UFC 126 silva vs belfort 2/5

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  • Oli
    SBR Hustler
    • 11-17-10
    • 81

    #36
    best of luck this week
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    • Jordan23
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      • 04-26-10
      • 1227

      #37
      This is an amazing card. Really can't wait for it!
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      • Shane
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        • 02-28-10
        • 466

        #38
        Hard to ignore the value of Bader at +300. Wow.
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        • Pride>UFC
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          • 11-09-09
          • 1013

          #39
          Originally posted by doubleleg
          Silva is a level above Belfort in striking I think.
          Key word: think
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          • Pride>UFC
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            • 11-09-09
            • 1013

            #40
            Originally posted by Jordan23
            This is an amazing card. Really can't wait for it!
            for once the UFC might actually deliver
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            • Vrakas
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-27-10
              • 627

              #41
              ryan bader will surprise many people.jones will be surprised himself when he feels the bader punch.look for jones to be running scared during the fight.
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              • Kaladarus
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-09
                • 1876

                #42
                Originally posted by Vrakas
                ryan bader will surprise many people.jones will be surprised himself when he feels the bader punch.look for jones to be running scared during the fight.
                Jones will need more than his typical break dance fighting style to win this fight.
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                • Chairib
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-08-10
                  • 917

                  #43
                  Brake dance fighting style. That's an interesting way of describing his style.
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #44
                    Sportsbook have released Yamamoto vs Johnson lines....great value in Johnson at +225 IMO. I think should be closer to evens. Would jump on tht now if I had Sportsbook.
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                    • Pride>UFC
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                      • 11-09-09
                      • 1013

                      #45
                      Originally posted by cky312
                      Loving the matchup for Rich, he generally only has trouble with fighters quicker than him (Anderson and Vitor in recent memory, lost to Hendo was controversial). Don't think Forrest has what it takes to drag Rich to the ground, and I don't see Forrest winning the stand up.
                      Yeah that fight was really controversial, I mean Franklin got his ass kicked two out of three rounds and they still had the nerve to give the fight to Hendo
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                        Sportsbook have released Yamamoto vs Johnson lines....great value in Johnson at +225 IMO. I think should be closer to evens. Would jump on tht now if I had Sportsbook.
                        Johnson now +185
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                        • lasker
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                          • 01-27-10
                          • 1683

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Pride>UFC
                          Yeah that fight was really controversial, I mean Franklin got his ass kicked two out of three rounds and they still had the nerve to give the fight to Hendo
                          yeah he really kicked Franklin's ass in that fight. I mean, if by kicking Franklin's ass you're saying the only real damage Hendo inflicted was the result of an accidental head clash, then yeah, Hendo definitely kicked his ass.

                          There was only one round in that fight where one fighter even came close to dominating, and it wasn't the first or second round, either...
                          Last edited by lasker; 01-06-11, 04:02 PM.
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                          • Vaughany
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                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #48
                            Originally posted by lasker
                            yeah he really kicked Franklin's ass in that fight. I mean, if by kicking Franklin's ass you're saying the only real damage Hendo inflicted was the result of an accidental head clash, then yeah, Hendo definitely kicked his ass.

                            There was only one round in that fight where one fighter even came close to dominating, and it wasn't the first or second round, either...
                            haha yes Franklin got his ass kicked...hilarious! Hendo's best moves in that fight were a head clash and a poke in the eye yet was somehow enough to win him the fight!
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                            • The HOFF
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-02-08
                              • 4847

                              #49
                              Vitor Belfort Parts Ways With Trainer Shawn Tompkins Ahead of UFC 126



                              Vitor Belfort has worked with striking coach Shawn Tompkins since mid-2008, when Belfort first walked into the gym of longtime rival Randy Couture in hopes of training with him.

                              The union between coach and fighter has been productive. Belfort earned three knockouts in three fights while under Tompkins' watch. But with Belfort in the midst of preparation for the biggest match of his career - a UFC 126 title shot against champ Anderson Silva - the partnership is apparently over.

                              On the Tuesday edition of The Fight Show with Mauro Ranallo, Tompkins briefly addressed the situation, as well as the recent story that Belfort was training with former boxing great Mike Tyson.

                              "Well, you know, Vitor's done this before. Vitor sometimes, he gets a little clouded in his head," Tompkins said. "It's not that he brought in Mike Tyson or anything like that. Vitor just wanders, you know, and he goes where what's happening, what's famous, what's popular and he'll go over there. Mike Tyson isn't teaching him anything. Neither is the other eight gyms that he's training at. Just because he's over at Couture's and not with me doesn't mean he's with Couture. Vitor isn't loyal to anybody. We've seen it before."

                              The middleweight star hasn't fought since a Sept. 2009 knockout over Rich Franklin at UFC 103.

                              Since then, two dates with divisional champion Silva have been postponed by injuries. Belfort and Tompkins were still working together in the fall of 2010, but now, Belfort's gone in another direction, much to the chagrin of his former trainer.

                              "I hope for the best for him, but you know, for a guy who told me about respect, loyalty, and God and all this stuff for so many years, he sure did prove the opposite," Tompkins said. "So, we'll see. Best of luck to him. Best of luck to Anderson, as well."

                              Belfort is reportedly training his striking under Xtreme Couture coach Gil Martinez, a well-respected trainer who most recently prepared Gray Maynard for his title shot against Frankie Edgar.


                              *There goes Pride>UFC's lock of century.
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                              • kiefynugs
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-20-10
                                • 572

                                #50
                                Yamamoto is down to -142 at bookmaker. I'm pulling the trigger. Johnson is too small to wrestle with kid and doesn't have any advantage in the striking department.

                                The huge line changes for this have me worried though.
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #51
                                  ha After Thiago Silva, Bones is now having beef with Aaron Simpson!...

                                  Simpson on twitter:

                                  "I don't think jon jones has any idea what he is getting into with Bader. I hope he is up for it."

                                  Jon Jones reply:

                                  "Didn't you lose your last 2 fights? Please don't piss me off, I actually have respect for ryan. Don't you have a fight scheduled? Focus on yourself instead of weather I'm ready or not? Are you familiar with the strike policy in baseball?

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                                  • kiefynugs
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-20-10
                                    • 572

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    ha After Thiago Silva, Bones is now having beef with Aaron Simpson!...

                                    Simpson on twitter:

                                    "I don't think jon jones has any idea what he is getting into with Bader. I hope he is up for it."

                                    Jon Jones reply:

                                    "Didn't you lose your last 2 fights? Please don't piss me off, I actually have respect for ryan. Don't you have a fight scheduled? Focus on yourself instead of weather I'm ready or not? Are you familiar with the strike policy in baseball?


                                    haha Jones is flying off the handle a little. I think he'd make a good TUF coach someday but don't see him getting that belt. At least not for some time...
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                                    • Poppa Catfish
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-22-10
                                      • 3352

                                      #53
                                      I agree with kiefy, Jones is a monster but he still looks awfully raw with his stand up. I think he has some humble pie coming his way fairly soon.
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                                      • NinjaShoes
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 01-27-11
                                        • 93

                                        #54
                                        Jones is a beast! True that he has really yet to be tested, but he is so young and has so much raw talent that its a GUARANTEE he will be champ one day. Maybe even move up to heavyweight at some point too since he is a huge 205er.
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                                        • brad89
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-19-10
                                          • 424

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by NinjaShoes
                                          Jones is a beast! True that he has really yet to be tested, but he is so young and has so much raw talent that its a GUARANTEE he will be champ one day. Maybe even move up to heavyweight at some point too since he is a huge 205er.
                                          I think I remember him saying in a recent interview he would be willing to fight some of the "smaller" HW's. Who knows where he will end up in a few years though
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                                          • Vaughany
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                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #56
                                            For any fans of statistics out there, FightMetric has Bader as having the best "Significant strike defence" at 78.7% in the UFC, more than 4% higher than Okami, Edgar and GSP!...
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                                            • Vrakas
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 02-27-10
                                              • 627

                                              #57
                                              griffin is out of luck it seems to me that in the past when fighters faced griffin they were always very relaxed.when fighters take him serious like silva and evans they distroyed him.franklin will finish this fight.
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                                              • Riot
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                                                • 04-16-09
                                                • 437

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                Jon Jones reply:

                                                "Didn't you lose your last 2 fights? Please don't piss me off, I actually have respect for ryan. Don't you have a fight scheduled? Focus on yourself instead of weather I'm ready or not? Are you familiar with the strike policy in baseball?

                                                Its spelled whether. Take that Jon Jones
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Riot
                                                  Its spelled whether. Take that Jon Jones
                                                  ha yeah I was expecting Simpson to reply with a smart-ass answer like tht!
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                                                  • kiefynugs
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-20-10
                                                    • 572

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Vrakas
                                                    griffin is out of luck it seems to me that in the past when fighters faced griffin they were always very relaxed.when fighters take him serious like silva and evans they distroyed him.franklin will finish this fight.
                                                    I guess that's why his books are so funny. Forrest Griffin's Achilles heel is to be taken seriously. Bravo
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                                                    • kiefynugs
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-20-10
                                                      • 572

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                      For any fans of statistics out there, FightMetric has Bader as having the best "Significant strike defence" at 78.7% in the UFC, more than 4% higher than Okami, Edgar and GSP!...
                                                      http://fightmetric.com/ufcrecords.html

                                                      I've got some money on Bader for this next one but I still find this suprising. Rogerio was most definitely peppering him with some decent shots...
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                                                      • JC2008
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                                                        • 02-27-08
                                                        • 2258

                                                        #62
                                                        Bader has value for sure but Jones should get the nod. Hard to not take underdogs in the UFC as of late.
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                                                        • kiefynugs
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-20-10
                                                          • 572

                                                          #63
                                                          Jones has better length and can strike from top position but thats about the only thing he has going for him in this fight. Very different grappling styles but one isn't necessarily better. I think Bader is the better striker but we'll see.

                                                          Jones has no value because he's too hyped.
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                                                          • omalley21
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 908

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by kiefynugs
                                                            Jones has better length and can strike from top position but thats about the only thing he has going for him in this fight. Very different grappling styles but one isn't necessarily better. I think Bader is the better striker but we'll see.

                                                            Jones has no value because he's too hyped.
                                                            I disagree. Jones is so hyped that there is oppurtunity. Jones by decision has more value because everyone thinks hes gonna finish bader.
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                                                            • lasker
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-27-10
                                                              • 1683

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by omalley21
                                                              I disagree. Jones is so hyped that there is oppurtunity. Jones by decision has more value because everyone thinks hes gonna finish bader.
                                                              Agreed. I'm also going with that rather than the perceived value in Bader.
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                                                              • The HOFF
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                                                                • 07-02-08
                                                                • 4847

                                                                #66
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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by omalley21
                                                                  I disagree. Jones is so hyped that there is oppurtunity. Jones by decision has more value because everyone thinks hes gonna finish bader.
                                                                  I agree, I took Jones by decision at +400.
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                                                                  • ayuntalo
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                                                                    • 08-01-10
                                                                    • 1692

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Franklin looks gold against forest
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                                                                    • brad89
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                                                                      • 06-19-10
                                                                      • 424

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Getting close now!!!
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                                                                      • kiefynugs
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                                                                        • 11-20-10
                                                                        • 572

                                                                        #70
                                                                        lol am i the only one with money on bader?
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