook by Dean "The Renegade" Amasinger recently!
    My guess is Daley will open at -400, or more. It should be an easy win for him. All he would have to do is focus on the body and Scott Smith is done. According to Smith, the 170 cut is easy for him. http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Lea...th-Daley-28354
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  7. 11-24-10 07:25 AM #7
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    i love this card..... more then likely depending on odds i'll take a flyer on alistars brother, lindland and hendo
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  8. 11-24-10 01:54 PM #8
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    looks like a good card, im probably gonna bet on daley and hendo
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  9. 11-24-10 04:36 PM #9
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    "Herschel Walker sustained a deep cut under his left eye that required multiple stitches while training Monday at American Kickboxing Academy in San Jose, Calif., and will not be able to fight on Saturday, Dec. 4, at Scottrade Center in St. Louis"

    http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/24/1...rd-in-st-louis
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  10. 11-26-10 01:12 PM #10
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    Paul Daley is having issues! Latest facebook status:
    "Has had a not so good few days, will be in the UK longer than expected, back up to Notts and continue final prep. We r still on for Dec 4th."

    He was supposed to be in USA yesterday.
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  11. 11-27-10 03:48 AM #11
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    Paul Daley is currently still stuck in England due to travel issues (presumably the snow over here) and wont be arriving in St. Louis till next week which is not ideal. He was supposed to arrive in LA last week and then have a week training in Temecula with Team Quest, but will obviously have to go straight to St. Louis now. Be interesting to see what effect this has on him and possibly on his weight-cut which he's had problems with previously!
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  12. 11-28-10 09:04 AM #12
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    Valentijn Overeem, older brother of Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem has suffered an undisclosed injury and will no longer be fighting Antonio Silva at Strikeforce: "Henderson vs Babalu"

    http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/27/1...tonio-silva-at
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  13. 11-28-10 09:21 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Valentijn Overeem, older brother of Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem has suffered an undisclosed injury and will no longer be fighting Antonio Silva at Strikeforce: "Henderson vs Babalu"

    http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/27/1...tonio-silva-at
    First Walker, now Overeem...just gets better for Strikeforce! TUF Finale will surely get higher viewing figures!
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  14. 11-28-10 10:28 AM #14
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    Wanted to see that Overeem fight. Too bad.
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  15. 11-28-10 10:53 AM #15
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    I am disappointed with that news. I was liking bigfoot big time in that matchup, only fight I was looking forward to betting unless hendo has a reasonable line.
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  16. 11-28-10 10:57 AM #16
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    Benji Radach is on the card as well (late notice).
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  17. 11-28-10 10:59 AM #17
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    thats like almost half the fighters are out of action.hopefully the remaining ones will be ready
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  18. 11-29-10 02:36 AM #18
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    The latest two injured fighters stripped from the card are irrelevant anyway, no big loss. It should still be an entertaining card.
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  19. 11-29-10 01:48 PM #19
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    Mike Kyle is replacing Overeem.
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  20. 11-29-10 02:42 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by urge2kill View Post
    Mike Kyle is replacing Overeem.
    He's going to get killed. I would have preferred for if they got Daniel Cormier to replace him.
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  21. 11-29-10 07:45 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogbat View Post
    He's going to get killed. I would have preferred for if they got Daniel Cormier to replace him.
    Better fight then the one with Overeem. Wonder how Silva will adjust in less then a week to an AKA staple who's only loss in his last 10 fights is to Werdum.
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  22. 11-29-10 08:41 PM #22
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    Silv/Kyle is probably a better fight
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  23. 11-29-10 11:07 PM #23
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    i like daley and henderson.gl.
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  24. 11-29-10 11:22 PM #24
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    Dan Henderson vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral- dan by decision
    Paul Daley vs. Scott Smith- daley first round ko
    Robbie Lawler vs. Matt Lindland- robbie lawler 2nd round ko
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  25. 11-30-10 12:23 PM #25
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    Add Benji Radach vs Ovince St. Preux at 205lbs! Radach is a middleweight but hasn't fought since being KO'd by Scott Smith in last year. He is stepping on a weeks notice and is so out of shape that he's fighting at 205! St. Preux meanwhile only fought 3 weeks ago in a three-rounder against Britt.
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  26. 12-01-10 12:43 PM #26
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    St Preux +130 on bookmaker....go big on it people!
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  27. 12-01-10 12:51 PM #27
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    I just don't see how Babalu takes Hendo.

    And Paul Daley should murder Scott Smith, but so should have Manhoef... and Daley is stuck in England at the moment and doesn't sound like he'll get his last minute prep at Team Quest as planned, so I dunno 'bout that one.


    St Preux line is interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    St Preux +130 on bookmaker....go big on it people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Educ8d Degener8 View Post
    I just don't see how Babalu takes Hendo.

    And Paul Daley should murder Scott Smith, but so should have Manhoef... and Daley is stuck in England at the moment and doesn't sound like he'll get his last minute prep at Team Quest as planned, so I dunno 'bout that one.


    St Preux line is interesting...
    Daley arrived in St Louis yesterday, but yes he's missed the planned camp with Team Quest.

    No way Preux should be the dog IMO.
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  30. 12-01-10 01:09 PM #30
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    St Preux already down to Evens. Gonna be a great opportunity for an arb if anybody got him at +130.
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  31. 12-01-10 01:56 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Educ8d Degener8 View Post
    And Paul Daley should murder Scott Smith, but so should have Manhoef...
    You're confusing Smith with Lawler. But so should have Sell, Radach, and Le!
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    Dan Henderson -245
    Renato Sobral +195

    Paul daley -360
    Scott Smith +290

    Matt Lindland +125
    Robbie Lawler -155

    Antonio Silva -400
    Mike Kyle +300

    Benji Radach -115
    Ovince ST. Prreux -115
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  33. 12-01-10 06:15 PM #33
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    scott smith will be a good test for daley.this fight will probably end in the first round.
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  34. 12-01-10 06:25 PM #34
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    still no odds up at 5dimes
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  35. 12-01-10 06:52 PM #35
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    lawler -155 looks solid, lindland is 40 and hasnt looked very good lately
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