1. 07-24-17 06:29 PM #36
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    JJ gonna spank DC.. No brainer..
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  2. 07-24-17 06:55 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    This got next... Let the capping begin!!!!

    The one thing I know for sure is I will be changing my Avatar picture one way or the other after the Demain Maia fight ..
    I still think its dirtnap time for Maia Jibbs, but I do plan to hedge with Maia in a couple o parlays, cause while I doubt Maia gets the TD, he may not have too. I keep thinking back to woodley/wonderboy 1 where he knocks him down and instead of mashing him into the mat he trys to lock up a guillotine...

    Worst mistake woodley could make would be to go down to the mat with a Maia who isn't dead yet...can't help but feel woodley losing here would really be cause of a mistake he makes, literally his fight to lose.
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  3. 07-24-17 07:54 PM #38
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    Great thread guys. So many MMA sharps contributing. Love to follow.

    All the motivation to destroy is on the side of JJ. If Bones loses this fight he has to climb the mountain again. He will not let this happen. He has listened to DC's sh*t for two years. He has been mocked in public over and over.

    This is a moment in history that JJ has to win.

    DC's UFC sportscasting career is waiting.
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  5. 07-24-17 08:59 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsynweap84 View Post
    I still think its dirtnap time for Maia Jibbs, but I do plan to hedge with Maia in a couple o parlays, cause while I doubt Maia gets the TD, he may not have too. I keep thinking back to woodley/wonderboy 1 where he knocks him down and instead of mashing him into the mat he trys to lock up a guillotine...

    Worst mistake woodley could make would be to go down to the mat with a Maia who isn't dead yet...can't help but feel woodley losing here would really be cause of a mistake he makes, literally his fight to lose.
    Maia is toast in this match up.. Only shot he has is surviving a few rounds by trying to pull guard and then getting that one take down late when Woodley is a bit gassed.. Grab a quick single and run the table and then get top position, then maybe work to take the back and sink in the hooks and then the body lock.. Then anything is possible... Maia does still have some of the best take downs in the business and that can't be over looked even against Woodley..

    It's a long shot and the odds are crap... If you are gonna hedge, hedge with this..

    1135 Maia wins by submission +280



    I hate to say it or see it but this is the most likely outcome..

    1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO -120
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  6. 07-24-17 10:12 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Maia is toast in this match up.. Only shot he has is surviving a few rounds by trying to pull guard and then getting that one take down late when Woodley is a bit gassed.. Grab a quick single and run the table and then get top position, then maybe work to take the back and sink in the hooks and then the body lock.. Then anything is possible... Maia does still have some of the best take downs in the business and that can't be over looked even against Woodley..

    It's a long shot and the odds are crap... If you are gonna hedge, hedge with this..

    1135 Maia wins by submission +280



    I hate to say it or see it but this is the most likely outcome..

    1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO -120
    Jibby Maia wins inside distance is @+285
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    Quote Originally Posted by KalouKalou View Post
    Jibby Maia wins inside distance is @+285
    Even better, good eye.. Funny when prop odds go in that direction.. ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Maia is toast in this match up.. Only shot he has is surviving a few rounds by trying to pull guard and then getting that one take down late when Woodley is a bit gassed.. Grab a quick single and run the table and then get top position, then maybe work to take the back and sink in the hooks and then the body lock.. Then anything is possible... Maia does still have some of the best take downs in the business and that can't be over looked even against Woodley..

    It's a long shot and the odds are crap... If you are gonna hedge, hedge with this..

    1135 Maia wins by submission +280



    I hate to say it or see it but this is the most likely outcome..

    1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO -120
    The great Jake Shields lasted against the big bad T.Wood. You might as well have a T.Wood ava.. Smh Jibbbers.
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    I think this has a decent shot, but I'd like some thoughts before I pull the trigger...

    1. 7/29/2017 11:59 PM MMA Props Fighting 1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO* +435 vs Any other result
    2. 7/29/2017 11:30 PM MMA Props Fighting 1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO* -120 vs Any other result
    3. 7/29/2017 11:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1241 Justino wins by TKO/KO* -395 vs Any other result
    Risking $100.00 To Win $1,129.15


    Not so worried bout Twood or Cyborg, but JJ has got 5 rounds, and some bigger power than previous fights...could 5 be enough?
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    Judging by jones three dec win in a row, thats a trend. Cormier getting hit by AJ and not having any past chin issues as also a trend. Both of which goes against betting on Jones KO. Justine and woodley should win by KO. I think jones are more likely to win by submission, so maybe inside distance is safer, but a dec is as likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChael View Post
    The great Jake Shields lasted against the big bad T.Wood. You might as well have a T.Wood ava.. Smh Jibbbers.
    That was a long time ago (5 years ago) and Twood has gotten better since then.. That fight was also a 3 rounder and not a 5 rounder like this one.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tyron-Woodley-42605

    Jake Shields back then was a power wrestler with top level Jits skills and had a solid chin.. Tough match up for anyone.. Jake Shields completely man handled and beat Demian Maia back in the day also (over 4 years ago)..

    Today Maia isn't getting any younger either.. He'll be 40 years old in 3 months.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Demian-Maia-14637



    I'd be very happy if Maia beat T-Wood but I just don't see it happening.. I'll hedge just incase the miracle happens, but I'm pretty sure I'll just be pissing away that hedge money..
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  13. 07-25-17 11:56 AM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsynweap84 View Post
    I think this has a decent shot, but I'd like some thoughts before I pull the trigger...

    1. 7/29/2017 11:59 PM MMA Props Fighting 1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO* +435 vs Any other result
    2. 7/29/2017 11:30 PM MMA Props Fighting 1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO* -120 vs Any other result
    3. 7/29/2017 11:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1241 Justino wins by TKO/KO* -395 vs Any other result
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    Not so worried bout Twood or Cyborg, but JJ has got 5 rounds, and some bigger power than previous fights...could 5 be enough?
    Really doubt Jones gets a KO/TKO here. Why not take Jones -5.5 instead? Worse odds but way better chance of hitting.
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    I agree with Hugo. You may win but, Jones never wins by TKO why bet it? I dont understand the line of thinking. Seems counterintuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Really doubt Jones gets a KO/TKO here. Why not take Jones -5.5 instead? Worse odds but way better chance of hitting.
    Agreed.. DC is hard to take out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    I agree with Hugo. You may win but, Jones never wins by TKO why bet it? I dont understand the line of thinking. Seems counterintuitive.
    What BJ? Do your homework bud, JJ has 9 ko's in 22 fight wins.. Has solid ground and pound, wicked elbows when he postures up and drops then down.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jon-Jones-27944

    The problem is DC has never been finished, almost impossible to KO (Rumble Johnson hit him clean and nothing happened)..


    This punch landed would have KO'd most other fighters.. Not DC... I think we all can agree though BJ that Rumble hits harder then JJ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsynweap84 View Post
    I think this has a decent shot, but I'd like some thoughts before I pull the trigger...

    1. 7/29/2017 11:59 PM MMA Props Fighting 1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO* +435 vs Any other result
    2. 7/29/2017 11:30 PM MMA Props Fighting 1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO* -120 vs Any other result
    3. 7/29/2017 11:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1241 Justino wins by TKO/KO* -395 vs Any other result
    Risking $100.00 To Win $1,129.15


    Not so worried bout Twood or Cyborg, but JJ has got 5 rounds, and some bigger power than previous fights...could 5 be enough?
    Parlays are how bettors lie to themselves about how much juice they're laying.
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    Interesting fact about Bones. He has both taken down AND out-struck every UFC opponent except Jake O'Brien who he submitted without taking down. That's 16 of 17 UFC opponents that he's out-volumed and put on the mat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    What BJ? Do your homework bud, JJ has 9 ko wins in 22 tights.. Has solid ground and pound, wicked elbows when he postures up.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jon-Jones-27944

    The problem is DC has never been finished, almost impossible to KO (Rumble Johnson hit him clean and nothing happened)..
    As always Jibby, were talking about UFC, and not regional fights against low level competition 10 years ago. Jibby, context
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  20. 07-25-17 01:38 PM #55
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    jones isnt tko/koing DC would need +1000 or more for that prop imo
    only way hes finishing is by submission especially with all the ground training hes doing lately.. id say 70% decision, 25% submission , 5% tko at most chances if Jones Wins ...... i think DC would have a better chance to TKO jones then the other way around actually
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  21. 07-25-17 02:05 PM #56
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    Dc will win this fight
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  22. 07-25-17 02:06 PM #57
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    Anyone think that being off gear for the past couple of years will negatively affect Jones here? He had some questionable hormone levels after the first DC fight. Then he was flagged by USADA and suspended of course. Do any of you guys buy his dick pills excuse?

    Either way it's a factor that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Dc will win this fight
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Why?
    Since I believe this fight won't happen since Jones will do something dumb to have to pull out or get suspended. So he will look like a dumbass and Cormier will retain the belt without having to fight.
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    Love the over 2.5 in the Moicano/Ortega fight. Ortegas finished all 4 of his UFC fights but moicano is a point fighter with good defense and bjj that can neutralize ortegas bjj.

    Ortega doesn't throw combos and is a slow starter. He usually capitalizes with his opponent fades. I don't think moicano will fade as Ortega won't make him work.

    Add in the fact that Ortega is coming off injury and moicano should be a solid bet. Although Ortega will have judges advantage via being near home in Anaheim (he's from Torrance)

    Moicano -145
    over2.5 rounds -225?


    Small hedge on Ortega via sub perhaps.
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    So Ready for this card...
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  27. 07-25-17 03:29 PM #62
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    What about his KO of Brad Bernard in FFP Untamed 20 LOLO....
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    As always Jibby, were talking about UFC, and not regional fights against low level competition 10 years ago. Jibby, context
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    2 KO/TKO in his last 10 Fights....VS SHOGUN AND CHAEL SONNEN.....not saying it cant happen but those KO/TKO was mostly at the beginning vs nobodys.....Hell Vitor and Rashas made it into the 4th and 5th....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    2 KO/TKO in his last 10 Fights....VS SHOGUN AND CHAEL SONNEN.....not saying it cant happen but those KO/TKO was mostly at the beginning vs nobodys.....Hell Vitor and Rashas made it into the 4th and 5th....
    Right.. Now he's fighting a top 3 heavyweight in Daniel Cormier at 205... I can't wait.
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    Haha
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    The real fight of the year...
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  32. 07-25-17 05:47 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    jones isnt tko/koing DC would need +1000 or more for that prop imo
    only way hes finishing is by submission especially with all the ground training hes doing lately.. id say 70% decision, 25% submission , 5% tko at most chances if Jones Wins ...... i think DC would have a better chance to TKO jones then the other way around actually
    Agreed if we must choose.....

    1037 Cormier wins by TKO/KO +710

    Still if DC is beat up and gassed in the 4th or 5th round there is small chance JJ can finish DC.. Very small chance though... I just don't see either of these guys getting finished in this fight.. Repeat of the first fight.. JJ by decision..
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    Yea I admit hindsight all points made suggest the fight goes the distance for this.

    I know Rumble didn't finish DC, but Rumble apparently is also half retarded, he tried to wrestle him after catching him...I really can't say DC did anything surprising in their second fight, just took advantage of that big dumb idiot. As for his first fight, he just gassed without landing enough damage.

    I was thinking of Cormier by TKO, because honestly I can't see him really winning any other way. but I have a hard time seeing him win at all. Hmmmm...

    ITD for Cormier me I think might be better, I could see him hurting Jones with a lucky punch and transitioning to a sub...

    Originally the parlay was JJ straight ML, Twood and Cyborg by TKO, at +216 odds, boys at work think JJ finishes, course they also don't bet.

    Think I'm gonna have to scrap this one and just take the safe parlay, JJ straight up.

    1. 7/29/2017 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones* -260 vs Daniel Cormier
    2. 7/29/2017 11:30 PM MMA Props Fighting 1141 Woodley wins by TKO/KO* -120 vs Any other result
    3. 7/29/2017 11:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1241 Justino wins by TKO/KO* -395 vs Any other result
    Risking $100.00 To Win $218.11

    Safer. Course I cannot submit anything until Friday morning, after official weigh-ins, UFC track record says at least one fight here gets canned, weight issues I'd say Cormier/Cyborg first, specially with Cali's new rules, and Cerrone because he likes to push his luck doing really dumb shit.

    Be shocked if this card holds together. Cancellations murder parlays though, and 5Dimes will not let you resubmit them because of cancellations. Course even friday is promise to no one...thanks dike Nunes...

    445088995-1 6/20/17 11:00pm $125.00 $4,886.86 Pending 3 Team Parlay
    Cancelled 7/8/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Valentina Shevchenko +105* vs Amanda Nunes
    Pending 7/29/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones -265* vs Daniel Cormier
    Pending 8/26/17 11:00pm Boxing Props Fighting 1015 McGregor wins in round 1-6 +1320* vs Any other result
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    I like how fit DC looks for this camp and Rockhold has been training with him hard... he has a similiar body type to Jones
    I think this fight is gonna be a lot closer then people think imo....


    side note anybody thinking tonya evinger can last over 1.5 rounds against cyborg she seems pretty tough but havent seen all her scraps??? O 1.5 is +210 for this scrap i like that number
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    I like how fit DC looks for this camp and Rockhold has been training with him hard... he has a similiar body type to Jones
    I think this fight is gonna be a lot closer then people think imo....


    side note anybody thinking tonya evinger can last over 1.5 rounds against cyborg she seems pretty tough but havent seen all her scraps??? O 1.5 is +210 for this scrap i like that number
    It's more then likely Cyborg gets the KO period, so it's hard to call whether it comes before or after the halfway mark.. Tonya seems tough and has never been KO'd but she's never fought anyone like Cyborg either. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tonya-Evinger-18248

    15 of Cyborgs 17 wins have come by way of KO. Most of Cyborg's KO wins come early in fights also.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cristiane-Justino-14477
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