Brock vs cain

**sirchadwick1** · 07-06-10, 07:04 AM

I think Brock will win this and should be at around -140 or so again. People will be a little more cautious betting on him after his last showing... but if we've learned anything it's that Brock learns quickly from his mistakes and constantly improves. Seeing him weather the storm against a beast like Carwin to pull off a sub in the 2nd was amazing in my eyes...especially after that layoff/surgery. Now that he's past the diverticulitis holding him back... it's only uphill from here for him. It's really hard for me to bet against Brock until he fights JDS.

**squallsquall** · 07-06-10, 10:45 AM

I think Cain will open at +200. Might offer some value.

**JuicedUp** · 07-07-10, 01:03 PM

looks like we are going to have to wait a little longer for this one. Brock vs Cain off 119.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/19845/dana-white-rules-out-brock-lesnar-vs-cain-velasquez-as-ufc-119-headliner.mma

**Jrod124** · 07-07-10, 01:14 PM

Brock by 2nd round KO

**brooks85** · 07-07-10, 04:02 PM

brock -125
cain-105

**JuicedUp** · 07-07-10, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

brock -125
cain-105

Damn I was hoping the books would underestimate Cain. That line is sharp.

**brooks85** · 07-07-10, 04:15 PM

its bs if this fight doesnt happen at 119 because it prolly will not happen at 121 either, thats in germany.

**squallsquall** · 07-08-10, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

brock -125
cain-105

What book? That's a LOT of juice.

**Varker** · 07-08-10, 03:28 AM

Not sure if Cain has the power to put away Brock.

**sirchadwick1** · 07-08-10, 06:02 AM

Brock is already at -145 after a day.... I really wanted to make a play on him at -125, but now I think I'm going to hold off to get value on Cain. If Cain hits +150 or so it's going to be hard to resist.

**JuicedUp** · 07-08-10, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by squallsquall

What book? That's a LOT of juice.

I believe that's bodog.

**squallsquall** · 07-08-10, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by JuicedUp

I believe that's bodog.

That explains it

**Ryangene** · 07-08-10, 12:34 PM

I'll take Lesner bets all day long if someone wants Cain at +150 I'd give it to them. He won't win. God is in Brock's corner!

**vassman86** · 07-08-10, 02:21 PM

Brock will continue to use brute force until he develops better techniques on the ground. But his stand-up needs a lot of work. Cain's boxing is much more crisp than Carwin's. I think if Cain unloads a combo or two, he'll put Brock away.

**JuicedUp** · 07-08-10, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Ryangene

I'll take Lesner bets all day long if someone wants Cain at +150 I'd give it to them. He won't win. God is in Brock's corner!

Why don't you make a new thread with a special line at +150 for Cain. I'm sure you would get some action.

**Ryangene** · 07-08-10, 11:06 PM

Not a bad idea... Thanks for the advice... once this gets closer will be something i will do.. Should have did for Fedor when i told everyone whom said he was the "best pound for pound" fighter out there he'd lose too.

**JuicedUp** · 07-08-10, 11:17 PM

Yea you would have cleaned up on that Fedor fight.

**Chairib** · 07-09-10, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by vassman86

Brock will continue to use brute force until he develops better techniques on the ground. But his stand-up needs a lot of work. Cain's boxing is much more crisp than Carwin's. I think if Cain unloads a combo or two, he'll put Brock away.

Better techniques on the ground? It's not like Brock didn't tap him with a head and arm choke.

**JuicedUp** · 07-09-10, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

its bs if this fight doesnt happen at 119 because it prolly will not happen at 121 either, thats in germany.

now they may do 121 in California, this has to be where they are doing the brock vs cain fight.

**squallsquall** · 07-09-10, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Ryangene

Not a bad idea... Thanks for the advice... once this gets closer will be something i will do.. Should have did for Fedor when i told everyone whom said he was the "best pound for pound" fighter out there he'd lose too.

Hehe. I'm sure you didn't say anything before his thirty-some wins and then suddenly, before this very match, you predicted him losing for the first time?

**SweatySombrero** · 07-09-10, 09:44 PM

I think Brock wipes the floor with Cain...

o yeah. all the time

**JuicedUp** · 07-09-10, 10:24 PM

Brock Lesnar Vs Cain Velasquez signed for UFC 121.

Brock Lesnar, Cain Velasquez Agree to Fight at UFC 121

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/07/09/brock-lesnar-vs-cain-velasquez-signed-for-ufc-121/

Brock Lesnar will make his next title defense against Cain Velasquez at UFC 121. UFC president Dana White confirmed with MMA Fighting Friday night that the heavyweight title fight will take place...

**Dirty Sanchez** · 07-09-10, 11:09 PM

Both of them are too big to go 5 rounds...if Brock gets his weight on Cain he'll wear down just like Mir and Carwin did. Coming off a near death experience and 11 months out of the cage he did pretty well.

**JuicedUp** · 07-09-10, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

Both of them are too big to go 5 rounds...

you think Cain is to big to go 5 Dirty? Have you seen him fight before?

**sportsfanatic** · 07-10-10, 03:14 AM

can't wait for the odds for this one.

**squallsquall** · 07-10-10, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

can't wait for the odds for this one.

Weren't they already up on Bodog?

**Kaladarus** · 07-10-10, 09:40 AM

Cain can go for 15 rounds if he has to. This guy is a machine. The further the fight goes into later rounds, the better Cain's chances of winning.

**JuicedUp** · 07-10-10, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by squallsquall

Weren't they already up on Bodog?

Yes they are up at a few places now.

Bestfightodds.com

**MarlinsFan2212** · 07-10-10, 02:13 PM

Wouldnt bet against Brock.

**Tree Rollins** · 07-10-10, 02:17 PM

Cain should be smart enough to know that his gas tank might be his biggest weapon in this fight. Getting into those late rounds however, is a big IF.

**Dirty Sanchez** · 07-10-10, 02:31 PM

Juiced I agree Cain wins the stamina battle as his wrestling would be his biggest asset, but IF Lesnar begins to lean on him or passes his guard I don't care how much stamina he has...it won't go 5.

**Ryangene** · 07-10-10, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by squallsquall

Hehe. I'm sure you didn't say anything before his thirty-some wins and then suddenly, before this very match, you predicted him losing for the first time?

wrong take a look around and you were wrong. He got to big headed when he didnt want to fight real fighters in the UFC. He is a punk and will be broke just a few years after he is done with fighting

**jin2daj** · 07-10-10, 05:02 PM

cain has a chance... but its a smaaaaaaall chance.

**JuicedUp** · 07-10-10, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

Juiced I agree Cain wins the stamina battle as his wrestling would be his biggest asset, but IF Lesnar begins to lean on him or passes his guard I don't care how much stamina he has...it won't go 5.

can't argue with that, man.

**KenardRage** · 07-10-10, 07:20 PM

I think Lesnar would win every time vs cain i think it just showed last fight vs carwin how rusty lesnar was after he get's his feet back under him he's gonna be unstoppable in my opinion