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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Another last minute pullout for Borg. Time to give him the axe once and for all.
    Antonio Cromartie could learn from Borg's pullout skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfTicketDealer View Post
    Borg needs to be cut at this point. Ridiculous how often he pulls out and/or misses weight.
    He's made it to 12 UFC fights. He's pulled out of 9 and missed weight 4 times.

    I've devised a metric called the Fuckup Ratio. It's calculated as (Fighter Initiated Withdrawals + Weight Misses) / Fights That Happen

    Borg has one of the highest Fuckup Ratios ever at 1.08. He's pulled out or missed weight for more than he's actually fought in the UFC.
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    This is Borg's history of pullouts/withdrawals before his son was born in 2018. He has been missing weight and pulling out due to illnesses for years prior.

    9/29/14 pulls out of 11/7/14 bout with Richie Vaculik due to injury

    8/8/15 misses weight by 0.75 pounds for a bout against Geanne Herrera

    7/21/16 pulls out week before 7/30/16 Fredy Serrano fight due to injury

    9/8/16 pulls out days before 9/10/16 Ian McCall fight due to "illness"

    12/30/16 misses weight by 3.5 pounds for a bout against Louis Smolka

    9/7/17 pulls out days before 9/9/17 PPV Main Event Title Fight against Demetrious Johnson due to "illness"
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    Derek Brunson and Edmen Shahbazyan


    Joanne Calderwood and Jennifer Maia


    Vicente Luque and Randy Brown


    Lando Vannata and Bobby Green


    Kevin Holland and Trevin Giles


    Frankie Saenz and Jonathan Martinez

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    Anyone else like bobby green today? I feel like he should be the favorite.

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    Fight Night WOOOOOOOO

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    Got JoJo by decision + Shahbazyan ITD
    Also on Luque and Meerschaert

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    lets go shahbaz + luque !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Anyone else like bobby green today? I feel like he should be the favorite.
    Was thinking Green should be the favorite.

    Lando Vannata looked sharper and improved fighting in his hometown last time out. Looks like he's made big changes in his training. Which could give him the edge here. But its hard to say with Lando fighting in his hometown last time out and Yancy looking the worst prepared he's ever looked in the UFC. Lando paced himself enough that we don't know if he still only has 1 to 2 rounds of cardio in a firefight.

    Would like to see Bobby Green wrestle Lando. Vannata's cardio has been suspect. It might not hold up and Green could break him.

    Slow paced kickboxing is the gameplan that would work most in Lando's favor.



    Too many question marks for me to feel one way or the other about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    This is Borg's history of pullouts/withdrawals before his son was born in 2018. He has been missing weight and pulling out due to illnesses for years prior.

    I think Borg is like Priscila Cachoeira.

    The UFC feels Cachoeira was done dirty by Mario Yamasaki so they give her a little more of a chance than they would normally give fighters.

    Ray Borg got glass shards in his eyes when Conor threw the dolly into the bus window. So they're giving him more of a chance than normal since he was done dirty that way.


    If it was heartless and cold bellator both Cahoeira and Borg would have been cut a long time ago.
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    Meerschaert out with COVID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Meerschaert out with COVID.
    Wow really?

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    Looks like he was forced to withdraw, how did they just find this out 20 mins before prelims kick off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Another last minute pullout for Borg. Time to give him the axe once and for all.
    Pls do.
    Last edited by rsynweap84; 08-01-20 at 05:13 PM.

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    will 4 fights go the Distance? May Parlay??

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    Prelims pushed back to 7pm eastern now instead of 6pm.

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    UFC on ESPN+ 31: Shahbazyan vs. Brunson Picks:
    Chris Gutierrez Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
    Jamall Emmers Round 3 TKO (Punches)
    Johnny Munoz Jr. Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
    Jonathan Martinez Round 1 KO (Flying Knee)
    Kevin Holland Round 3 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
    Lando Vannata Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
    Vicente Luque Round 1 KO (Punches)
    Joanne Calderwood Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
    Edmen Shahbazyan Round 1 TKO (Punches)
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    UFC on ESPN+ 31: Shahbazyan vs. Brunson

    ESPN+ Prelims:

    Fight #1: Gutierrez vs. Durden (DEBUT)
    No Bet

    Fight #2: Emmers vs. Cachero (DEBUT)
    No Bet

    Fight #3: Munoz Jr. (DEBUT) vs. Maness (DEBUT)
    Munoz Jr. ITD (+280) 0.36u

    Fight #4: Martinez vs. Saenz
    No Bet

    Main Card:

    Fight #5: Holland vs. Giles
    Holland+Giles Over 1.5 (-185) 1.85u to win 1u
    Holland Round 3 (+725) 0.25u

    Fight #6: Vannata vs. Green
    Vannata (-120) 0.9u to win 0.75u
    Vannata+Green Draw (+5000) 0.15u

    Fight #7: Luque vs. Brown
    Luque (-182) 3.3u to win 1.81u
    Luque KO/TKO (+244) 0.75u
    Luque+Brown Draw (+6500) 0.1u

    Hedge(s):
    Brown Decision (+450) 0.5u
    Brown Round 3 (+1500) 0.1u

    Fight #8: Calderwood vs. J. Maia
    No Bet

    Fight #9: Shahbazyan vs. Brunson
    Shahbazyan+Brunson Under 1.5 (-120) 1.5u to win 1.25u
    Shahbazyan KO/TKO (+100) 0.5u
    Shahbazyan+Brunson Won’t Start Round 2 (+140) 0.75u
    Shahbazyan Round 1 (+200) 0.75u
    Shahbazyan+Brunson Goes Distance (+240) 0.75u
    Shahbazyan+Brunson Draw (+7000) 0.1u

    Hedge:
    Brunson (+249) 3u

    Prop Parlays:
    Green Decision/Shahbazyan+Brunson GD (+1277) 0.25u
    Green Decision/Brown Decision (+1877) 0.1u

    Multi-Event Parlays:
    Brunson/Oliynik (+1151) 0.27u
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    I think Shahbazyan wins the main event more than 50% of the time but there is massive value on Brunson at current odds of (+335). Brunson has never been taken down in the UFC and has never lost a legitimate UFC decision. If Brunson can survive Shahbazyan's early KO threat, he's got a great shot to pull the upset.

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    Thanks as always for sharing your picks Hugo. What was the underdog you liked a lot? Just wondering. Thanks again and good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlulaxer View Post
    Thanks as always for sharing your picks Hugo. What was the underdog you liked a lot? Just wondering. Thanks again and good luck
    Brunson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Brunson
    Undersized. Explosive overhand his best shot at a W by the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Undersized. Explosive overhand his best shot at a W by the looks of it.
    How is he undersized?

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    1.1u Durden / Gutierrez Fight won’t go 3 round distance +125


    1.1u Cachero / Emmers Fight won't go 3 round distance* -135


    0.4u Munoz Jr wins by submission +255


    1.1u Parlay
    Jonathan Martinez -255
    Kevin Holland -238
    (-102)


    1.1u Giles / Holland Fight won’t go 3 round distance -140
    0.45u Kevin Holland to Win by Submission - Yes +220
    0.15u Kevin Holland wins in round 2 +530
    0.15u Kevin Holland wins in round 3 +950


    1.1u Bobby Green +132
    0.13u Bobby Green vrs Lando Vannata: Draw +4183


    1.1u parlay
    Bobby Green/Lando Vannata over 2 -260
    Jennifer Maia/Joanne Calderwood over 2 -400
    Edmen Shahbazyan -373
    (+119)


    1.1u Vicente Luque -185


    1.1u Joanne Calderwood -159


    1.1u u1-119 - (Derek Brunson vrs Edmen Shahbazyan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    How is he undersized?
    He looked smaller than Shabazzy boy at faceoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwgfb View Post
    will 4 fights go the Distance? May Parlay??
    That's almost half of the fights now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    He looked smaller than Shabazzy boy at faceoffs
    Brunson is listed as an inch shorter but has a 3" longer reach. Size not too big of a factor for this bout. Will come down to skills and attributes. Will Brunson's chin hold up long enough for Shahbazyan to tire out?

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    Diggity did you see JayLA's picture post in poster of the month thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Diggity did you see JayLA's picture post in poster of the month thread?
    Haha Yup!

    That's post of the month right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Haha Yup!

    That's post of the month right there.
    Lol more like post of the century. How many times have you fapped to it already? I will after the event. Lets encourage him to post more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Brunson is listed as an inch shorter but has a 3" longer reach. Size not too big of a factor for this bout. Will come down to skills and attributes. Will Brunson's chin hold up long enough for Shahbazyan to tire out?
    I have no strong take here. You're saying Brunson has better cardio?

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