1. 12-30-16 04:13 PM #1
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    WSOF 34: Gaethje vs Firmino (December 31, 2016)




    NBC, 4 p.m. ET
    Justin Gaethje vs Luiz Firmino (for Lightweight title)
    Jon Fitch vs Jake Shields (for Welterweight tile)
    Paul Bradley vs Yushin Okami
    Marlon Moraes vs Josenaldo Silva (for Bantamweight title)

    NBCSN, 3p.m. ET
    David Branch vs Louis Taylor (for Middleweight title)
    Caio Alencar vs Jared Rosholt



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  2. 12-30-16 04:16 PM #2
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    Thanks for starting the thread Locky!
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  3. 12-31-16 12:32 AM #3
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    Oh shit didn't see this thread..

    We got WSOF tomorrow night and there are some good fights to make some money on IMO... Jake Shields, Jared Rosholt and Paul Bradley all should win.. Parlay up Gaethje and Branch too..

    WSOF 34 - Lightweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
    Sat 12/31 5001 Luiz Firmino +335 o1½ -150
    5:30PM 5002 Justin Gaethje -420 u1½ +120
    WSOF 34 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
    Sat 12/31 5101 Paul Bradley +140 o2½ -240
    5:00PM 5102 Yushin Okami -160 u2½ +180
    WSOF 34 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
    Sat 12/31 5201 Jon Fitch +130 o3½ -215
    4:30PM 5202 Jake Shields -150 u3½ +170
    WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
    Sat 12/31 5301 Josenaldo Silva +500 o1½ -205
    4:00PM 5302 Marlon Moraes -700 u1½ +165
    WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBCSN
    Sat 12/31 5401 Caio Alencar +235 o1½ -175
    3:30PM 5402 Jared Rosholt -275 u1½ +145
    WSOF 34 - Middleweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York - NBCSN
    Sat 12/31 5501 Louis Taylor +325 o1½ -210
    3:00PM 5502 David Branch -400 u1½ +168
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  4. 12-31-16 12:38 AM #4
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    I can't wait to see this Jake Shields fight! (said no one ever)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    I can't wait to see this Jake Shields fight! (said no one ever)
    I agree... He should be a better version of Fitch as they are similar fighters in a sense... If Jake is still training hard and the same fighter and doesn't gas out he should beat JF.. Fitch will try to grind on him though... Shields has better ground then Finch and is probably the better striker..
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    CroCop fighting a 360lbs Estonian right now
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    ^ just beat hi, now in the Rizin final...
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  8. 12-31-16 01:11 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    ^ just beat hi, now in the Rizin final...
    I tried betting a couple fights last night.. Came out on the losing end.. I just can't bet a venue in JAPAN with aged fighters that can juice...

    Good luck Locky hope your chasing pays off... I'm taking a pass on that...
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  9. 12-31-16 03:05 AM #9
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    Got Gaethje ITD for a decent size bet.
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  10. 12-31-16 10:23 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Got Gaethje ITD for a decent size bet.
    Solid I like it, same here..
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  11. 12-31-16 10:29 AM #11
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    Is a Rosholt/Gaethje/Branch parlay really pushing your luck, or reasonable? You've got two guys who are -400ish, and then the underwhelming but solid Rosholt to round it out in a match with closer odds... I'm thinking about it but would appreciate any input.

    What about tossing Shields into that parlay? Four favorites and you end up getting better than +200 odds...

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  12. 12-31-16 10:47 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidNuke View Post
    Is a Rosholt/Gaethje/Branch parlay really pushing your luck, or reasonable? You've got two guys who are -400ish, and then the underwhelming but solid Rosholt to round it out in a match with closer odds... I'm thinking about it but would appreciate any input.

    What about tossing Shields into that parlay? Four favorites and you end up getting better than +200 odds...

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    Not pushing your luck..

    Big favorites usually hit more often then not in these smaller venues like WSOF and BELLATOR... Odds makers nail it most of the time.. I love Gaethje and Branch and both ITD..

    Rosholt should wrestle his way to victory also but there is a chance he could gas and get dropped late, still I like Rosholts chances in this one..
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    Hmm, ok. Thanks Jibby. Sorry for all the questions.

    I feel like Rosholt's opponent is one of those dime a dozen Brazilian MMA practitioners that fights sporadically and is probably already working 40 plus hour weeks. Rosholt is simply ok, but knows how to win a fight. He's hardly in with a top 10ish guy like Roy Nelson or Struve.

    What are your thoughts on the Fitch/Shields match-up? I'm very interested in it despite a lot of people crapping on it (Blanket jokes galore)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidNuke View Post
    Hmm, ok. Thanks Jibby. Sorry for all the questions.

    I feel like Rosholt's opponent is one of those dime a dozen Brazilian MMA practitioners that fights sporadically and is probably already working 40 plus hour weeks. Rosholt is simply ok, but knows how to win a fight. He's hardly in with a top 10ish guy like Roy Nelson or Struve.

    What are your thoughts on the Fitch/Shields match-up? I'm very interested in it despite a lot of people crapping on it (Blanket jokes galore)

    Fitch is a grinder, but not as talented as Shields in any area.. Shields has the better chin also..

    If Shields has been training and is in great shape and still the same fighter I love his chances against Jon Fitch..

    If Shields is not in great shape Jon Fitch could grind and out work Shields to a decision win..

    I'm going with Shields as he looks in good shape and seems motivated in interviews like this..http://mmajunkie.com/2016/12/jake-sh...on-fitch-early
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    I just remembered, I read an article that said Fitch and Shields have grappled twice. I believe Shields won both. Mental edge maybe? Hope so, every little bit helps towards feeling confident about it.
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    Weigh ins - Cheesy scale they are using.. WSOF went cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidNuke View Post
    I just remembered, I read an article that said Fitch and Shields have grappled twice. I believe Shields won both. Mental edge maybe? Hope so, every little bit helps towards feeling confident about it.
    I know Jon Fitch looks ripped and cut at weigh ins... Shields just looks fit and skinny so that has me just a bit worried.. I'm sure Shields is good shape for this fight though, he needs this win...
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    Hmm. Shields has been actively competing in grappling tournaments since his match-up with Palhares right? Wondering if he's been in the gym, pretty long time off for a nearly 40 year old fighter. Can't imagine he isn't in good shape though, guy is gym rat isn't he?
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    I'm liking Branch over Okami.. Branch is a bit of a beast... Okami is a has been... As a dog play I think it's worth a try... Well he was a +140 when I hit it.. Today it's even odds..
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    Did you mean what's his name... Guy that knocked out Honeycutt? Paul Bradley. Over Okami that is.
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    This event starts early... Don't sleep on it.. Start time in 3 hours on NBC....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidNuke View Post
    Did you mean what's his name... Guy that knocked out Honeycutt? Paul Bradley. Over Okami that is.
    Exactly.. Okami is a shell of the fighter he use to be in the UFC IMO, Bradley has picked up some quality wins lately... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Paul-Bradley-19726

    I think he knocks out Okami in this scrap..
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    Okami does seem markedly more fragile than he used to. Wonder if the bullish Bradley can pull a Boetsch and really rough him up and hopefully take him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidNuke View Post
    Okami does seem markedly more fragile than he used to. Wonder if the bullish Bradley can pull a Boetsch and really rough him up and hopefully take him out.
    Right exactly.. Okami was a better fighter back then when the Barbarian took him out in the UFC...

    No guarantees on this but I took a shot at it to go along with the straight...

    5105 Bradley wins inside distance +300
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Solid I like it, same here..
    Dude is an absolute monster. My favorite fighter outside the big show
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Fitch is a grinder, but not as talented as Shields in any area.. Shields has the better chin also..

    If Shields has been training and is in great shape and still the same fighter I love his chances against Jon Fitch..

    If Shields is not in great shape Jon Fitch could grind and out work Shields to a decision win..

    I'm going with Shields as he looks in good shape and seems motivated in interviews like this..http://mmajunkie.com/2016/12/jake-sh...on-fitch-early
    Scrap pack all up in your ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'm liking Branch over Okami.. Branch is a bit of a beast... Okami is a has been... As a dog play I think it's worth a try... Well he was a +140 when I hit it.. Today it's even odds..
    Tailing this for small at (+110)
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    3 team parlay:

    Branch
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    Moraes
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    WSOF 34: Gaethje vs. Firmino

    Fight #1: Rosholt vs. Alencar
    Rosholt Decision (+166) .5u

    Fight #2: Branch (C) vs. Taylor
    Branch Decision (+280) .5u

    Fight #3: Bradley vs. Okami
    Bradley (+110) 1u
    Bradley ITD (+300) .25u

    Fight #4: Moraes (C) vs. Silva
    No Bet

    Fight #5: Shields vs. Fitch
    Shields (-150) 1.5u to win 1u
    Shields ITD (+324) .5u

    Fight #6: Gaethje vs. Firmino
    Gaethje ITD (-163) 4.89u to win 4u
    Gaethje Decision (+442) 1u

    Parlays:
    Moraes ITD/Gaethje+Firmino Don’t Go Distance (-102) 1.02u to win 1u
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    Ugh Branch finishes in the fifth
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    Wonderful
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    Wow, Ronda Rosholt got dropped like a bad apple.
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    Bradley/Gaethje parlay
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    This is how I'm playing the card.. Copy and paste from Bookmaker because I'm on the book placing bets now.. $150 bucks on the straights, $200 on the Parlays.. Have a benny on Branch ITD for $50 also..

    Pending bets for today...


    PARLAY (2 TEAMS)
    12/31/2016 @ 02:30 PM MU [24102] Justin Gaethje -405 (Luiz Firmino vrs Justin Gaethje)
    12/31/2016 @ 12:30 PM MU [24122] David Branch -405 (Louis Taylor vrs David Branch)
    PARLAY (2 TEAMS)
    12/31/2016 @ 01:00 PM MU [24114] Marlon Moraes -700 (Josenaldo Silva vrs Marlon Moraes)
    12/31/2016 @ 12:00 PM MU [24118] Jared Rosholt -280 (Caio Alencar vrs Jared Rosholt)

    STRAIGHT BET
    12/31/2016 @ 01:30 PM MU [24105] Paul Bradley +131 (Paul Bradley vrs Yushin Okami)

    STRAIGHT BET
    12/31/2016 @ 02:00 PM MU [24110] Jake Shields -145 (Jon Fitch vrs Jake Shields)

    STRAIGHT BET
    12/31/2016 @ 05:05 PM NBA [512] Oklahoma City Thunder -200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Dude is an absolute monster. My favorite fighter outside the big show
    Agreed.. Total UFC material... Watched all his fights and I'm waiting to see what he can do in the UFC once he gets signed.....
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