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    Can't wait to watch Israel get pieced up!! #TELLEMUNCLECHAELSENTYAA

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    Maybe possible sub for lasagna?

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    For sure....I guess I just see 50/50 at +$.....IA comes out and simply displays the footwork and hands necessary-and TKO's him....good for him-and well done... Its not crazy to think he loses IMO
    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Absolutely Kelvin Gastelum got something with him, he came this far, and hes not a huge guy, but he still do fairly good in middleweight.

    It would be damn sweet, with that little fat bullied kid rising all the way to the top, but at the end of the day, the stylistic matchup is bad, he doesnt have the skill, im afraid, thats just not a good spot, to place your money.

    Regardless of youre liking an underdog, or a favourite, dont place you money on a bad stylistic matchup, i would reconsider if i was you Paper.

    You can still get Wilson Reis at +150, that fight seems pretty 50/50 or that horrible takedown defence of Curtis Millender, i mean, isnt that something to at least consider? Instead of Kelvin Gastelum trying to outstrike a glory kickboxer with 10 reach disadvantage?

    Hehe..do you get my point? Why make betting this difficult?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Maybe possible sub for lasagna?
    Who is Lasagna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Who is Lasagna?
    It must be auto correct.

    I think he meant to say meatball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Even in later round when he WILL be the one walking forward? If KG can beat SOUZA you bet your ass I'm tossing $ on him vs stylebender....
    Souza was severely compromised in that fight (rumor is that he had to jump rope to cut weight because he didn't have access to a sauna). I wouldn't pick Gastelum to beat Souza again.

    Souza was dead tired and slow as hell after the 1st round and Souza was still outstriking Gastelum through much of the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He lost the 2nd because of that knockdown but otherwise was outlanding Gastelum at least 2-1 in the first 3 or 4 minutes.

    There are a lot of other reasons besides reach and height that Israel is likely to piece up Gastelum here. Gastelum is very hittable as both Jacare and Weidman showed. He also bites and overreacts to feints. None of the guys he's fought has feinted nearly as much as Israel does. So Israel can keep Kelvin a lot more off balanced than we've seen.

    Finally, though Gastelum has a lot of power, his big knockdowns and knockouts came when the guy is standing in front of him and he can plant and land punches. His straight line attacks are explosive for early rounds but should be very predictable for a guy like Adesanya who's going to be further away, doesn't stay in front of you, and angles out of exchanges. Silva might be old but he's at least one of the most creative and unpredictable strikers in MMA history. Against a more conventional style striker like Gastelum, Adesenya should have less to worry about, and he can focus on just avoiding Gastelum's power shots. Israel would need to make a big mistake in order to get caught, and he hasn't really made many if any mistakes at all.

    Bottom line is that Gastelum has a puncher's chance against a guy who will likely be not in range or too wise to his game for him to even roll that dice. Gastelum is going to need a Pettis vs Wonderboy type hail mary to land, and that's just not worth +150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Souza was severely compromised in that fight (rumor is that he had to jump rope to cut weight because he didn't have access to a sauna). I wouldn't pick Gastelum to beat Souza again.

    Souza was dead tired and slow as hell after the 1st round and Souza was still outstriking Gastelum through much of the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He lost the 2nd because of that knockdown but otherwise was outlanding Gastelum at least 2-1 in the first 3 or 4 minutes.

    There are a lot of other reasons besides reach and height that Israel is likely to piece up Gastelum here. Gastelum is very hittable as both Jacare and Weidman showed. He also bites and overreacts to feints. None of the guys he's fought has feinted nearly as much as Israel does. So Israel can keep Kelvin a lot more off balanced than we've seen.

    Finally, though Gastelum has a lot of power, his big knockdowns and knockouts came when the guy is standing in front of him and he can plant and land punches. His straight line attacks are explosive for early rounds but should be very predictable for a guy like Adesanya who's going to be further away, doesn't stay in front of you, and angles out of exchanges. Silva might be old but he's at least one of the most creative and unpredictable strikers in MMA history. Against a more conventional style striker like Gastelum, Adesenya should have less to worry about, and he can focus on just avoiding Gastelum's power shots. Israel would need to make a big mistake in order to get caught, and he hasn't really made many if any mistakes at all.

    Bottom line is that Gastelum has a puncher's chance against a guy who will likely be not in range or too wise to his game for him to even roll that dice. Gastelum is going to need a Pettis vs Wonderboy type hail mary to land, and that's just not worth +150.
    Totally agree with this. I'm on Adesanya for sure. Hopefully the streak of ridiculous comeback one punch knockouts is over. I'm super sick of that.

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    MMA MANIA prelims -


    155 lbs.: Jalin Turner vs. Matt Frevola

    Jalin Turner (8-4) busted up Max Mustaki on “Contender Series,” then stepped up on short notice to face Vicente Luque at Welterweight. Though he suffered a brutal knockout loss, “The Tarantula” returned four months later to stop Callan Potter in just 53 seconds.
    He’s knocked out seven opponents and submitted one other, all in the first round.
    Matt Frevola (6-1-1) made the most of his headlining spot on “Contender Series,” choking out Jose Flores to earn himself a contract. His UFC debut against Polo Reyes ended with Frevola unconscious after 60 seconds, but “The Steamrolla” rebounded with an entertaining draw against Lando Vannata.
    He’ll give up a staggering six inches of height and reach to Turner.
    This match up is all kinds of wrong for Frevola. Relying on durability and tenacity instead of good technique to get inside doesn’t work against a guy a half-foot taller than you. Worse, Turner hits like a truck, and as tough as Frevola is, we’ve seen him succumb to punches before.
    I just don’t see Frevola getting close enough to land his takedowns and haymakers without taking critical damage from Turner’s switch-hitting boxing. Unless Frevola can get on top early and put some fear into Turner, the taller man tears him up for a knockout midway through the first.
    Prediction: Turner via first-round knockout

    125 lbs.:
    Wilson Reis vs. Alexandre Pantoja


    A 5-1 run marred only by a loss to Jussier Formiga carried Wilson Reis (23-9) to a title shot, where he tapped for the first time in his professional career to a Demetrius Johnson armbar. Losses to Henry Cejudo and John Moraga followed, after which he salvaged his Octagon career with a decision over Ben Nguyen.
    He’s one an inch shorter than Alexandre Pantoja (20-3) and will give up two inches of reach.
    “The Cannibal” earned the No. 1 seed on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 24, where he reached the semifinals before dropping a decision to Japanese grinder Hiromasa Ogikubo. He’s won four of five in the Octagon itself, most recently choking out submission specialist Ulka Sasaki in Argentina.
    Eight of his 14 stoppages have come by submission, six by rear-naked choke.
    It’s honestly something of a tragedy that Reis’ chin is what it is. He gets dropped essentially once a fight, keeping him from building up significant momentum, and Pantoja hits hard enough to exploit that mercilessly. At the same time, though, Reis averages more than five takedowns per fight, and Pantoja has been wrangled and taken down by lesser wrestlers.
    This fight boils down to whether Pantoja’s scrambling can keep him on his feet long enough to land the game-changing blow. I don’t believe he’s quite as explosively dangerous as John Moraga, though, and expect Reis to narrowly edge a decision via constant takedown pressure.
    Prediction: Pantoja via unanimous decision

    170 lbs.: Max Griffin vs. Zelim Imadaev

    Max Griffin (14-6) fell short in a “Fight of the Night” war with Elizeu Zaleski, setting him up as a decent-sized underdog to Mike Perry four months later, but “Max Pain” pulled the upset in Orlando. He enters the cage on a two-fight losing streak, one a clear decision against Curtis Millender and the other a robbery against Thiago Alves.
    He has finished nine professional opponents, seven via knockout.
    Chechnya’s Zelim Imadaev (8-0) has been on the warpath since his 2016 pro debut, knocking out all eight of his professional opponents. Four of those victories have come in under two minutes, including a 13-second knockout in his most recent bout.
    This will be his first fight in more than one year because of an injury.
    Imadaev is young, aggressive, dangerous and 100 percent unproven. Only three of his opponents had a single win on their records, and they were 2-0, 9-8, and 16-8-1, respectively. One of them was on a three-fight losing streak at the time. If his knockout ability translates to the upper echelons of the sport, he’s one to watch.
    The thing is, we’ve seen Griffin hold his own against crazy-aggressive strikers before, and Imadaev’s overindulgence in flying knees suggests that the Chechen has yet to learn temperance. Imadaev — just 24 years young — has had a long time to improve since his most recent bout, so anything can happen, but I say Griffin defuses him with crafty striking to eke out a decision.
    Prediction: Griffin via split decision

    135 lbs.:
    Boston Salmon vs. Khalid Taha


    Boston Salmon (6-1)made his name with a series of strong performances in RFA, the lone blemish a decision loss to Zac Riley that ringside announcer Mike Schiavello called one of the worst robberies he’d ever seen. The “loss” didn’t stop him from appearing on “Contender Series,” where “Boom Boom” boxed up unbeaten Ricky Turcios on the pilot episode.
    This will be his first fight since July 2017 as a result of injuries to himself and others.
    Khalid Taha (12-2) beat down Keita Ishibashi in the opening round of Rizin’s Bantamweight Grand Prix before tapping to veteran Takafumi Otsuka in the semifinals. A bounce-back victory led to a UFC debut opposite Nad Narimani, who out-wrestled “The Warrior” to secure a decision.
    He was originally slated to face Salmon in Nov. 2018 before tearing his ACL.
    This has sleeper “Fight of the Night” potential — both men are dedicated, versatile, powerful strikers who should put on a show without the threat of takedowns to slow them down. Salmon’s slight height and reach advantages may be the deciding factor; Taha has the greater variety in his attack and looks to be more aggressive, but extending to cover the reach disparity puts him in range of Salmon’s lethal counters. Taha would be best served keeping a high pace and not letting Salmon cruise, which is easier said than done considering how hard Salmon can punch.
    Salmon’s passivity is the X-factor, as he seems content to wait for his opportunities and can get tagged a bit in the process. I’d say he’s overall sharper than Taha, though, and the latter’s output will drop in a hurry once the counters start piling up. Salmon lets it get closer than it needs to be, but ultimately takes the decision with higher-quality blows.
    Prediction: Salmon via unanimous decision


    170 lbs.: Belal Muhammad vs. Curtis Millender

    A 1-2 UFC start gave way to a four-fight win streak for Belal Muhammad (14-3), including an upset of Tim Means that saw Muhammad out-strike the vaunted Muay Thai artist. His run came to an end in January against Geoff Neal, whose power striking proved too much for “Remember the Name.”
    He faces a three-inch height and four-inch reach discrepancy.
    Curtis Millender (17-4) took home a “Performance of the Night” bonus for his knee knockout of Thiago Alves in his Octagon debut (watch highlights), which he followed up with decisions over Max Griffin and Siyar Bahadurzada to extend his win streak to nine. In his biggest fight to date, he took on the surging Elizeu Zaleski last month, tapping to a rear-naked choke midway through the first round.
    His six knockout wins include two by head kick.
    This is going to sound harsher than is warranted for someone who’s 3-1 in the Octagon, but I think this might be Millender’s ceiling. His takedown defense just hasn’t caught up with his striking — he’s been taken down at least once in all of his UFC fights, surrendering three to the compact Bahadurzada and one to Zaleski, who has a takedown accuracy of 15 percent.
    Muhammad is tough as hell, isn’t lost against rangier strikers, and can wrestle. That seems like just the formula to handle “Curtious.”
    Millender’s knees and head kicks will be a persistent threat, but as soon as Muhammad gets inside those limbs, he should be able to drag Millender to the mat with relative ease. Expect him to grind away for 15 one-sided minutes.
    Prediction: Muhammad via unanimous decision
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    135 lbs.: Montel Jackson vs. Andre Soukhamthath

    A series of fouls in his “Contender Series” victory kept Montel Jackson (7-1) from getting an immediate contract, but he got the chance to step up on short notice against Ricky Simon less than two months later. Though he struggled with Simon’s grappling in defeat, he showed what he could do with a full training camp in Dec. 2018, dropping and choking out Brian Kelleher in 100 seconds.
    He has knocked out five opponents as a professional and several more as an amateur.
    Andre Soukhamthath (13-6) made UFC history in the worst way possible when he insisted on taking down Sean O’Malley despite the latter being unable to stand because of a foot injury, resulting in him losing a decision. He returned to action seven months later against late replacement Jonathan Martinez, winning a unanimous decision to raise his UFC record to 2-3.
    He is one inch shorter than Jackson and will give up nearly a half-foot of reach.
    I’m impressed Soukhamthath’s foot still works considering how many times he’s shot it, and his insistence on throwing away winnable fights is made only more frustrating by the fact that he’s legitimately powerful and dangerous when he wants to be. He’s the better striker on paper, but it’s impossible to have faith in his ability to execute an effective gameplan.
    To make matters worse, Soukhamthath can’t fall back on his wresting against a superior takedown artist, and the reach disparity means that Soukhamthath will have to put himself in clinch danger if he wants to rip his customary body shots. Jackson mixes his long-range striking with regular takedowns, never letting Soukhamthath find a rhythm on his way to a dominant decision victory.
    Prediction: Jackson via unanimous decision
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    125 lbs.: Poliana Botelho vs. Lauren Mueller

    The UFC debut for Poliana Botelho (7-2) was one of the stranger in recent memory, taking place almost entirely on the fence as Pearl Gonzalez failed to take her down, but Botelho gave a glimpse of her action potential with a 33-second body kick knockout of Syuri Kondo her next time out. She entered her next bout with Cynthia Calvillo as the favorite, only to tap to a rear-naked choke late in the first round.
    All but one of her professional victories have come by knockout.
    Lauren Mueller (5-1) put on a strong performance on “Contender Series,” then followed that up with a decision over TUF veteran Shana Dobson in her Octagon debut. She was doing well with her wrestling against ** Yanan in her sophomore appearance, but got caught in an armbar four minutes into the first round.
    She steps in for the injured Paige VanZant on six weeks’ notice.
    This fight should tell us whether Botelho is a legitimate contender or just a fun action fighter. Mueller is a strong infighter with some wrestling she can fall back on, two areas that Botelho needs to prove she can hold her own in. It’s a competitive match up that looks fit to deliver plenty of entertainment in a division that, let’s face it, has been a disappointment since its inception.
    Botelho’s the bigger hitter, sports a three-inch height advantage, and has more experience in insane brawls, so unless her takedown defense is a bigger Achilles’ heel than I thought, expect her to bomb Mueller out late in the first.
    Prediction: Botelho via first-round technical knockout
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    For sure....I guess I just see 50/50 at +$.....IA comes out and simply displays the footwork and hands necessary-and TKO's him....good for him-and well done... Its not crazy to think he loses IMO
    Tavares foot was broken, Anderson Silva was like 44 and stole a round, and Israel has more or less never met stiff competition...he has just skipped the whole beating a top 5 guy buildup before the title shot AND he is very active, almost to a fault.

    Perhaps this title shot is a bit too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Tavares foot was broken, Anderson Silva was like 44 and stole a round, and Israel has more or less never met stiff competition...he has just skipped the whole beating a top 5 guy buildup before the title shot AND he is very active, almost to a fault.

    Perhaps this title shot is a bit too early.
    I see a lot of people analyzing this fight based on who Adesanya has fought instead of what he actually did in the fight.

    We can do the same thing with Kevin's opponents. His best win was Jacare who looked compromised in that fight and still arguably won on many people's cards. Before that, he Ko'd Bisping who was coming off a club and sub loss just 2 weeks prior to GSP. Before that he landed a nice 1-2 on Weidman but was out struck and outgrappled on his way to a sub loss. Before that he beat the shell of Vitor Belfort. Before that he beat a declining middle of the road MW.

    I keep on hearing that Kelvins advantage here is that he's been with the best of the best. But all of his wins except for Jacare were also against aging fighters (Hendricks, Kennedy, Vitor, and Bisping).

    It seems clear to me that Israel has every advantage in the striking department besides power. Kelvin also hasn't shown any offensive grappling at MW. If he has it in his back pocket and decided to wait until now to use it, then great for Kelvin backers. But it's tough to rely on something he hasn't really done in years and was successful at in a weight division 15 lbs lighter. I'm not sure that Kelvins wrestling is much more threatening than true MWs like Tavares and Brunson despite having a better pedigree. He still needs to cover that distance so I'm not sure how he can avoid shooting from way outside like Brunson did.
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    For those of you good with WMMA, would Poliana be the right pick over Mueller? I'm not betting on this one, just picking against friends.

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    As far as bets go, i'm on Adesanya, Holloway, and Davis. Looking to take Reis and Turner as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teem View Post
    For those of you good with WMMA, would Poliana be the right pick over Mueller? I'm not betting on this one, just picking against friends.
    Polly Bots is the rightful favorite here IMO. Don't really think Mueller is strong enough to work a grappling and clinching game against Botelho and Botelho should have the power and kicking advantage. Mueller can land some punch combos well but she leaves herself open to the counter which might make her more hesitant. Mueller has also shown some weakness to the body and Botelho has a couple of body kick finishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Polly Bots is the rightful favorite here IMO. Don't really think Mueller is strong enough to work a grappling and clinching game against Botelho and Botelho should have the power and kicking advantage. Mueller can land some punch combos well but she leaves herself open to the counter which might make her more hesitant. Mueller has also shown some weakness to the body and Botelho has a couple of body kick finishes.
    Great, thank you for the response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Tavares foot was broken, Anderson Silva was like 44 and stole a round, and Israel has more or less never met stiff competition...he has just skipped the whole beating a top 5 guy buildup before the title shot AND he is very active, almost to a fault.

    Perhaps this title shot is a bit too early.
    He may be still a bit raw.. Gas is tough and probably more well rounded for sure.. Speed and boxing still goes to Israel regardless though.. Fight stays standing I think it's his fight to win. Gas to short to slow to white ..

    Always bet on BLACK!!!

    Gas by Sub might be a hedge play though at +525. Gas might grab the neck or something at some point and get a squeeze on..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teem View Post
    As far as bets go, i'm on Adesanya, Holloway, and Davis. Looking to take Reis and Turner as well.
    I like all of these except Reis (I’m on Pantoja small but liking the bet less after tape).

    Best of luck this week sir!

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    @Jibby

    Glad to see you on Team Adesanya for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Who is Lasagna?
    I'm gonna call him lasagna 😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    @Jibby

    Glad to see you on Team Adesanya for this one.
    Yup Hugo got him winning by decision..

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    Dude.....you and me both....Ill never sit comfy in a fight again lol...I wouldn't either BUT the fact is HE PULLED IT OFF>...I bet Souza and just remember not giving KG enough credit for just digging deep....wanting it more...I think Ades is more skilled-overall but there is more to it sometimes....if KG comes in less than 100% and tries a kickboxing match to prove something-its done..
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Totally agree with this. I'm on Adesanya for sure. Hopefully the streak of ridiculous comeback one punch knockouts is over. I'm super sick of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I like all of these except Reis (I’m on Pantoja small but liking the bet less after tape).

    Best of luck this week sir!
    How do you see Pantoja winning this? I favor Reis here slightly so the +155 price seemed like good value to me. People are saying that Pantoja should easily win the striking but I'm not seeing it at all.

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    Agree Turbo...Pantoja is usually less active and Reis look great last fight....Reis Decision win IMO...
    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    How do you see Pantoja winning this? I favor Reis here slightly so the +155 price seemed like good value to me. People are saying that Pantoja should easily win the striking but I'm not seeing it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    How do you see Pantoja winning this? I favor Reis here slightly so the +155 price seemed like good value to me. People are saying that Pantoja should easily win the striking but I'm not seeing it at all.
    Knockout. I think Pantoja hits hard and Reis has a bad chin. Could also catch him in a sub like DJ did or maybe win rounds. I think if Pantoja wins it’s more likely to be a finish while Reis is more likely to win a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Knockout. I think Pantoja hits hard and Reis has a bad chin. Could also catch him in a sub like DJ did or maybe win rounds. I think if Pantoja wins it’s more likely to be a finish while Reis is more likely to win a decision.
    I think knockout is the least likely way of Pantoja winning. He has 0 KO's on his record and his striking has only looked good against Moreno who pretty much fought in the exact way to make him look good (stay around kicking range, overextend on punches, and stand still in the pocket for return fire). Pantoja really didn't need any creativity or lateral footwork in that Moreno fight to piece him up. Even against a sitting duck in Moreno, he couldn't get the KO (got close in the 1st). Against a stronger takedown threat in Reis, who actually enters the pocket with head movement, Pantoja can't just sit down and throw at a stationary target. He tried to do that against a much weaker and slower Ulka and just ended up being pushed down to the mat. I think Pantoja's footwork is not nearly as good as either Ben10 or Moraga.

    Pantoja is improving it seems, but it's hard to judge how much of that is just a factor of the matchups he's had. Moraga and Ben10 would've probably styled on Moreno too. Maybe Moreno isn't as terrible as I think, but I'm fairly confident he is, so I can't give too much credit to Pantoja's striking. The last fight we got to see his striking besides Moreno, Pantoja was getting outboxed by Ortiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    I think knockout is the least likely way of Pantoja winning. He has 0 KO's on his record and his striking has only looked good against Moreno who pretty much fought in the exact way to make him look good (stay around kicking range, overextend on punches, and stand still in the pocket for return fire). Pantoja really didn't need any creativity or lateral footwork in that Moreno fight to piece him up. Even against a sitting duck in Moreno, he couldn't get the KO (got close in the 1st). Against a stronger takedown threat in Reis, who actually enters the pocket with head movement, Pantoja can't just sit down and throw at a stationary target. He tried to do that against a much weaker and slower Ulka and just ended up being pushed down to the mat. I think Pantoja's footwork is not nearly as good as either Ben10 or Moraga.

    Pantoja is improving it seems, but it's hard to judge how much of that is just a factor of the matchups he's had. Moraga and Ben10 would've probably styled on Moreno too. Maybe Moreno isn't as terrible as I think, but I'm fairly confident he is, so I can't give too much credit to Pantoja's striking. The last fight we got to see his striking besides Moreno, Pantoja was getting outboxed by Ortiz.
    We'll find out. Judging by the chat it seems like you're huge on Reis. No concern that he was KOed by Cejudo and submitted by DJ (technically a White Belt in BJJ)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    We'll find out. Judging by the chat it seems like you're huge on Reis. No concern that he was KOed by Cejudo and submitted by DJ (technically a White Belt in BJJ)?
    Not huge. Just had half a unit earlier and added another half for 1 unit. I've been asking about it a lot hoping to get some more input for the purposes of adding. But nobdy else seems to agree about the striking issues I see with Pantoja so I'm prepared to be wrong on that point. Even those that took a stab on Reis seem to think Pantoja will have a significant striking advantage. I think this fight should be even odds, but given the small + now, I'd want to comfortable believe Reis as a favorite before going more than 1u.

    I'm more concerned about Pantoja snatching a submission in transition than a KO. Pantoja is definitely slicker, but Reis is BJJ black belt and stronger than Pantoja, so that should be enough to avoid trouble in positional grappling battles. DJ is on another level when it comes to skill and adjustments, and Cejdo is on another level when it comes to speed and athleticism compared to Pantoja. If Pantoja shows any of that, I'll just have to take off my hat to him.
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    Poirier was saved by the ref after the strike to his shoulder. Let's not forget how that turned everything around after the restart. Alvarez had a solid chance of a finish or at least punished Poirier leading to the third round. Max's wins were all dominant fashion, undisputed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Yup Hugo got him winning by decision..
    I think he wins with tko or sub.

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    @Turbo Fair enough. Best of luck this weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    I think he wins with tko or sub.
    I’d be pretty surprised if Adesanya subs Gastelum

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    Lotto win surprised lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I’d be pretty surprised if Adesanya subs Gastelum

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    I'm doing a Draftkings lineup for this event..

    Holloway
    Adesanya
    St Preux
    Millender
    Turner
    Taha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I’d be pretty surprised if Adesanya subs Gastelum
    I'm tempted to bet it. If gastelum pushes for a takedown constantly gets caught in a guillotine.

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    As far as the main event goes, I have bad news (or good news depending on your viewpoint)....

    My friend, who's huge into UFC, and used to write a column on it, etc etc.... I used to ask him his opinions on people when NJ opened up betting and I started betting UFC.... he/we did well.

    And the current streak he's on has been nothing short of horrific. A long string of losses. Long.

    His pick for this fight: Holloway


    I'll see myself out

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    I'm w him......we lose-----we lose LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    As far as the main event goes, I have bad news (or good news depending on your viewpoint)....

    My friend, who's huge into UFC, and used to write a column on it, etc etc.... I used to ask him his opinions on people when NJ opened up betting and I started betting UFC.... he/we did well.

    And the current streak he's on has been nothing short of horrific. A long string of losses. Long.

    His pick for this fight: Holloway


    I'll see myself out

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