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    UFC 216: Ferguson vs. Lee (October 07, 2017)



    Pay-Per-View 10:00 pm ET
    Tony Ferguson vs Kevin Lee (for interim lightweight title)
    Derrick Lewis vs Fabricio Werdum
    Jessica Eye vs Paige VanZant
    Mark Godbeer vs Walt Harris
    Beneil Dariush vs Evan Dunham

    FXX 8:00 pm ET
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    Tom Duquesnoy vs Cody Stamann
    Poliana Botelho vs Pearl Gonzalez
    Bobby Green vs Lando Vannata

    UFC Fight Pass 6:30 pm ET
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    Thales Leites vs Brad Tavares
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    El Cucuy vs Lee.. Wow good fight!!!

    Lee will do his wrestling thing and I'm not so sure El Cucuy can land a funky darse sub on Lee. Cucuy will try his funking rolls to get up and maybe he will stay up and knock out Lee with strikes..

    Either way it's a hell of a fight.. That's one I'm looking forward to seeing.. I'll probably play it El Cucuy ITD hedged with Lee by decision....
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    thought wed see Ferg at -200 range

    i think he wins this fight imo, Kevin lees time will come but its BIG FERGS time to get the belt
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    Demetrious Johnson-Ray Borg Flyweight Title Bout Rescheduled for UFC 216

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Demetrious Johnson-Ray Borg Flyweight Title Bout Rescheduled for UFC 216
    great move by the UFC ... if borg misses weight he will be banished from 125.. guy better make weight here

    very solid card now imo
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    Why is Derick Lewis on this card and right before the main event? Thought he threw in the towell after his performance v Hunt, Werdum has be a huge fav there unless Lewis just couldn't be bothered to turn up in New Zealand he looked dreadful.

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    i don't know why but i think it'll be tough times here for ferguson and lee takes it. him and garbrandt have major star potential i know dana is hoping lee wins big time

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    I thought we would see The Baba Yaga at -20000... What a steal!!!! The Baba Yaga..

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    I thought Derrick Lewis retired? ....

    Werdum is gonna take down the black beast and sub him out.. Look for that Werdum sub prop when it comes out, odds could be brutal though...

    The Black Beast always has a chance at landing something big but I'm not betting on that in this fight against Werdum.. I think Werdum goes right for the clinch and trip take down...

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    I think Lee wins this. Ferguson talks a big game but he really isn't that dominant in his fights. He struggled vs Barboza and Vanatta. Sure, he beat RDA but we don't know the extent that RDA was struggling with his weight cut issues.

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    Big Ferg is better in every area then Lee imo , other then straight wrestling but over 5 rouds Lee will be exposed here
    Ferg ITD all day
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    UFC fighters with a very high fight IQ are Ferguson, McGregor, Garbrandt, DJohnson and Jedrzejczyk.
    If you bet against these fighters expect a high chance of losing your money.

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    can't stand ferguson. guy is the biggest geek there is, has zero appeal. hope lee busts that fool up

    werdum lol. guy is a joke. before the fight even starts he should just lay on his back because he's trash on his feet

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    jessica eye talking so much trash since she finally got her wish to move down in weight class. and she's still a dog to paige lmao.

    vanzant will starch eye. eye can't take a punch

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    This card is amazing Dunham Daruish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBlue77 View Post
    jessica eye talking so much trash since she finally got her wish to move down in weight class. and she's still a dog to paige lmao.

    vanzant will starch eye. eye can't take a punch
    Fight cancelled
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    smh lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Fight cancelled
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    This card is amazing Dunham Daruish...
    it does look like it will be an entertaining one, good matchups everywhere
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    Just bought tickets to this card today. Is anyone else going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Just bought tickets to this card today. Is anyone else going?
    get to see Big Ferg up close , nice man have a good time

    waiting for the next toronto card to go live
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    Ray Borg odds.. Lol.. Basically everyone is giving him 0 chance including me... .. Untouchable..

    Black Beast against Werdum..Hmmm?.. Kinda interesting..

    Black Beast always has a chance at the KO, but you gotta think Werdum will close the distance and take away that power, clinch and grab and eventually wear down Beast and get the take down.. Probably take the back with his Jits or maybe pound out the Beast on top.....

    I think you gotta go Beast by KO hedged Werdum by Sub or ITD..

    No KO prop out yet but you gotta imagine it's gonna very close to the ITD odds maybe even the same.. Beast isn't gonna sub out Werdum..

    1205 Lewis wins inside distance +300

    Sub prop isn't out yet either but you gotta think Werdum probably gets the sub on the beast rather then pound him out..

    Sat 10/7 1209 Werdum wins inside distance +136

    Not sure I see this fight going the distance.. If it does you gotta think Werdum will out work the gas challenged Beast.. It is only 3 rounds..

    1211 Werdum wins by 3 round decision +186

    If Werdum gets clipped standing and dropped this could possibly happen.. Strong ground punches always cancels out the submission attempts and in a hurry..

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    Early line out at Sportsbook for Duquesnoy vs Stamann. Looks like it's set at even -115/-115
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    werdum will destory black beast and show that theres levels to this shitt
    love black beast... sad he took this fight against this loser werdum
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    have to agree....also think Lee win and I love ferg as a fighter...you just cant mess up or his TD will get you....
    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    werdum will destory black beast and show that theres levels to this shitt
    love black beast... sad he took this fight against this loser werdum
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    Should be for a belt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    have to agree....also think Lee win and I love ferg as a fighter...you just cant mess up or his TD will get you....
    Yep but can KL hold Ferg down for 5 rounds? Not easily done.. Ferg is scrappy himself on the ground but Lee is a legit black belt with a very good wrestling base so it's hard to imagine El Cucuy getting the edge against Lee on the ground at any time..

    El Cucuy will have a cardio and standing advantage I believe and Kevin Lee doesn't like getting hit in the face, he immediately shoots and usually gets the TD's.. I see El Cucuy on his back the entire fight. Wrestlers rule..

    El Cucuy is not a huge one punch knock out artist either.. Tall and doesn't present elite take down defense either.. 5 rounds is a long time for El Cucuy to find Lee's chin though when the fight is standing..

    Lee by decision or El Cucuy ITD.. Hmmmm?

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    like Kevin lee and Ferguson so tough to cheer for anybody here but Ferguson is just a better mma fighter at this point of their careers plain and simple he has much more tools... in a 3 rounder I'd give lee a much better shot but 5 rounds he's probably getting finished here , Ferguson has way to much pressure and movement to be lay and prayed for 25 minutes by anybody at 55
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    like Kevin lee and Ferguson so tough to cheer for anybody here but Ferguson is just a better mma fighter at this point of their careers plain and simple he has much more tools... in a 3 rounder I'd give lee a much better shot but 5 rounds he's probably getting finished here , Ferguson has way to much pressure and movement to be lay and prayed for 25 minutes by anybody at 55
    I think you may be right Fire.. Odds reflect this in the prop also at -142 unfortunately..

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    Why does this card get no advertising? This card is amazing......Should be for a belt....Last 3 fights could all be a main...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Why does this card get no advertising? This card is amazing......Should be for a belt....Last 3 fights could all be a main...
    It's still a ways away.. They will begin promoting this card shortly I'm sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I think you may be right Fire.. Odds reflect this in the prop also at -142 unfortunately..
    tough spot to bet... ill most likely just watch that fight as a fan... dont really see any great betting opportunities and i like both guys

    but imo i think Ferg wins this 80%+ of the time, hes just better at every aspect at this point other then pure wrestling , but even if Lee gets Ferguson down he will be threatening with scrambles and submissions..... the best bet i could think of in this scrap would be Ferguson by SUBMISSION imo.... he likes to snatch subs up after tagging people as well which i could see happening

    wonder what the odds will be at
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    Ferguson ML all the way down to (-170)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Ferguson ML all the way down to (-170)
    jump on that SHITTT

    you see ferguson and werdum at the lunch scrum lolll
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    jump on that SHITTT

    you see ferguson and werdum at the lunch scrum lolll
    Nah what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Nah what happened

    I give it to Ferguson. Werdum was spamming higher volume but Ferguson clearly landed the more significant shots and had Werdum moving backwards.
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