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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    That would be shocking but I think Bamgbose is getting murked. Badly. First round.
    Agreed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    penetrate TONS of value on Assuncao here...guy has really only lost to killers.
    Have you watched Marlon Moraes fight? Assencao is tough dude no doubt, well rounded but I think the striking and speed advantage clearly favors Marlon.. I've watched just about all his fights in WSOF and I'm impressed with the way he brings it standing..

    I'm liking Moraes myself and there is even a chance he might get the KO but it probably goes to decision since Rafael is so damn tough to finish.. Granite chin.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Raphael-Assuncao-9574

    This is a huge step up in competition and Marlon is facing octagon jitters and fighting a tough Brazilian in Brazil. Tall order for Marlon but I think he answers the bell with flying colors..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Marlon-Moraes-30936

    Odds are brutal on the straight

    UFC 212 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - HSBC Arena - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - FS1
    Sat 6/3 1501 Marlon Moraes -190 o2½ -255
    9:30PM 1502 Raphael Assuncao +165 u2½ +215


    I think Moraes out points Raphael with his speed and striking round after round..

    1507 Moraes wins by 3 round decision
    +125

    Certainly gonna hedge with the ITD but maybe just the submission considering Rafael has 11 sub wins on his record and only 3 wins by KO...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Raphael-Assuncao-9574 At these prices the hedge is probably worth it..

    1509 Assuncao wins inside distance
    +600


    1531 Assuncao wins by submission
    +1458
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    What about Moraes -3.5 (+125)? Covers finish and wide decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    What about Moraes -3.5 (+125)? Covers finish and wide decision.
    Solid Hugo good eye... I may hit it..

    Still working this card late tonight.. Really trying to get it right after the last card...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    This write up is dead on IMO. Beltran a good looking dog here but not until I see him at weigh ins.
    You still going with Beltran Shaggy? I'm finding it hard to bet against the undefeated Brazilian fighting in Brazil.. Not so sure the 0 will go..

    This is the last fight I'm having a bit of trouble playing on the card.. Don't like the straight odds for Deiveson.. Hugo how you playing this? Beltan has been stopped a few times in fights, and DF has 5 wins by sub and 5 wins by KO but I can't vouge for any fighters he fought outside of the UFC.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Deive...ueiredo-110485

    2109 Alcantara wins inside distance
    +172


    UFC 212 - Flyweight 3 rounds - HSBC Arena - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - UFC Fight Pass
    Sat 6/3 2101 Marco Beltran +125 o1½ -210
    6:30PM 2102 Deiveson Alcantara -145 u1½ +175




    Marco
    Beltran
    "Psycho"
    vs
    Deiveson
    Figueiredo

    MEXICO
    Country
    BRAZIL

    8-5-0
    Record
    11-0-0

    25%
    KO/TKO
    45%

    50%
    SUB
    45%

    25%
    DEC
    9%

    68 in
    Height
    65 in

    125 lbs
    Weight
    125 lbs

    69 in
    Reach
    68 in

    39 in
    Leg Reach
    38 in

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    Some of the KO fastest props are tempting as well... Looking outside the box now with props..

    11011 Vitor Belfort wins fastest KO +400

    11009 Nate Marquardt wins fastest KO
    +800

    11013 Oluwale Bamgbose wins fastest KO +800

    11015 Paulo Henrique Costa wins fastest KO
    +400


    FASTEST SUB FINISHES - I'm pretty sure one of these 2 land..

    11077 Antonio Carlos Junior wins fastest SUB
    +450

    11079 Matthew Lopez wins fastest SUB
    +430

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    penetrate TONS of value on Assuncao here...guy has really only lost to killers.
    And Moraes is a killer. Assuncao has been losing some grit lately too IMO. Moraes is Brazilian too so hes not on enemy turf. I expect a passing of torch with clear Moraes victory, maybe even stoppage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    You still going with Beltran Shaggy? I'm finding it hard to bet against the undefeated Brazilian fighting in Brazil.. Not so sure the 0 will go..
    Yes. He looked a bit stringy at weigh ins but he seemed to have energy. Didn't look like he was feeling poorly from it. You have to dig but you can find some recent tape of Deiveson and he just looks sloppy to me and not all that dynamic. I do think he is durable and has a little bit of power, but for me, Beltran has the skill and length to stay outside, use kicks to tally points and land some decent staight counters when Deiveson rushes in with his wide right hand.

    It is hard to know the competition he was facing, but to my eye, Alcantara also doesn't have good enough takedowns to land often or secure for any amount of time vs. Beltran. If I'm wrong about that, then he can definitely win by smothering Beltran, but I'll take the dog who I think is more skilled here. I think Deiveson chases him around the cage looking for a big right hand and Beltran will spend most of the fight not being there for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    And Moraes is a killer. Assuncao has been losing some grit lately too IMO. Moraes is Brazilian too so hes not on enemy turf. I expect a passing of torch with clear Moraes victory, maybe even stoppage.
    ^^^What he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    You still going with Beltran Shaggy? I'm finding it hard to bet against the undefeated Brazilian fighting in Brazil.. Not so sure the 0 will go..

    This is the last fight I'm having a bit of trouble playing on the card.. Don't like the straight odds for Deiveson.. Hugo how you playing this? Beltan has been stopped a few times in fights, and DF has 5 wins by sub and 5 wins by KO but I can't vouge for any fighters he fought outside of the UFC.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Deive...ueiredo-110485

    2109 Alcantara wins inside distance
    +172


    UFC 212 - Flyweight 3 rounds - HSBC Arena - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - UFC Fight Pass
    Sat 6/3 2101 Marco Beltran +125 o1½ -210
    6:30PM 2102 Deiveson Alcantara -145 u1½ +175




    Marco
    Beltran
    "Psycho"
    vs
    Deiveson
    Figueiredo

    MEXICO
    Country
    BRAZIL

    8-5-0
    Record
    11-0-0

    25%
    KO/TKO
    45%

    50%
    SUB
    45%

    25%
    DEC
    9%

    68 in
    Height
    65 in

    125 lbs
    Weight
    125 lbs

    69 in
    Reach
    68 in

    39 in
    Leg Reach
    38 in
    Fight #1: Beltran vs. Figueiredo (DEBUT)
    Figueiredo ITD (+146) 1u
    Figueiredo Round 1 (+375) .5u

    Hedge:
    Beltran Submission (+1000) .25u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Fight #1: Beltran vs. Figueiredo (DEBUT)
    Figueiredo ITD (+146) 1u
    Figueiredo Round 1 (+375) .5u

    Hedge:
    Beltran Submission (+1000) .25u
    Uh oh.

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    Hugo are you playing the "always bet the guy with 1,000 different names" lean on that one? Deiveson Alcantara Figueredo Daico Deus de Guerra.

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    looking forward to this card..

    no bet on the main event but pulling hard for Holloway

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    ^^ Thanks for the input guys on the first fight of the card.. Still left scratching my head on that first fight with Beltran lol. Maybe I pass, or throw a 50 post on Figueiredo ITD +172.. Game time decision.. ...

    I just hate betting on undefeated fighters that had more then 10 pro fights.. Shag you could be right though with Beltran..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    looking forward to this card..

    no bet on the main event but pulling hard for Holloway
    Can't blame ya for the no play Jake.. Tough fight to call.. I'm going with Holloway by KO and Aldo by decision hedged for profit either way myself.. Not loading up though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Can't blame ya for the no play Jake.. Tough fight to call.. I'm going with Holloway by KO and Aldo by decision hedged for profit either way myself.. Not loading up though....
    I really think this is the best way to play it but I prefer Holloway (scorecards = no action) +110

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    Hugo I'm tailing you on your play in that first fight.. I like the hedge in that fight with the Beltran by sub.. I'll gamble, small stuff to start off.

    $50.00 $83.50 Pending 6/3/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2109 Alcantara wins inside distance +167* vs Not Alcantara inside distance

    Hedge

    $15.00 $162.50 Pending 6/3/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2127 Beltran wins by submission +1083* vs Any other result
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    What do you all think about the Alcantara/Kelleher fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Hugo are you playing the "always bet the guy with 1,000 different names" lean on that one? Deiveson Alcantara Figueredo Daico Deus de Guerra.
    More names = better fighter always. No other reasoning here haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    What do you all think about the Alcantara/Kelleher fight?
    Iuri by early sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KalouKalou View Post
    I really think this is the best way to play it but I prefer Holloway (scorecards = no action) +110
    On that too. Think he is the more likely finisher.
    Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 06-03-17 at 11:39 AM.

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    UFC 212 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - HSBC Arena - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - FS1
    Sat 6/3 1801 Brian Kelleher +275 o2½ -125
    8:00PM 1802 Iuri Alcantara -335 u2½ +105

    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    What do you all think about the Alcantara/Kelleher fight?
    No gimmie fight JC either way.. Alcantara has been ripping off sub wins in his last 2 fights.. Kelleher has lost 4 fights by sub... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brian-Kelleher-53666

    Kelleher Octagon debut against a Brazilian in Brazil is a tall order.. Odds suck on the straight so I played it like this.. Small play...

    $50.00 $95.00 Pending 6/3/17 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1831 Alcantara wins by submission +190* vs Any other result


    FS1



    Iuri
    Alcantara
    "Marajo"
    vs
    Brian
    Kelleher
    "Boom"

    BRAZIL
    Country
    UNITED STATES

    34-7-0, 1NC
    Record
    16-7-0

    38%
    KO/TKO
    38%

    38%
    SUB
    44%

    21%
    DEC
    19%

    69 in
    Height
    66 in

    135 lbs
    Weight
    135 lbs

    71 in
    Reach
    66 in

    40 in
    Leg Reach
    38 in

    Significant Strikes

    2.65
    Landed per minute
    000

    46.46%
    Accuracy
    000%

    2.54
    Absorbed P/M
    000

    48.21%
    Defense
    000%
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 06-03-17 at 11:42 AM.

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    Wasn't that pumped for this card during the leadup, but ill be honest im getting a little steamed up for tonight guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Wasn't that pumped for this card during the leadup, but ill be honest im getting a little steamed up for tonight guys.
    I actually think this card is kinda garbage for talent.. Shiity fighters, old fighters, and a bunch of cans.. Still worth betting on though as always..

    Best fight is the main event and really that's the one fight I'm looking forward to watching the most on this entire card.. Worst part is this event is PPV... There should be alot of KO's and finishes though so maybe it will be good... A few of the early fights are decent.. The Chick fight is decent with Claudia as well if you like the chicks..

    My honest take anyways.. Most of my bets are just in the 50 to 100 range.. Going easy with this event.. I probably won't be winning alot or losing alot either way..

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    on aldo myself decision
    but if anybody likes holloway TKO/KO +550 range could have value if you think he can finish Aldo late

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    Anyone here think that Spicely has a shot against Shoeface? I was able to get a good amount of Shoeface at -212 and looks like I can arb out at +243. Seems like a bad matchup for Spicely since I can't think of a clear way to victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
    Anyone here think that Spicely has a shot against Shoeface? I was able to get a good amount of Shoeface at -212 and looks like I can arb out at +243. Seems like a bad matchup for Spicely since I can't think of a clear way to victory.
    Think Spicely Decision is almost impossible. He could maybe catch a sub or flash KO but that's unlikely. If you want to arb out I'd go with Spicely ITD (+500) or Sub (+600)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Think Spicely Decision is almost impossible. He could maybe catch a sub or flash KO but that's unlikely. If you want to arb out I'd go with Spicely ITD (+500) or Sub (+600)
    Hard to disagree with this. I would do the same if I was in earlier and could've gotten ACJ at a better price. I'm considering playing fight does not go to decision, but I'll most likely lay off.

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    My 3 main plays

    Aldo by DEC
    Nate by TKO
    Medeiros by TKO

    BOL GUYS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Think Spicely Decision is almost impossible. He could maybe catch a sub or flash KO but that's unlikely. If you want to arb out I'd go with Spicely ITD (+500) or Sub (+600)
    Spicely is horrible standing and decent on the ground.. Kinda mirrors his opponent Junior actually.. So it comes down to who's better on the ground or standing? Both are one trick ponies but I think Spicely gets out muscled and grounded in this fight and maybe sub'd.. I think it's a question whether or not Spicely get's sub'd out or pounded out in my mind from the bottom position?...

    Junior is a pure submission fighter and wins most of his fights by way of sub..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Antonio-Carlos-Jr-143157 He's Brazilian and I'm sure he will be trying for the take down and sub out with Spicely for sure... There is a good chance Junior can win by decision but I'm rolling the dice with the sub myself.. After all Junior is a 2nd degree Brazilian Black Belt under Hélder "Bob Esponja" Medeiros

    There is still a very solid chance Junior wins this fight by Decision though if they both x each other out standing and or on the ground..

    I'm rolling the dice with this but very concerned Junior wins by decision.. That's why I only bet $50..... I don't think Spicely can win a decision with the judges in Brazil also.....

    $50.00 $150.00 Pending 6/3/17 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1631 Junior wins by submission +300* vs Any other result





    Antonio
    Carlos Junior
    "Cara de Sapato"
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    Spicely
    "Zebrinha"

    BRAZIL
    Country
    UNITED STATES

    8-2-0, 1NC
    Record
    10-2-0

    0%
    KO/TKO
    20%

    75%
    SUB
    50%

    25%
    DEC
    20%
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 06-03-17 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Spicely is horrible standing and decent on the ground.. Kinda mirrors his opponent Junior actually.. So it comes down to who's better on the ground or standing? Both are one trick ponies but I think Spicely gets out muscled and grounded in this fight and maybe sub'd.. I think it's a question whether or not Spicely get's sub'd out or pounded out in my mind from the bottom position?...

    Junior is a pure submission fighter and wins most of his fights by way of sub..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Antonio-Carlos-Jr-143157 He's Brazilian and I'm sure he will be trying for the take down and sub out with Spicely for sure... There is a good chance Junior can win by decision but I'm rolling the dice with the sub myself.. After all Junior is a 2nd degree Brazilian Black Belt under Hélder "Bob Esponja" Medeiros

    There is still a very solid chance Junior wins this fight by Decision though if they both x each other out standing and or on the ground..

    I'm rolling the dice with this but very concerned Junior wins by decision.. That's why I only bet $50.....

    $50.00 $150.00 Pending 6/3/17 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1631 Junior wins by submission +300* vs Any other result





    Antonio
    Carlos Junior
    "Cara de Sapato"
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    Spicely
    "Zebrinha"

    BRAZIL
    Country
    UNITED STATES

    8-2-0, 1NC
    Record
    10-2-0

    0%
    KO/TKO
    20%

    75%
    SUB
    50%

    25%
    DEC
    20%
    Junior is a way better striker imo

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    Locked Aldo up.

    GL on the card tonight fellas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Junior is a way better striker imo
    I originally just wanted to play this prop but the odds are crapola ..

    1640 Junior (scorecards = no action) -320

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I originally just wanted to play this prop but the odds are crapola ..

    1640 Junior (scorecards = no action) -320
    Not sure about that one. I think if it goes to the scorecards then it's almost surely Shoeface controlling Spicely for the fight. Spicelys path to victory is an unlikely sub against a stronger grappler.
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    Thoughts on yancy/Silva?

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