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    UFC Fight Night 122: Bisping vs. Gastelum | November 25, 2017 (Shanghai, China)



    • Saturday 11.25.2017 at 03:35 AM ET
    • U.S. Broadcast: UFC Fight Pass
    • Name: UFC Fight Night 122: Bisping vs. Gastelum
    • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Shanghai


    • Ownership: WME-IMG
    • Venue: Mercedes-Benz Arena
    • Location: Shanghai, China
    • Enclosure: Octagon
    • Number of MMA Bouts: 12
    • Event Pages: Sherdog | Wikipedia | Promote




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    Here's my writeup of Li vs Ottow. It's a bit long:

    Zak Ottow has been fighting professionally since 2012, but somehow looks older than his 30 years. Maybe it's the years spent playing college football, or the years spent juggling fighting in regionals while running his own gym and managing a fight promotion. Without a big win against a quality opponent, he didn't seem like a fighter that would make it to the UFC any time soon.

    Still, Ottow got his opportunity to fight in the big show as a late notice replacement for Bobby Green over a year ago to face Josh Burkman. Although originally a LW bout for Burkman, the fight was held at WW. Even though it was 2 weeks notice for Ottow, he was already preparing for a fight for the next weekend in Legacy FC. Though Ottow came away with the win, it was a competitive fight where a takedown or combo landed could've swayed a round in either's favor. It was also a fight against a LW fighter in Burkman who would go on to lose his next two fights in the first round to bring his record over the last 7 fights to 1-6.

    Always game, Ottow accepted a fight in Brazil against BJJ world champion Sergio Moraes. Despite being pretty close to a grappling specialist, Moraes chose to strike with Ottow in the last two rounds, and won the decision with really ugly looping counter punches that would come at odd angles and tag Ottow coming in. In the third round, Moraes landed maybe the most significant blow of the match, timing a naked leg kick and stumbling Ottow with a straight right. Earlier, a naked leg kick led to Ottow being taken down and laid upon for the whole first round.

    In his 3rd fight, Ottow won a comfortable decision against Kuichi Kunimoto, landing some compact straight punches and kicks to control the standup exchanges. Ottow won the 2nd round with his grappling, but was put on his back in the beginning of the 3rd and didn't get up until a few seconds before the end of the match.

    Though winning 2 out of 3 of his UFC fights, it seems as if Ottow has barely scraped by in the big leagues. He is a technically sound striker who doesn't get too wild, but lacks power to seriously threaten any of his opponents (he has 1 TKO victory in his last 15 fights and that was against an undersized opponent). His lack of head movement and inability to slip out of the pocket after throwing his single or at most doubled up shots means he is hittable and can be countered. He appears to be a competent grappler but doesn't appear to be very strong and can be controlled for long periods of time on his back.

    All of the above weaknesses will play into the strengths of Li Jingliang. Li is 5-2 in the UFC, but has faced mostly weak UFC competition with the exception of Nordine Taleb (who most fans believe he beat), and a very game Frank Camacho (although Camacho's quality wasn't well known before the fight). Still, what we've seen from Li so far indicates that he'll be a tough matchup for Ottow.

    In the grappling department, Li has shown good strength in the clinch, solid defensive wrestling, and powerful ground strikes. Though he earned his nickname "the Leech" by being a tenacious grinder, in his last few fights, he's turned into and powerful striker in his last few fights. Though he has shown good head movement, and even some flashes of brilliance with slip counters, he's still hittable at times, eating otherwise fight ending power shots from Bobby Nash and Frank Camacho. Luckily his chin is ironclad and has held up.

    Offensively, Li has shown pretty nice timing and counters. Against a naked leg kick by Nash, he timed a strong right straight right down the pipe. This same right hand would later land flush on Nash's chin and eventually lead to a KO. In the Camacho fight, he would land it several times from distance. He can get a bit creative at times, stepping in with uppercuts to split the guard of his opponents.

    It's really hard to see where Ottow has an advantage in this fight. Ottow doesn't have the power to scare Li off, nor does he put together enough strikes in combination (as Li's head movement is usually good enough to slip the first couple of strikes, but can be caught by a 3rd or 4th). If the looping wide punches of Moraes can land against a stationary Ottow, the much more powerful, straighter, and better-timed punches of Li should catch Ottow more often and with more of an impact. If Moraes can time Ottow's naked kicks for takedowns and counters, than Li can do the same as well.

    Thinking about this matchup, Ottow seems like the perfect opponent for Li to show off his skills without really being threatened. Given that the fight will be in Shanghai, one might think that the favorable matchup is intentional given the large and untapped Chinese market. Li is the favorite sitting at -170 but given the matchup and the home soil advantage, I think there may still be some value there.

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    Man i miss the locksmiths event posts. He posts the fights and the odds. This has neither...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Man i miss the locksmiths event posts. He posts the fights and the odds. This has neither...
    Per your request, I've added the fights and odds. Lmk what else would make the opening post better. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Per your request, I've added the fights and odds. Lmk what else would make the opening post better. Thanks.
    Thank you. Sorry if i sounded like an ass lol. Just i usually only use this to remember the fights and odds.

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    Glad to see we both like Jingliang Turbo. I’m not seeing much else on this card betting wise. Planning to devote most of my tape study time for the week to 218.

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    China card could be tricky.. Bisping might have a chance against Gas.. I wonder if Gas can even make weight? Bisping by decision could be the call...

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    Im going to lose so much money on this card going to drink beer and eat leftover pumpkin pie the whole time

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    Gonna need to crowd source our efforts to find tape on some of these regional fighters. I have links to a couple of Wuligi Bureb and Yanan **'s fights. I'll post when I get home. If anyone finds any obscure fight bids of these regional fighters please share the links.

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    Wuliji Buren
    Fight #1:Not sure the opponent or date of this fight. Buren in the red trunks.
    https://v.qq.com/x/page/t0550t2uvnm.html

    Fight #2: Buren had some viral fame for this slam KO of Beno Adamia in the 3rd round. This is the full fight video. Fight from January of this year, so it's at least pretty recent.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrp7EfNdEZ0


    Yanan **
    Fight #1: ** vs. Anjela Pink. Dec 2016.
    https://streamable.com/j4elx

    Fight #2: ** vs. Bo Meng. July 2015. This fight is strange. Looks like it's a bunch of short rounds and they didn't allow any grappling in the first few rounds at all. Pure kickboxing. Ref would separate when they clinched. Then all of a sudden grappling was allowed in later rounds.
    https://v.qq.com/x/page/w032372o6pr.html

    Fight #3: ** vs. Kunetskaya. The only time ** has fought decent competition and it doesn't look good. While this vid doesn't show the takedown, it shows Kunetskaya on top beating up on ** from inside of her guard. **'s guard is very ineffective. She doesn't control posture. Doesn't threaten subs or sweeps. Just lays flat on her back and takes a beating. This is Sept 2016. Barely over a year ago.
    https://twitter.com/jolassanda/status/772447150735298560?lang=en

    Good luck everyone! If you find additional links to other regional fighters, please share! It can be hard to locate some of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Here's my writeup of Li vs Ottow. It's a bit long:

    Zak Ottow has been fighting professionally since 2012, but somehow looks older than his 30 years. Maybe it's the years spent playing college football, or the years spent juggling fighting in regionals while running his own gym and managing a fight promotion. Without a big win against a quality opponent, he didn't seem like a fighter that would make it to the UFC any time soon.

    Still, Ottow got his opportunity to fight in the big show as a late notice replacement for Bobby Green over a year ago to face Josh Burkman. Although originally a LW bout for Burkman, the fight was held at WW. Even though it was 2 weeks notice for Ottow, he was already preparing for a fight for the next weekend in Legacy FC. Though Ottow came away with the win, it was a competitive fight where a takedown or combo landed could've swayed a round in either's favor. It was also a fight against a LW fighter in Burkman who would go on to lose his next two fights in the first round to bring his record over the last 7 fights to 1-6.

    Always game, Ottow accepted a fight in Brazil against BJJ world champion Sergio Moraes. Despite being pretty close to a grappling specialist, Moraes chose to strike with Ottow in the last two rounds, and won the decision with really ugly looping counter punches that would come at odd angles and tag Ottow coming in. In the third round, Moraes landed maybe the most significant blow of the match, timing a naked leg kick and stumbling Ottow with a straight right. Earlier, a naked leg kick led to Ottow being taken down and laid upon for the whole first round.

    In his 3rd fight, Ottow won a comfortable decision against Kuichi Kunimoto, landing some compact straight punches and kicks to control the standup exchanges. Ottow won the 2nd round with his grappling, but was put on his back in the beginning of the 3rd and didn't get up until a few seconds before the end of the match.

    Though winning 2 out of 3 of his UFC fights, it seems as if Ottow has barely scraped by in the big leagues. He is a technically sound striker who doesn't get too wild, but lacks power to seriously threaten any of his opponents (he has 1 TKO victory in his last 15 fights and that was against an undersized opponent). His lack of head movement and inability to slip out of the pocket after throwing his single or at most doubled up shots means he is hittable and can be countered. He appears to be a competent grappler but doesn't appear to be very strong and can be controlled for long periods of time on his back.

    All of the above weaknesses will play into the strengths of Li Jingliang. Li is 5-2 in the UFC, but has faced mostly weak UFC competition with the exception of Nordine Taleb (who most fans believe he beat), and a very game Frank Camacho (although Camacho's quality wasn't well known before the fight). Still, what we've seen from Li so far indicates that he'll be a tough matchup for Ottow.

    In the grappling department, Li has shown good strength in the clinch, solid defensive wrestling, and powerful ground strikes. Though he earned his nickname "the Leech" by being a tenacious grinder, in his last few fights, he's turned into and powerful striker in his last few fights. Though he has shown good head movement, and even some flashes of brilliance with slip counters, he's still hittable at times, eating otherwise fight ending power shots from Bobby Nash and Frank Camacho. Luckily his chin is ironclad and has held up.

    Offensively, Li has shown pretty nice timing and counters. Against a naked leg kick by Nash, he timed a strong right straight right down the pipe. This same right hand would later land flush on Nash's chin and eventually lead to a KO. In the Camacho fight, he would land it several times from distance. He can get a bit creative at times, stepping in with uppercuts to split the guard of his opponents.

    It's really hard to see where Ottow has an advantage in this fight. Ottow doesn't have the power to scare Li off, nor does he put together enough strikes in combination (as Li's head movement is usually good enough to slip the first couple of strikes, but can be caught by a 3rd or 4th). If the looping wide punches of Moraes can land against a stationary Ottow, the much more powerful, straighter, and better-timed punches of Li should catch Ottow more often and with more of an impact. If Moraes can time Ottow's naked kicks for takedowns and counters, than Li can do the same as well.

    Thinking about this matchup, Ottow seems like the perfect opponent for Li to show off his skills without really being threatened. Given that the fight will be in Shanghai, one might think that the favorable matchup is intentional given the large and untapped Chinese market. Li is the favorite sitting at -170 but given the matchup and the home soil advantage, I think there may still be some value there.
    Nice write-up Turbo. I'm working this card from the bottom up... not as much to see in those regionals but I'll share what I've got so maybe we can streamline our processes a little bit.

    I haven't gone back and watched Ottow recently, but in my notes I have similar points: disappointing power given his size (seems to throw arm punches), and can be controlled when flattened out on his back. Of course that was against Moraes who could probably control a lot of people if he gets them flattened out. The power is worrisome because it seems like Jingliang will decide where this fight takes place. I don't recall the Kunimoto fight for Ottow, but previous to that he didn't commit to really any offensive wrestling vs. Burkman or Moraes, and he was taken down at times in those fights. If Jingliang decides to brawl, his chin and power should win out. If it hits the mat, you would think Jingliang is the one dictating. I have to look closer at this matchup but from your write-up and my notes I don't expect to be too excited for Ottow.

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    Man you are a life saver ... could not find tape o the guy you are great.

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    You can find more ** Li Ji Buren tape by searching for his name in Chinese characters. Cut and paste 乌力吉布仁 into Youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    You can find more ** Li Ji Buren tape by searching for his name in Chinese characters. Cut and paste 乌力吉布仁 into Youtube.
    Well that is Awesome

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    Finding that SBR is a much better resource than Twitter or Tracking service I use message board

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    You can find more ** Li Ji Buren tape by searching for his name in Chinese characters. Cut and paste 乌力吉布仁 into Youtube.
    Thanks for the advice Turbo!

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    Vanilla Gorillas Cardio needs some major help thought he could out volume Shamil ..... but can he do it over 3rds I am not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    You can find more ** Li Ji Buren tape by searching for his name in Chinese characters. Cut and paste 乌力吉布仁 into Youtube.
    Did you find more fights that I hadn't? I tried this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Did you find more fights that I hadn't? I tried this...
    Yeah at least two. His loss against Dong Gyu Kim is on YouTube. You'll see that Kim won that fight comfortably. No idea why it was a split decision.

    Another is a fight that's not even listed on Tapology against Vasily Yanko. This fight is interesting because Buren is winning the first 2 rounds but in the 3rd round, it looks like Yanko lands a legit knee to the gut (or liver) which crumples Buren over. Instead the ref stops the action like it was a nutshot, and Buren starts acting like he got hit in the nuts. It was fishy looking for sure. He later goes on to get triangled at the end.

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    What do you guys think about Muslim Salikhov? I'm really excited to see whether his devastating spinning kick knockouts will translate to the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    What do you guys think about Muslim Salikhov? I'm really excited to see whether his devastating spinning kick knockouts will translate to the UFC.
    Good Presser Boxing beats spinning shit. But I think he has take down defense and can land something when Mr. No Cardio fades. and slows down. Muslim should get the W but will he KO him I am not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Yeah at least two. His loss against Dong Gyu Kim is on YouTube. You'll see that Kim won that fight comfortably. No idea why it was a split decision.

    Another is a fight that's not even listed on Tapology against Vasily Yanko. This fight is interesting because Buren is winning the first 2 rounds but in the 3rd round, it looks like Yanko lands a legit knee to the gut (or liver) which crumples Buren over. Instead the ref stops the action like it was a nutshot, and Buren starts acting like he got hit in the nuts. It was fishy looking for sure. He later goes on to get triangled at the end.
    I watched one that said it was vs Yuan Ye which isn't on tapology either. Every fight I've seen of his he is careful and sound from range, closes distance to a strong body lock, takes his opponent down and then stands and plays the legs from standing, looking for a guard pass. I've seen strong top position and real nice transitions to mount and back. I wish I could see him not get his way. I'll have to go look some more, because I'm starting to think dog money and at home makes Buren a decent bet vs Dy who will almost certainly lose the fight if it takes place on the mat.

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    Does anyone have any tape on Cyril Askers Opponent .......... Yaozong Hu ................ having a rough time finding anything online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JollyRogerMMA View Post
    Does anyone have any tape on Cyril Askers Opponent .......... Yaozong Hu ................ having a rough time finding anything online.
    Tapology will have his name in Chinese. Copy/paste to YouTube and see what you get. I haven't gotten to that fight yet.

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    5 Unit Max Bet Kelvin Gastelum -260

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    It's gonna be Gas ITD or Bisping by decision... Goes one way or the other I think.. Bisping is getting up in age and Gas if he makes weight is as tough as nails, very hard to finish and always a tough out..

    Gas is coming off a tough loss to Chris Weidman, he's only 26 years old too.. Young mans sport.. Bisping could be in trouble the more I think about this match up... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kelvin-Gastelum-74700





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    Okay guys - play devil's advocate for me. I see no reason Sherman shouldn't be favored comfortably. He has the faster hands, and much more diverse striking attack that is improving every time out. He has good hips and he's decently nimble. Abdurakhimov's takedowns are less than stellar unless he can catch a kick, but Sherman's kick game is so diverse that I wonder if he'll have as much success timing them without risking opening himself up to feints and setups. From range, Abdurakhimov has no offense at all, and he regularly lunges in with awkward right hands that will open him up to Sherman's counters. Unless he controls Sherman on the mat or in the clinch (and even in the clinch he eats a lot of knees which Sherman does pretty well) I don't see how Abdurakhimov wins this bout.

    I see Sherman slowly accumulating strikes until Abdurakhimov starts to shoot and look for tie ups, and when Sherman gains comfort stuffing those shots I think he will just take more and more control.

    Both fighters have solid chins so I'm not expecting crazy fireworks, but I think Sherman holds a considerable edge in this fight. Anyone have this differently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Okay guys - play devil's advocate for me. I see no reason Sherman shouldn't be favored comfortably. He has the faster hands, and much more diverse striking attack that is improving every time out. He has good hips and he's decently nimble. Abdurakhimov's takedowns are less than stellar unless he can catch a kick, but Sherman's kick game is so diverse that I wonder if he'll have as much success timing them without risking opening himself up to feints and setups. From range, Abdurakhimov has no offense at all, and he regularly lunges in with awkward right hands that will open him up to Sherman's counters. Unless he controls Sherman on the mat or in the clinch (and even in the clinch he eats a lot of knees which Sherman does pretty well) I don't see how Abdurakhimov wins this bout.

    I see Sherman slowly accumulating strikes until Abdurakhimov starts to shoot and look for tie ups, and when Sherman gains comfort stuffing those shots I think he will just take more and more control.

    Both fighters have solid chins so I'm not expecting crazy fireworks, but I think Sherman holds a considerable edge in this fight. Anyone have this differently?
    I do not see the fight any differently I will not bet Sherman heavily though because Cardio is very important when deciding a contest. Shermans Cardio starts to become garbage in rd 2 ..... Abdurakhimov has a style that preserves his cardio and could decide the fight. That is main thing that scares me away from multiple Units on Sherman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JollyRogerMMA View Post
    I do not see the fight any differently I will not bet Sherman heavily though because Cardio is very important when deciding a contest. Shermans Cardio starts to become garbage in rd 2 ..... Abdurakhimov has a style that preserves his cardio and could decide the fight. That is main thing that scares me away from multiple Units on Sherman.
    Sherman's cardio looked decent against Grabowski (I think this fight could play out similarly) and when his cardio suffers it's usually after he has thrown three times the volume of what Abdurakhimov throws.

    Because of that second point, the high volume output of Sherman, i think even if he gasses and gets taken down and grinded on in the 3rd rd, there's a very good chance he's up 2rds already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Nice write-up Turbo. I'm working this card from the bottom up... not as much to see in those regionals but I'll share what I've got so maybe we can streamline our processes a little bit.

    I haven't gone back and watched Ottow recently, but in my notes I have similar points: disappointing power given his size (seems to throw arm punches), and can be controlled when flattened out on his back. Of course that was against Moraes who could probably control a lot of people if he gets them flattened out. The power is worrisome because it seems like Jingliang will decide where this fight takes place. I don't recall the Kunimoto fight for Ottow, but previous to that he didn't commit to really any offensive wrestling vs. Burkman or Moraes, and he was taken down at times in those fights. If Jingliang decides to brawl, his chin and power should win out. If it hits the mat, you would think Jingliang is the one dictating. I have to look closer at this matchup but from your write-up and my notes I don't expect to be too excited for Ottow.
    Just rewatched some Ottow tape and I have to say that while I really don't like his lack of power, his hands were quick and straight vs. Kunimoto which is the kind of thing that can land often on Jingliang, and he FINALLY showed a little bit of power with his counter right hook. His inside leg kick from southpaw stance was also pretty nice. I don't really see Jingliang finishing many TD attempts (if he even attempts any) in this fight, and I don't see Ottow forcing the issue either so I'm expecting a standup battle. I give the edge in power, chin, and distance control to Jingliang, but hand speed and kick game goes to Ottow. If Ottow wants to win this fight he will likely have to go the distance and carry a clear edge in strikes landed. I think Jingliang will be able to make this fight dirty and turn it into a battle of grit and toughness that he should be able to win. I dont LOVE Jingliang. I think he's worth a play, especially at home in China, but only a small play.

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    only a few days away from the fight night. is it really that hard for ufc to post up pic of the fighter?? almost half of fighters missing on the card. lack of professionalism coming from a 4 billion dollar company.
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    . 5 Units Sherman +115
    5 Units Max Kelvin Gastelum -260

    More incoming ........ Do not post Props

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Just rewatched some Ottow tape and I have to say that while I really don't like his lack of power, his hands were quick and straight vs. Kunimoto which is the kind of thing that can land often on Jingliang, and he FINALLY showed a little bit of power with his counter right hook. His inside leg kick from southpaw stance was also pretty nice. I don't really see Jingliang finishing many TD attempts (if he even attempts any) in this fight, and I don't see Ottow forcing the issue either so I'm expecting a standup battle. I give the edge in power, chin, and distance control to Jingliang, but hand speed and kick game goes to Ottow. If Ottow wants to win this fight he will likely have to go the distance and carry a clear edge in strikes landed. I think Jingliang will be able to make this fight dirty and turn it into a battle of grit and toughness that he should be able to win. I dont LOVE Jingliang. I think he's worth a play, especially at home in China, but only a small play.
    I don't see Ottow having a better kicking game at all. He doesn't set up his kicks and in the Moraes fight this caused him to get his kick caught in the 1st round and taken down. In the 3rd round, Moraes timed a kick and landed a clean right hand that wobbled Ottow. This is a BJJ specialist outstriking Ottow here. Li has a pretty good kicking game too and totally destroyed Camacho's lead leg in their fight. He was timing them pretty well apparently because he wasn't being countered off the kicks and Camacho closes distance pretty fast.

    What makes you think Ottow has fast hands? Except for landing a few combos on Kunimoto early in their fight, I can't recall a time in any of his three fights where he was catching his opponents off guard with fast punches. I remember Moraes able to avoid or slip most of Ottow's strikes by just backing up.

    I have a small play on Li right now but was considering a bit more so if you're seeing something I'm not, maybe you can point me to specific exchanges or moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    I don't see Ottow having a better kicking game at all. He doesn't set up his kicks and in the Moraes fight this caused him to get his kick caught in the 1st round and taken down. In the 3rd round, Moraes timed a kick and landed a clean right hand that wobbled Ottow. This is a BJJ specialist outstriking Ottow here. Li has a pretty good kicking game too and totally destroyed Camacho's lead leg in their fight. He was timing them pretty well apparently because he wasn't being countered off the kicks and Camacho closes distance pretty fast.

    What makes you think Ottow has fast hands? Except for landing a few combos on Kunimoto early in their fight, I can't recall a time in any of his three fights where he was catching his opponents off guard with fast punches. I remember Moraes able to avoid or slip most of Ottow's strikes by just backing up.

    I have a small play on Li right now but was considering a bit more so if you're seeing something I'm not, maybe you can point me to specific exchanges or moments.
    I'm small on Jingliang too. Wanted to get in before this line movement.

    I looked mostly at Ottow's fight with Kunimoto since that's his only UFC fight with a full camp. Round 1 of that fight Ottow's hands had decent speed with his 1-2 when he initiates, and his counter right hook out of his southpaw stance. He counters with a right hook, left cross combo that is easily the most crisp I've seen his hands. That said, his power still lacks. Nothing bothered Kunimoto.

    As for the kicks, he landed a lot of inside leg kicks from southpaw stance in that fight as well, but was able to throw the outside leg kick from orthodox too. Again, not particularly damaging but I think he will land some of these.

    I'm putting more stock in that fight because it should be his best representation of his skills with a full camp. Because of his lack of power or TD game, I still don't see this as a great spot for him, but on eye test alone I felt his hand speed looked improved early in the Kunimoto fight before all the grappling. In 3rds on the feet with Jingliang though, I think Jingliang's power and toughness will win out, but I do expect Ottow to have some moments of success since Jingliang has always been pretty hittable.

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