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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    Do you see any way that Stipe wins outside of a decision?
    Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 10 minutes?
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    Fixed it--- Who you on Hugo----Stipe for me all the way....Ngannou just not well rounded enough for me...
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 3.5 minutes?

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    I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge
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    Takedown and G+P ===otherwise NO.....Stipe is smart...I don't see him messing with Francis for a solid 3- 4 minutes....
    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    Do you see any way that Stipe wins outside of a decision?

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    Love it
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge
    Maybe hedge solely with KO/TKO just to be more effective also Nganou still had lil bit of energy in R2 last time. Maybe add R3 there too assuming the improvements, will probably pace himself better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 10 minutes?
    Stipe by Dec and by Sub best value. Ngannou gave his back once or twice if I remember correctly. What's the odds for Stipe by Sub? Should be insane.

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    Ooh aaah Stipe even attempted and armbar in the early going

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Fixed it--- Who you on Hugo----Stipe for me all the way....Ngannou just not well rounded enough for me...
    Stipe the dog what are we missing here considering the dominant win in the first fight? Don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Maybe hedge solely with KO/TKO just to be more effective also Nganou still had lil bit of energy in R2 last time. Maybe add R3 there too assuming the improvements, will probably pace himself better.
    I'm seeing (-105) on that. Not enough value to take it was a hedge imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I'm seeing (-105) on that. Not enough value to take it was a hedge imo.
    Yeah I meant the individual early rounds and method (exclude the sub)

    Not entire fight. -105 is for the entire fight right? That's complete crap odds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Stipe the dog what are we missing here considering the dominant win in the first fight? Don't understand.
    - He's only fought one opponent since, even if it was three times against the same person. Cormier looked like shit and his cardio was garbage. Stipe took some bombs since and I'm not too convinced he's gonna have the same durability. Stipe is also a bit leaner. It's at the APEX, Stipe's stick and move boxing may not be QUITE as effective. Oh and Francis has 30 lbs. on him which doesn't help. I also want Stipe to win so Francis will probably win lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Yeah I meant the individual early rounds and method (exclude the sub)

    Not entire fight. -105 is for the entire fight right? That's complete crap odds.
    Ah I see. Yeah R2 KO/TKO, I'd consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    - He's only fought one opponent since, even if it was three times against the same person. Cormier looked like shit and his cardio was garbage. Stipe took some bombs since and I'm not too convinced he's gonna have the same durability. Stipe is also a bit leaner. It's at the APEX, Stipe's stick and move boxing may not be QUITE as effective. Oh and Francis has 30 lbs. on him which doesn't help. I also want Stipe to win so Francis will probably win lol.
    Definitely not man. Not sure what fights you were watching my guy.
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    I like Stipe but Francis improved way more than the last time they fought.

    Can Stipe keep him down for 5 rounds? If he doesn't he'll get KO'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    I like Stipe but Francis improved way more than the last time they fought.

    Can Stipe keep him down for 5 rounds? If he doesn't he'll get KO'd
    Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedenthead View Post
    Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
    Did you see my question about your free bet?
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    Stipe Miocic and Francis Ngannou

    Tyron Woodley and Vicente Luque


    Sean O'Malley and Thomas Almeida


    Gillian Robertson and Miranda Maverick


    Jamie Mullarkey and Khama Worthy


    Alonzo Menifield and Fabio Cherant
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    Thanks as always for your contribution Locky. Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Stipe better lean on his wrestling in this rematch...

    Francis Ngannou by Round 1 TKO/KO.

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    Ngannou's command of the english language.

    Puts americans like Stipe and I to shame.



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    Listen to Ngannou interviews to relax and fall asleep. Such a soothing voice. ASMR effect I believe is what it's called.

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    I'm going to bed. Ngannou did it again. Only had to listen for 4 minutes this time. Goodnight SBR

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    Drinking smart water on UFC embeddeds might be one indication.

    Your MMA nutritionist isn't worth shit btw.





    Water acidity is important.

    Smart water has some of the worst independent test scores iirc.

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    Left Hook Luque is coming for that Woodley chin.
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    Luque and Stipe for me as well. I am concerned that Stipe is getting up in age now and could get clipped on the chin in this second go around though.

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    Luque wins by KO against Tryon Woodley +275.. There is a gift for you boys...

    Woodley is old now and that chin is suspect. Bank it..

    Luque not afraid of black guys ..







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    Almeida looked washed up on the scales & face-offs. Woodley must have been taking better vitamins when he was in Strikeforce & early UFC years, his body looks alot softer now and no intensity.

    2 units O'Malley by KO/TKO/DQ +100
    1 unit Luque by KO/TKO/DQ + 275
    1.25 units Bukaukus / Oleksijak won't start Rd 3 -125
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    3.9 units Ngannu -130
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedenthead View Post
    Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
    Most important thing in fighting, his mindset

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    Barriault over Azaitar is definitely worth a shot at reasonable odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allure View Post
    Barriault over Azaitar is definitely worth a shot at reasonable odds.
    Be careful if it goes to decision, a lot of funny money behind the Azaitar boys. Apparently the UFC just happened to forgive their little incident on Fight Island

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    Ngannou gym stories.




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    UFC 260: Miocic vs. Ngannou II Picks:
    Marc-Andre Barriault Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
    Omar Morales Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
    Michal Oleksiejczuk Round 1 KO (Punches)
    Abubakar Nurmagomedov Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
    Alonzo Menifield Round 1 TKO (Punches)
    Khama Worthy Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
    Miranda Maverick Round 1 TKO (Elbows and Punches)
    Sean O’Malley Round 1 TKO (Wheel Kick and Punches)
    Vicente Luque Round 2 TKO (Punches)
    Stipe Miocic Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
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    UFC 260: Miocic vs. Ngannou II

    Fight Pass Early Prelims:

    Fight #1: Barriault vs. A. Azaitar
    Barriault (-125) 0.5u to win 0.4u

    ESPN Prelims:

    Fight #2: Morales vs. S. Young
    No Bet

    Fight #3: Oleksiejczuk vs. Bukauskas
    Oleksiejczuk (-138) 1.75u to win 1.27u
    Oleksiejczuk+Bukauskas Under 2.5 (-142) 0.5u to win 0.35u
    Oleksiejczuk KO/TKO (+210) 0.25u
    Oleksiejczuk Round 1 KO/TKO (+486) 0.5u

    Hedge(s):
    Bukauskas Round 2 (+1000) 0.1u
    Bukauskas Round 3 (+1400) 0.1u

    Fight #4: A. Nurmagomedov vs. Gooden
    A. Nurmagomedov Decision (+120) 0.25u

    Fight #5: Menifield vs. Cherant (DEBUT)
    No Bet

    Main Card:

    Fight #6: Worthy vs. Mullarkey
    Worthy Decision (+460) 0.25u

    Hedge:
    Mullarkey KO/TKO (+500) 0.25u

    Fight #7: Maverick vs. Robertson
    Maverick+Robertson Ends in Submission (+270) 0.4u
    Maverick ITD (+320) 0.35u
    Maverick Round 1 (+900) 0.1u
    Maverick Submission (+1100) 0.1u

    Fight #8: O’Malley vs. Almeida
    O’Malley KO/TKO (+170) 2u

    Hedge(s):
    Almeida Scorecards = No Action (+250) 0.3u
    Almeida ITD (+400) 0.1u

    Fight #9: Luque vs. Woodley
    Luque+Woodley Under 2.5 (+130) 0.35u
    Luque KO/TKO (+303) 1u

    Fight #10: Miocic (C) vs. Ngannou
    Miocic (+170) 1.5u
    Miocic Wins, Most Takedowns, Most SS (+250) 0.2u

    Hedge:
    Ngannou Round 1 (+243) 0.7u

    Multi-Event Parlays:
    Ankalaev/O’Malley (-115) 1.15u to win 1u
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