1. 01-30-10 05:37 PM #1
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    Strikeforce: Miami

    Two plays I like and one I don't but gotta post for public record's sake.

    4* Nick Diaz -235 vs. Marius Zaromskis
    3* Jay Hieron -315 vs. Joe Riggs
    2* Robbie Lawler +160 vs. Melvin Manhoef

    The fight I'm not feeling is the Lawler vs. Manhoef fight. It really reminds me of the Kampmann vs. Daley fight where if the better fighter fights smart (i.e. takes the fight to the ground) they win. Kampmann didn't and got KTFO. I have a strong feeling that the same is going to happen with "Ruthless" Robbie tonight.
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  2. 01-30-10 06:04 PM #2
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    I want to parlay diaz and heiron for a small play but my book is complete shit. Signing up on 5dimes next week, apparently, that's the book.

    Lawler fight is a stay away for me as well. But i like the value on lawler better and would lean towards him.
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  3. 01-30-10 06:09 PM #3
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    5Dimes is definitely the book. I first signed up with them just because I could parlay fights. I use them and Bodog (can parlay here as well) but 5Dimes tends to have better lines.
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  4. 01-30-10 06:18 PM #4
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    Also, i see herschel winning tonight. Hard for me to see strikeforce giving him anyone that could threaten him in his first fight. He's a name and strikeforce values names more then anything right now. Just look at what they've given to lashley, a bunch of creampuffs. Lashley is a solid wrestler, and he's gigantic and powerful. Still, they've fed him like a baby so far. I imagine they're following protocol with Herschel.
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  5. 01-30-10 07:24 PM #5
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    Loooot of parlays for me tonight
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  6. 01-30-10 07:25 PM #6
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    Anyone know what the ruling is if a fighter tests positive for drugs and get's DQ'ed? (Diaz)
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  7. 01-30-10 07:31 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collegepays View Post
    Anyone know what the ruling is if a fighter tests positive for drugs and get's DQ'ed? (Diaz)
    Diaz will only test positive for Marijuana. And i thought they had this problem before his last fight and got it straightened out.
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  8. 01-30-10 07:31 PM #8
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    I would imagine it'd be a void bet and you'd get your money back.
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  9. 01-30-10 07:33 PM #9
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    Drug test results wouldn't come out till after the fight so it won't matter if its changed to a DQ. Once the fight is graded its over in terms of gambling.
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  10. 01-30-10 07:35 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eccocide View Post
    Drug test results wouldn't come out till after the fight so it won't matter if its changed to a DQ. Once the fight is graded its over in terms of gambling.
    This is why I love gambling on boxing/MMA
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  11. 01-30-10 07:36 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eccocide View Post
    Drug test results wouldn't come out till after the fight so it won't matter if its changed to a DQ. Once the fight is graded its over in terms of gambling.
    Are you sure?
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  12. 01-30-10 07:46 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree Rollins View Post
    Are you sure?
    Positive. Happened to me before when Stun Gun lost to Pariyisan but it got overturned afterward.

    Just think about it though. If your in Vegas, they grade a guy a win and pay out to you. Then it gets overturned....they have no way to get the money back they paid to you. Thats why the initial grading of the fight is what counts for gambling. They can't go back and collect payouts or give refunds.
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  13. 01-30-10 08:05 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eccocide View Post

    Positive. Happened to me before when Stun Gun lost to Pariyisan but it got overturned afterward.

    Just think about it though. If your in Vegas, they grade a guy a win and pay out to you. Then it gets overturned....they have no way to get the money back they paid to you. Thats why the initial grading of the fight is what counts for gambling. They can't go back and collect payouts or give refunds.
    Ok, cool. That makes sense.
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  14. 01-30-10 08:14 PM #14
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    Diaz looks good
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  15. 01-30-10 08:24 PM #15
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    Is this tonight?

    A chick I just started seeing is at a UFC type fight tonight (I live in SoFla but don't follow the sport)
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  16. 01-30-10 08:26 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Is this tonight?

    A chick I just started seeing is at a UFC type fight tonight (I live in SoFla but don't follow the sport)
    She's in Miami with a bunch of horny testosterone ridden mma fans. Tell her to be careful.
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  17. 01-30-10 08:40 PM #17
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    Signed up at 5dimes this afternoon.. will report on the sign up later... the sign up bonus is a bit misleading, but other than that, a decent sign up...

    Back on topic re: the OP...

    I'm with ya on Diaz and Hieron, but gotta go the other way with Manhoef.

    GL!

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  18. 01-30-10 08:54 PM #18
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    Strikeforce is going to be the next elite XC... They got showed a little money and they are trying to be what they aren't.
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  19. 01-30-10 11:28 PM #19
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    **final results**

    Perfect night for moi. Felt like forever since I've been able to say that.

    4* Nick Diaz -235 vs. Marius Zaromskis...WIN
    3* Jay Hieron -315 vs. Joe Riggs...WIN
    2* Robbie Lawler +160 vs. Melvin Manhoef...WIN


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  20. 01-30-10 11:39 PM #20
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    Very nice! I was on Diaz, Hieron and a small Diaz/Hieron parlay, but I couldn't pull the trigger on Lawler. Great pick!
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  21. 01-31-10 12:51 AM #21
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    It's a good thing you didn't bet Lawler. He was getting crushed and landed maybe four shots total in the entire fight. I definitely got lucky with this pick. But I guess it is better to be lucky than good haha.
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  22. 01-31-10 03:05 AM #22
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    i tried to bet lawler but had an error on the sbr book... oh well
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  23. 01-31-10 08:33 AM #23
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    Nice hits. I was on Lawler as well and it appears we were on the wrong side. He was very gun shy which was suprising. Not really sure what the game plan was but his legs were absolutely destroyed by those leg kicks. I was thinking he was just being consservative in hope that Manhoef would blow his load in first round and gas completely, which may have been the case. Nonetheless, it worked out.
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  24. 01-31-10 12:26 PM #24
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    Nice work Gov.
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  25. 01-31-10 02:45 PM #25
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    This event was almost painful to watch.....
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  26. 01-31-10 04:07 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMUplayer View Post
    This event was almost painful to watch.....
    Why?

    I thought the lawler fight was great. One of the craziest KO's ever. The Diaz fight was awesome, completely action packed. Herschel walkers fight was very interesting. Even the Cyborg fight was good, it was competitive and exciting. Overall, it was better then a lot of ufc's i've seen lately.
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  27. 02-01-10 01:09 AM #27
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    It was a good show, its always good to have 4 big names fighting on the card even if the opponents arent great.

    Im glad strikeforce is putting on successful shows (seemed to be atleast) i just still think the level of compitition is way bellow ufc.

    That being said, Lashley is ready to fight a top 20 heavyweight

    Hershell looked better than kimbo

    Cyborg is a machine

    Diaz would b fun to see him fight Gsp, although Gsp will win
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  28. 02-01-10 01:20 AM #28
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    Some good fights, but a lack of talent in two fights.
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  29. 02-01-10 03:58 AM #29
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    Where does Nate Diaz fight now?
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  30. 02-01-10 05:53 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaInIsLe View Post
    Where does Nate Diaz fight now?
    Nate Diaz fights at 170 in the UFC now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree Rollins View Post
    Also, i see herschel winning tonight. Hard for me to see strikeforce giving him anyone that could threaten him in his first fight. He's a name and strikeforce values names more then anything right now. Just look at what they've given to lashley, a bunch of creampuffs. Lashley is a solid wrestler, and he's gigantic and powerful. Still, they've fed him like a baby so far. I imagine they're following protocol with Herschel.
    Who are all these creampuffs that Strikeforce spoon fed to Lashley?
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    Quote Originally Posted by butt rock hero View Post

    Who are all these creampuffs that Strikeforce spoon fed to Lashley?

    Well, they had 3 or 4 different guys who were supposed to fight him at strikeforce:miami and none was even top 100.

    Whoever has been pulling the strings for him hasn't given him anything close to a potentially competitive fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree Rollins View Post
    Well, they had 3 or 4 different guys who were supposed to fight him at strikeforce:miami and none was even top 100.

    Whoever has been pulling the strings for him hasn't given him anything close to a potentially competitive fight.
    Thats what i've been waiting to see..
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    Hershel baby
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  35. 02-02-10 11:25 AM #35
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    Why did Nick Diaz leave UFC?
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