1. 06-19-19 04:02 PM #1
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    UFC 239: Jones vs. Santos (July 06, 2019)



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    Jon Jones vs Thiago Santos (for light heavyweight title)
    Amanda Nunes vs Holly Holm (for bantamweight title)
    Ben Askren vs Jorge Masvidal
    Jan Blachowicz vs Luke Rockhold
    Michael Chiesa vs Diego Sanchez

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    Sean O'Malley vs Marlon Vera
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  2. 06-20-19 12:29 PM #2
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    All Over Vera Here.... Lock up that # boys....
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  3. 06-20-19 03:45 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    All Over Vera Here.... Lock up that # boys....
    Isnt this fight pretty close, but with a slight technical advantage to O malley?
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    Call me Crazy....but I feel O Malley lacks the grit and toughness.....his chin has not been properly tested IMO...I would give Omalley wildness and length....but overall technical advantage ....honestly NO.....Omalley is fun to watch but as the competition gets tougher and they stopping picking opponents that fit RIGHT into his style he is going to start losing...I feel Vera OWNS this fight in every aspect....skills, toughness, experience.....heart........
    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Isnt this fight pretty close, but with a slight technical advantage to O malley?
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  5. 06-20-19 04:24 PM #5
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    This will be a war...I like Omalley-I hope he does well..... No reason to dislike the guy-I just feel the hype has gotten a tad out of control and its disrespectful to give 1.5:1 on a guy like Vera....this should be Vera -145 IMO.... We have seen what Vera can do-its on paper---with Omalley your somewhat guessing and my guess is NO-this WILL be his toughest fight---Vera-its water he has been in before--nothing new..... Doubtful he quickly rolls Vera....A guy that has not been KO'd/TKO by anyone in 18 fights....I just cant justify Omalle as that big of a fav.....its just the name.....how diff would this line be if souk simply stood up in the 3rd round....
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    really hope askren getting his face smashed. He really should only be allowed to fight demian maia, this way it can neutralize their one and only skill they have.
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    [QUOTE=PaperTrail07;28712071]This will be a war...I like Omalley-I hope he does well..... No reason to dislike the guy-I just feel the hype has gotten a tad out of control and its disrespectful to give 1.5:1 on a guy like Vera....this should be Vera -145 IMO.... We have seen what Vera can do-its on paper---with Omalley your somewhat guessing and my guess is NO-this WILL be his toughest fight---Vera-its water he has been in before--nothing new..... Doubtful he quickly rolls Vera....A guy that has not been KO'd/TKO by anyone in 18 fights....I just cant justify Omalle as that big of a fav.....its just the name.....how diff would this line be if souk simply stood up in the 3rd round....[/QUOTEayb

    Hmm..interesting. I will check.
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  9. 06-21-19 09:40 AM #9
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    Bet heavy and early, Santos backers, so I can get a better line on JJ please!
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  10. 06-21-19 02:35 PM #10
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    On Masvidal, Holm, and Thiago Santos for the hail mary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacharron17 View Post
    On Masvidal, Holm, and Thiago Santos for the hail mary.
    Taking Nunes, Jones & Askren.
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    This is Gamebred's big chance!!! He may get ground down, but he's got much better cardio & diverse striking then Lawler. I got +210 and love the value even if I lose. He's going to take his shots!
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    "You know that feeling you get when you grab a hold of someone and they feel weak. You feel like you can do whatever you want with them. That's the feeling I got when I trained with Jorge Masvidal."

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    Sean O'Malley pulled from UFC 239 after traces of Ostarine show in drug test
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  15. 06-22-19 12:03 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Sean O'Malley pulled from UFC 239 after traces of Ostarine show in drug test
    Sounds like a potential Jon Jones pulsing effect situation.
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    Early leans on Santos, Nunes, Masvidal, Yadong, Edmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Sean O'Malley pulled from UFC 239 after traces of Ostarine show in drug test
    Its weird how "PED traces" often appear too late to find replacements.

    Athletic commissions are so shady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    "You know that feeling you get when you grab a hold of someone and they feel weak. You feel like you can do whatever you want with them. That's the feeling I got when I trained with Jorge Masvidal."

    --Ben Askren (talking about gamebred)
    Was impressed with the way Askren survived when Lawler dumped him on his head and landed multiple huge shots on him. If he can avoid getting KOd I think he'll win.
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  19. 06-22-19 12:38 PM #19
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    I like Askren a lot as a fighter but don't love this matchup for him. Masvidal is slippery AF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I like Askren a lot as a fighter but don't love this matchup for him. Masvidal is slippery AF
    True, and after the way he KOd Till I am concerned about his striking too. I think Askren gets it done but only have 2 units on it as I'm not super confident.
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  21. 06-24-19 04:59 PM #21
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    Any reads on the Diego Sanchez vs Michael Chiesa fight? I want to say Michael Chiesa submission but Diego Sanchez is a tough bastard and might make it to a decision.
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    Interesting angle. Sanchez has never been submitted in his whole career so you might get a good price. Also, he recently left Jackson-Wink which surprised me.
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    I wanted to take Sanchez at + odds the last 2 times he fought and chickened out. I'm taking him this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teem View Post
    I wanted to take Sanchez at + odds the last 2 times he fought and chickened out. I'm taking him this time.
    The time to take him Big was against that bum Mickey Gall.
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    imo they are looking to punish ASKREN, CHAOS, and JUAN ADAMS>....lol.....different reasons for all but just what I think LOL....
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    I like Askren a lot as a fighter but don't love this matchup for him. Masvidal is slippery AF
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    Your not kidding...got sucked into GALL there......Sanchez found the fountain of youth and has the heart of a god damn Lion......I lose money against him-if only I could cash in the respect I have for him after each time he fights
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    The time to take him Big was against that bum Mickey Gall.
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  27. 06-27-19 10:51 AM #27
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    Did anyone else happen to notice how absolutely ripped Holly Holm is looking for this fight? With Nunez talking about being in a drunk stupor for weeks celebrating her Cyborg win, this looks to be an extremely great spot to take a flier on the underdog. I think it's a great matchup for Holm anyways. She understands distance in the fight and has superior defense and fight IQ. The two things missing from Cyborg's last game plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I like Askren a lot as a fighter but don't love this matchup for him. Masvidal is slippery AF
    I imagine the Masvidal vs Mia fight would be good tape to watch to understand how this one is likely to play out on their feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrider88 View Post
    really hope askren getting his face smashed. He really should only be allowed to fight demian maia, this way it can neutralize their one and only skill they have.
    Is chin a skill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacharron17 View Post
    Any reads on the Diego Sanchez vs Michael Chiesa fight? I want to say Michael Chiesa submission but Diego Sanchez is a tough bastard and might make it to a decision.
    Chiesa too big for him, only way i see him losing if he gasses... should control this fight though
    looks much bigger and healthier at 170 and Diego is far past his prime with terrible striking ... should be a fun fight though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I like Askren a lot as a fighter but don't love this matchup for him. Masvidal is slippery AF
    Do you favour Masvidal in this matchup? If so, why? I put a small bet on Masvidal because I felt the odds should be tighter. Is this stylistically a bad matchup for Askren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    Chiesa too big for him, only way i see him losing if he gasses... should control this fight though
    looks much bigger and healthier at 170 and Diego is far past his prime with terrible striking ... should be a fun fight though
    Yeah, I figure it might be a Michael Chiesa decision win the more I analyzed it. It's only a 3 round fight. Guess we will see soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianMike View Post
    Is chin a skill?
    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacharron17 View Post
    Do you favour Masvidal in this matchup? If so, why? I put a small bet on Masvidal because I felt the odds should be tighter. Is this stylistically a bad matchup for Askren?
    No I think Askren will outwrestle him in a close fight. Far tougher matchup for Askren then someone like Covington or Till
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacharron17 View Post
    Yeah, I figure it might be a Michael Chiesa decision win the more I analyzed it. It's only a 3 round fight. Guess we will see soon!
    agreed, id say Chiesa decision is the most likely outcome here

    and 3 rounder Askren gonna lay on Masvidal the entire time, decision win again
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