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DREAM.13 - Mar 22, 2010
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Venue: Yokohama Arena
Broadcast: HDNet (North America)
Champ Bibiano Fernandes vs. Joachim Hansen (for DREAM featherweight title)
Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs. Katsunori Kikuno
Andre "Dida" Amade vs. K.J. Noons
Ryo Chonan vs. Andrews Nakahara
Jimmy Ambriz vs. Ikuhisa Minowa
Any lines? Over at Bookmaker they aren't available at this time. Curious on that Fernandes/Hansen line in particular.
Minowa once again proving why he is P4P ...
I am fairly interested in seeing Dida vs Noons line , actually all fights but Minowa one .
who cares about these Asian cans overseas?
nothin as of yet. books are always slow to get lines for the smaller fight orgsOriginally Posted by Fiasco01
lot of good matchups and not that bad of a card either. minowa is always a tough sell. always fighting somebody thats 3x his size
bad ass fight poster
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jim ambriz is still around??
minowa has been a cashcow for me and i plan on making it a 4th time.
I think oddsmakers are now aware of the favoritism he gets from the DREAM refs.
are we not allowed to edit posts after a certain time period
but it looks like dream added josh barnett to the card, as well as another bout between cole escovedo and yoshiro maeda
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Gonna keep an eye out for the lines... got my alerts set
I dunno -- I need to review some Dida fights. He's on a three fight L streak but those three losses are: Cavalcante, Alvarez and Kikuno... so he may end up having some value depending on the odds.
Really interested in the KJ fight, as this could set him back up to fight Nick Diaz eventually down the road.
Dream 13 odds now up, and loving Bibiano @ +105
hansen's take down defense looked pathetic against aoki
Noons is a better striker than those 3 IMO, and Dida prefers to strike. I really like Noons at -215, as he he will be more accurate and quicker than Dida, who tends to throw wild bombs. Noons will be bobbing and weaving those all day.Gonna keep an eye out for the lines... got my alerts set
I dunno -- I need to review some Dida fights. He's on a three fight L streak but those three losses are: Cavalcante, Alvarez and Kikuno... so he may end up having some value depending on the odds.
It looks pathetic in every recent Hansen fight that I've seen. He can hold his own on the ground but that's a recipe for a decision loss against Bibiando IMO.
Wouldn't bet big either way, as Bibiando tends to tire late, Hansen's KO power, and since Hansen is a fan favorite in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some ref/judge favoritism a la Minowaman. Bibiando has gotten screwed before in Japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFXI2...eature=related
I made a small play on Bibiando...I'd be shocked if lines offered +115 or better on either fighter, lines will probably stay close to even.
yessir, but I believe its on early Monday morning, starting at 3:00 am:
If I was a champion I'd pull a MMA marathon with UFC Versus/Dream 13, but If I want to keep my job I'll follow DREAM play by play at work.
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bibiano fernandes +115
joachim hansen -145
siala siliga +600
josh barnett -1100
cole escovedo +195
yoshiro maeda -245
kuniyoshi hironaka +167
katsunori kikuno -207
andre dida amade +175
kj noons -215
andrews nakahara -115
ryo chonan -115
I do!!!who cares about these Asian cans overseas?
Like this play. Bibiano has moved to +115. I'll just see if it keeps moving and grab him close to fight time.
47828674-13/21/10 6:07pm$20.00$35.00
Pending3/22/10 3:00am Dream Fighting 7251 Cole Escovedo +175* vs Yoshiro Maeda
47828654-13/21/10 6:07pm$20.00$25.90
Pending3 Team Parlay
Pending3/22/10 3:00am Dream Fighting 7052 Katsunori Kikuno -215* vs Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Pending3/22/10 3:00am Dream Fighting 7102 KJ Noons -225* vs Andre Amade
Pending3/22/10 3:00am Dream Fighting 7302 Josh Barnett -1200* vs Siala Siliga
47827151-13/21/10 5:57pm$30.00$20.70
Pending3/22/10 3:00am Dream Fighting 7002 Joachim Hansen -145* vs Bibiano Fernandes
guess i wont be able to cash in on another minowa sub
yeah i was going to pound that line if it came out.
imagine if sbr book carried full mma cards... buried
Smart man, Bibi is the man and will win this fight by submission forsure.
x < -200: 5-0 100%
-200 ≤ x < EVEN: 6-3 67%
EVEN ≤ x ≤ +200: 2-3-1 40%
+200 < x: 0-1 0%
2010 YTD since posting: $0 +/- UFC on Versus Results TBD
DREAM 13:
I found out sportsbook never offered Minowa at +200...it was a typo on BFO.
KJ Noons 2u to win .83u (-240 via sportsbook)
Noons has been racking up professional boxing wins and is making his return to MMA. He has always had decent takedown defense, but Andre Dida has always preferred to strike. Dida tends to swing wildly looking for the killer punch. He was able to drop Alvarez and Kikuno but he couldn't not finish them, and ended up losing both matches.
Like Noons has good head movement and is good at staying in the pocket as punches come towards him. I think there's a much better chance that Noons out-strikes Dida with technique and head movement compared to Dida landing a knockout blow. Even at the current odds, I think Noons still has a little value (you can get him for a better price at -215 at Bookmaker), while it's a high-risk-low-reward-situation betting Andre Dida at less than 2-1 odds.
Bibiando Fernandez .75u to win .68u (-110 via sportsbook)
I made a play on Bibiando Fernandez but I regret doing so at this odds. The current odds are a lot more favorable (Bibiando is +120 on 5dimes and may get better). Hansen has consistently been wrestled or tossed to the ground and this falls right into Bibiando's gameplan. Bibiando's striking isn't the greatest but since Hansen is comfortable on the ground, I think most of the match will take place on the mat. Bibiando has quick transitions and was skilled enough to take Urijah Faber's back.
I do not recommend a big play due to Bibiando's lacking gas tank, possible ref/judge favoritism towards Hansen, and the chance of a Hansen KO. But I believe there's zero chance Bibiando gets subbed and I like Bibiando's chances for a dec/sub win.
not only did I rush the play on an inferior line, but I also wish I bet .5u and not .75u. If I was more patient I would have made a .5u play on the +120 line.
hansen is no slouch on the ground either. if he gets taken down he has a good chance to hold his own, enough to escape and get back to his feet.
hansen dropping from 155 to 145 can easily ko bibiando
Can't wait for the Noons fight!
Bibiano Fernandes retains title, Josh Barnett and K.J. Noons victorious at DREAM.13
by Steven Marrocco on Mar 22, 2010 at 9:35 am ET
Bibiano Fernandes edged Joachim Hansen to retain his DREAM featherweight championship, and Josh Barnett picked up his first win in 14 months with a submission victory over Siala-Mou "Mighty Mo" Siligia at today's DREAM.13 event.
The show took place at Yokohama Arena in Yokohama, Japan, and aired live in North America on HDNet.
Other winners from the seven-fight lineup included K.J. Noons, Cole Escovedo and Ikuhisa Minowa.
It wasn't a spectacular affair, but Fernandes (8-2 MMA, 5-0 DREAM) did just enough to retain his belt against a game Hansen (19-9-1 MMA, 3-3 DREAM).
Fernandes, a decorated jiu-jitsu competitor, baited Hansen into advancing with a series of low kicks. When Hansen obliged, he quickly took the action to the ground. Hansen, however, wouldn't let Fernandes do much once there and quickly scrambled, and he was never in danger of being submitted.
Hansen tried desperately to corner Fernandes and land his straight right, but the Brazilian blocked most of the shots and returned fire with right hand hooks. The shots stopped Hansen in his path and forced him to reset.
As the bout progressed, Hansen grew bolder with his strikes and caught Fernandes flush on several occasions. None of the punches, though, were powerful enough to rattle the champion. Neither fighter went for broke during the course of the fight, and most of the exchanges did not move beyond two or three strikes.
In the end, Fernandes' ground work appeared to be the deciding factor in the fight. Two judges gave him the decision win while one judge dissented in Hansen's favor.
In his first MMA fight since a canceled bid to knock off top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko in January 2009, Barnett (25-5 MMA, 1-0 DREAM) stopped Siala-Mou "Mighty Mo" Siligia (3-2 MMA, 0-1 DREAM) in a bout broken into two halves by an inadvertent low kick.
Barnett chose to stand early in the bout and paid for it almost immediately. A low kick brought a Siligia counter hook that dropped Barnett on his butt. He sprang up and charged into a tie-up, but when the action stalled against the ropes, the two were separated and back in the center of the ring.
There, Barnett called on his recent Savate kickboxing work and attacked a Siligia kick with a kick of his own. The shot hit Siligia squarely in the groin and immediately dropped him to the canvas. Siligia lay on the canvas for some time as DREAM officials gathered around him. The former kickboxer could be heard moaning in pain, and later, arguing with those who asked him to continue the fight.
"That's the hardest I've ever been kicked in the balls in my entire life," Siligia said.
For several moments, it looked like the fight would be called off. At one point, Barnett came over to Siligia's corner and begged him to continue only to be waved off by officials. But after a long spell on his ring chair, "Mighty Mo" made his way back to his feet and resumed the bout. It was clear, though, that his heart was no longer in the fight.
When Barnett eventually got the action down, he hadn't even started cranking on a kimura before Siligia tapped out.
As both fighters' camps streamed into the ring, Barnett offered an immediate apology and gave Siligia a free shot to his groin, and Siligia quickly obliged.
In other action, former EliteXC lightweight champion Noons (8-2 MMA, 1-0 DREAM) stalked his way to a decision victory over Chute Boxe's Andre "Dida" Amade (6-4-1 MMA, 0-3 DREAM).
Throughout the fight the former champion became more and more desperate to engage as Amada continued to backpedal. Frustrated, Noons got a little too loose late in the fight and nearly got caught by Amade's knees. But he bobbed and weaved out of most trouble, and he kept control of the fight to take the clear-cut decision victory.
Former WEC featherweight champion Escovedo's comeback trail, meanwhile, took a huge step forward in a highlight reel performance against veteran Yoshiro Maeda. After Maeda (26-8-2 MMA, 2-2 DREAM) charged in with a flurry of punches and flying knee, Escovedo (16-4 MMA, 1-0 DREAM) returned fire with a right inside leg kick that buckled Maeda forward. In a flash, Escovedo followed with a left high kick that slapped Maeda's jaw. Maeda was out from the second the blow landed and crashed to the canvas. Escovedo's follow-up punch on the prone Maeda was an un-needed bonus.
In an open-weight bout, DREAM Super Hulk Tournament winner Minowa (45-30-8 MMA, 4-3 DREAM), giving up nearly 80 pounds to American journeyman Jimmy Ambriz (14-13-1 MMA, 0-2 DREAM), felt the size deficit from the get-go. He took but a few seconds to shoot in for a takedown and wound up on his back eating punches as his hulking opponent nimbly passed guard.
That seemed okay to Minowa, though, because Ambriz did little from top position other than fire off short punches to the side of his head and dump him to the mat when he stood up. Only a referee's yellow card cramped his style. Ambriz had a brief ray of light in an arm triangle attempt from the top, but that was about it.
When the fight went back to its feet, Ambriz appeared to be a punch away from expiring. Minowa nearly helped him there with a strong lead left hook, but after several flurries, neither man finished the fight before the first round expired.
Ambriz remembered to wrestle in the second round and mounted Minowa with ease. But his bulk made a reversal easy for the red-trunked fighter, and Minowa wasted little time in diving for a toehold. Ambriz quickly succumbed to the lock late in the round.
Official DREAM.13 results included:
- Bibiano Fernandes def. Joachim Hansen via split decision (retains DREAM featherweight title)
- Josh Barnett def. Siala-Mou "Mighty Mo" Siligia via submission (kimura) - Round 1, 4:41
- K.J. Noons def. Andre Amade via unanimous decision
- Ryo Chonan def. Andrews Nakahara via unanimous decision
- Cole Escovedo def. Yoshiro Maeda via KO (head kick) - Round 1, 2:29
- Katsunori Kikuno def. Kuniyoshi Hironaka via KO (strikes) - Round 1, 1:26
- Ikuhisa Minowa def. Jimmy Ambriz via submission (toe hold) - Round 2, 2:42
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The Escovedo head kick is pretty nasty.
no kidding. food connected perfectly with his chin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YinJA...layer_embedded
2010 YTD
x < -200: 5-0 100%
-200 = x < EVEN: 8-3 73%
EVEN = x = +200: 2-3-1 40%
+200 < x: 0-1 0%
DREAM 13: +1.51u
2010 YTD since posting: 1.51u + UFC on Versus Results
I wasn't able to watch the full event yet, and with so much MMA coming up I probably will hold off watching for a couple weeks.
Some quick thoughts:
Noons/Dida: Dida was completely outclassed on the feet. Noons had much faster hands and was more active. Dida never got off his backwards bicycle.
Bibiando/Hansen: Bibiando fared better in the striking department then I originally thought. Bibiando's takedowns were a factor although he wasn't able to do much with them. I think the real reason Bibiando won was that Hansen didn't do enough to "defeat the champion". Would have been a shame if Hansen won IMO.
Another sub victory added for minowa, which in his last 10 wins Minowa did not need the refs, all subs or KOs
only favoritism he gets, if any, is from the matchmaker
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