1. #141
    frankieunits2685
    frankieunits2685's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-19-17
    Posts: 3,575
    Betpoints: 2021

    Actually slipknot just posted something similar in the post above. With the fighter who got suspended for 2 years and other fighters who were penalized worse. What it all comes down to is money.

  2. #142
    TommieGunshot
    TommieGunshot's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-12
    Posts: 1,555
    Betpoints: 6350

    Quote Originally Posted by frankieunits2685 View Post
    Yeah pretty much, the UFC also plays favorites just like everyone else. I forgot what his name was but I know there was another fighter who got suspended for 2 years because he had a smaller amount pop up on his test compared to jones.
    Which means if the UFC eliminated drug testing, some people would be better off (like that guy who was suspended for doing the same thing Jones is doing), while no one would be worse off

  3. #143
    JIBBBY
    JIBBBY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-10-09
    Posts: 83,073
    Betpoints: 11862

    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    Which means if the UFC eliminated drug testing, some people would be better off (like that guy who was suspended for doing the same thing Jones is doing), while no one would be worse off
    It would force every fighter to start stacking and taking steroids just like professional body builders do. Not necessarily healthy to stack and continue to take steroids year round and always.

    Some fighters don't want to juice and those will fall far behind. Oh and steroids can make you agro and rage, these fighters are already on edge and temperamental. Just look at the pre-fight press conferences, someone is always throwing bottles or charging someone, weigh ins too. Throw juice in the mix and forget about it!!!!

    You'll get a bunch of violent wife beating serial killers in the UFC


  4. #144
    Frank Mills
    Frank Mills's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-26-18
    Posts: 1,244

    War Machine

  5. #145
    TommieGunshot
    TommieGunshot's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-12
    Posts: 1,555
    Betpoints: 6350

    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    It would force every fighter to start stacking and taking steroids just like professional body builders do. Not necessarily healthy to stack and continue to take steroids year round and always.

    Some fighters don't want to juice and those will fall far behind. Oh and steroids can make you agro and rage, these fighters are already on edge and temperamental. Just look at the pre-fight press conferences, someone is always throwing bottles or charging someone, weigh ins too. Throw juice in the mix and forget about it!!!!

    You'll get a bunch of violent wife beating serial killers in the UFC

    Was that stuff happening in Major League Baseball for all the years they didn’t have any testing?

    The fighters who don’t use drugs are already far behind the ones who the UFC does allow to use

  6. #146
    JIBBBY
    JIBBBY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-10-09
    Posts: 83,073
    Betpoints: 11862

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Mills View Post
    War Machine
    He's rotting in jail today and will be an old man if and when he ever gets out. He beat the absolute crap out of that porn star and almost killed her. https://nypost.com/2017/06/05/war-ma...ex-girlfriend/

    War Machine was represented by Jay Leiderman and Brandon Sua. On June 5, 2017, War Machine was sentenced to an aggregate sentence of life in prison with possibility of parole after 36 years has been served.
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-25-18 at 04:50 PM.

  7. #147
    DeathAdder
    DeathAdder's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-04-14
    Posts: 588
    Betpoints: 8209

    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A

  8. #148
    sourtwist
    not a non pro
    sourtwist's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-09-12
    Posts: 9,364
    Betpoints: 548

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathAdder View Post
    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A
    Agree

  9. #149
    JIBBBY
    JIBBBY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-10-09
    Posts: 83,073
    Betpoints: 11862

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathAdder View Post
    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A
    I think the exact opposite - if Jon Jones has been popped several times in the past for PED's what makes you think he will ever stop? Repeat offenders tend to repeat the offenses. Is what it is.. Looking forward to the fight.

  10. #150
    TommieGunshot
    TommieGunshot's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-12
    Posts: 1,555
    Betpoints: 6350

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathAdder View Post
    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A
    Jones was busted 17 months ago. Turinabol has a biological half-life of 16 hours. That means whatever amount Jones had in his body 17 months ago was reduced by half 770 times. The only way he would still have a picogram remaining is if the amount from 17 months ago exceeded the amount of mass in the universe

    (someone please correct me if my math is wrong: 1pg x 2^70 = 1g; 1g^700 = 10^510
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.d742106380ad
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1798729
    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/abo...e-intermediate)

  11. #151
    Frank Mills
    Frank Mills's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-26-18
    Posts: 1,244

    no way dude. Gus already said he is not going to respect him this time either. That is a huge statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeathAdder View Post
    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A

  12. #152
    Frank Mills
    Frank Mills's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-26-18
    Posts: 1,244

    Fight was so close last time. At 2.5 to 1 odds I feel there is plenty value in that play.

  13. #153
    Slipknot26
    Slipknot26's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-17-15
    Posts: 5,046
    Betpoints: 1575

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathAdder View Post
    picogram metabolite found from last years suspension. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones would actually juice again after his previous suspensions if really really and I mean REALLY daft. He is not risking a) reputation b) millions c) chance at title rematch with DC to get busted. C'mon man. This is IMO a dead issue.

    I will say this: Jon Jones is a bad dude. Wouldn't want to be Gustafson because kid is gonna get murked in the octagon in L.A
    Yea because Josh Gordon did so well at his 5th attempt ?
    You get these stars know they have preferential treatment right ?
    Jones got less than Lawlor did on his 1st fail while this is Jones 5th failed piss test !
    Things sound good in theory but people know if you murder someone and get caught , may be life in prison yet happens multiple times daily .
    Jones knows he has the power and pull to get away with it , they just moved an entire fukkin event for him and him alone .

  14. #154
    sourtwist
    not a non pro
    sourtwist's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-09-12
    Posts: 9,364
    Betpoints: 548

    Quote Originally Posted by Slipknot26 View Post
    Yea because Josh Gordon did so well at his 5th attempt ?
    You get these stars know they have preferential treatment right ?
    Jones got less than Lawlor did on his 1st fail while this is Jones 5th failed piss test !
    Things sound good in theory but people know if you murder someone and get caught , may be life in prison yet happens multiple times daily .
    Jones knows he has the power and pull to get away with it , they just moved an entire fukkin event for him and him alone .
    This is ridiculous...preferential treatment? The guy has had a target on his back the size of the one on Trump's for years. People are jealous of him, and will do whatever they can to throw him under the bus.

    He did not fail a test. Easier to be judgmental that actually try to figure out what actuallu happened.

    People following sports are the biggest group of douchebags I have ever seen...they want to hang a guy who has the equivalent of NOTHING in his system, the same exact thing that he already served a suspension for, to be banned from a sport in which almost nobody can claim that they have never juiced.

    Meanwhile, the same fukks will be posting their NFL plays...just so you guys know, the NFL is the dirtiest sport in the US. Just put your head in the sand and enjoy the game though, right?

    People love to hate something they could never be.

  15. #155
    Slipknot26
    Slipknot26's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-17-15
    Posts: 5,046
    Betpoints: 1575

    He's failed 4 test before . Did you say that after Test 1, 2 or 3 ?
    My point was you can't get in someone else's head saying they wouldn't do it again .
    If he feels he can , he will . It won't be up to you or I "thinking" he would or wouldn't .
    If it stays in your system 18-24 months why the fukk setup a fight at month 16 ?
    This wasn't Rocket Science yet you telling me they move this even for some mid card who failed ? Come on , BS , he would've got pulled and it stay in Vegas .

  16. #156
    Thrilla
    Goater a Legend
    Thrilla's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-10-15
    Posts: 13,811
    Betpoints: 17711

    Jon Jones joins Ariel Helwani after the UFC 232 press conference to explain his situation regarding him testing positive for performance enhancing substances prior to his fight with Alexander Gustafsson.

    Points Awarded:

    Sanity Check gave Thrilla 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  17. #157
    JIBBBY
    JIBBBY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-10-09
    Posts: 83,073
    Betpoints: 11862


  18. #158
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Jon Jones joins Ariel Helwani after the UFC 232 press conference to explain his situation regarding him testing positive for performance enhancing substances prior to his fight with Alexander Gustafsson.

    .

    Good info.


  19. #159
    Thrilla
    Goater a Legend
    Thrilla's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-10-15
    Posts: 13,811
    Betpoints: 17711

    Alexander Gustafsson previews his UFC 232 fight vs. Jon Jones with Ariel Helwani and discusses (0:18) his reaction to the relocation to Los Angeles, (1:44) if he thinks "Bones" is using steroids, and how Gustafsson’s relationship will be with the United States Anti-Doping Agency going forward.



    ESPN MMA’s Ariel Helwani and Brett Okamoto discuss the storylines surrounding UFC 232, with the event being moved from Las Vegas to Los Angeles with under a week’s notice due to Jon Jones’ failed drug tes



    Several fighters competing at UFC 232 speak with Ariel Helwani about the personal and financial impact of the event moving from Las Vegas to Los Angeles. They also give their thoughts on Jon Jones, whose failed drug test was catalyst for the location change.
    (0:00) Megan Anderson
    (1:48) Alex Volkanovski
    (3:33) Bevon Lewis
    (4:10) Ilir Latifi
    (5:34) Michael Chiesa


  20. #160
    Thrilla
    Goater a Legend
    Thrilla's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-10-15
    Posts: 13,811
    Betpoints: 17711


  21. #161
    Thrilla
    Goater a Legend
    Thrilla's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-10-15
    Posts: 13,811
    Betpoints: 17711

    Jibbby is your toe worse than Hunt's finger?

  22. #162
    Heltah Skeltah
    Heltah Skeltah's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-05-17
    Posts: 3,499
    Betpoints: 507

    Jones was supposed to be suspended 4 years for his first positive test but he struck a deal to corporate wth them..guy been snitching for years for USDA. penetrate him

  23. #163
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Suspending someone 4 years for a positive PED test is silly.

    Athletic commissions are way too severe with their penalties and fines.

First ... 2345
Top