[Hugo de Naranja]

I'll take Jibbby. I hear he's got a strong chin, Chuck is chinny, and Chuck has Asian tattoos (iirc), so fade the 'Asian'. Most of my reasons come from Jibbby though.

[JIBBBY]

I really think I can take Chuck as he's a total can.. Tito might take me down and work me.. That's my best guess.. Being honest too.. I'd try it if the pay was right.. Give me a 6 week camp to prepare.. Jibbby would be a go!!!!

I still hit hard.. Got my heavy bad hanging in the garage which I pound on a few times a week.

[Thrilla]

So this was the official Liddell vs. Ortiz thread?

Man you guys suck. You don't need a degree in webdesign to start a thread on a forum.

[Thrilla]

Chael Sonnen breaks down Chuck Liddell vs Tito Ortiz 3, promoted by Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. the business or mixed martial arts is not as easy as many think...

[JIBBBY]

So this was the official Liddell vs. Ortiz thread?

Man you guys suck. You don't need a degree in webdesign to start a thread on a forum.

Wasn't a big enough event to start a thread.. Especially now that we look back on how it went down.. .. Old farts looking for a payday is all I saw.. Was almost painful to watch..

[UncleChael]

Nick Diaz is gonna light up Gamebred at UFC 235.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Pretty excited for Matthews vs. Martin on the Aussie card this weekend. Couple of streaking Welterweights who have looked great since moving up from Lightweight.

[strictlypaypal]

Hugo whats your early lean on ortega vs holloway?

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hugo whats your early lean on ortega vs holloway?

Holloway all day.

[firekillex]

i seen bektic is out of the fight with moicano and they have a TBD beside his name for the event.. but its 2 weeks away lol wonder if thats going to be completely scratched cant see anbody stepping in 2 weeks notice against Moicano , sucks i was looking forward to that fight big time, was hoping Aldo or mendes would step in

[Hugo de Naranja]

i seen bektic is out of the fight with moicano and they have a TBD beside his name for the event.. but its 2 weeks away lol wonder if thats going to be completely scratched cant see anbody stepping in 2 weeks notice against Moicano , sucks i was looking forward to that fight big time, was hoping Aldo or mendes would step in

I think Mendes is fighting my boy Volkanovski later this year. Me and WolfTicketDealer are going to that event. Do you want to meet up?

[strictlypaypal]

How do you see the fight playing out hugo? Just trying to get other peeps perspective

[Hugo de Naranja]

How do you see the fight playing out hugo? Just trying to get other peeps perspective

Max outstriking Ortega to a wide decision or finish

[firekillex]

I think Mendes is fighting my boy Volkanovski later this year. Me and WolfTicketDealer are going to that event. Do you want to meet up?

Supposedly it was supposed to be Mendes VS Moicano at first then it was Bektic , but now hes out and he has the TBD beside his name but 2 weeks away... not sure hell be fighting on the card anymore

and ill probably only really go to Toronto cards tbh, already got my tickets

[Hugo de Naranja]

Supposedly it was supposed to be Mendes VS Moicano at first then it was Bektic , but now hes out and he has the TBD beside his name but 2 weeks away... not sure hell be fighting on the card anymore

and ill probably only really go to Toronto cards tbh, already got my tickets

Yeah that's what I'm talking about. We are going to that card.

[Sanity Check]

Max outstriking Ortega to a wide decision or finish

As someone who is from hawaii whose hometown isnt far from waianae where Max Holloway is from.

I want to say that if Max Holloway had substance abuse issues which prevented him from fighting last time around... I might pick his opponent to beat him.

Seen too many people have their lives go completely downhill after doing drugs to think Max would be any different.

[Sanity Check]

That might seem unfair of me ^ btw.

Think of it like this...

...What do Chris Leben, Melvin Guillard, Thiago Silva, Jason Mayhem Miller, Josh Samman, Conor McGregor, Ken Shamrock & many other MMA fighters have in common?

They were all talented & good fighters up until they started doing drugs. It was all downhill from there.

If Max Holloway has substance addiction issues, people shouldn't be surprised if his name ends up listed right beside those pplz imo.

[firekillex]

i highly doubt Holloway was on drugs, he seemed to have a concussion/ weight problems ... look at videos of him beside higher weight guys like DC , Holloway is HUGE for 45, shocked he can even make the weight tbh

and Hugo where you sitting around?gonna be with a bunch of buddies but can grab a beer or something

[strictlypaypal]

I know this question has been asked countless times but whats the threshold where vegas taxes you? As far as winnings go? Im going to be in vegas for 232 and wanna lay some change

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hey guys,

http://uk.ufc.com has the old website layout for those that prefer it

[WolfTicketDealer]

Hey guys,

http://uk.ufc.com has the old website layout for those that prefer it

If you're in the US/Canada you can also use the canadian site as there's no time adjustment.

http://www.ufc.ca/event/tuf-28-finale-2018#/fight

Contrary to my belief, the stats aren't juiced for hometown fighters on either site.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Darion Caldwell vs. Kyoji Horiguchi for the New Year's Eve Rizin card

[Sanity Check]

Hey guys,

http://uk.ufc.com has the old website layout for those that prefer it

Valuable resource, contains good info other sites do not.

[Sanity Check]

Hey guys,

http://uk.ufc.com has the old website layout for those that prefer it

Pro tips:

Here we see the old UFC website profile for Raoni Barcelos.



The old website says Barcelos is a wrestling champion with good grappling experience. For those who saw Raoni Barcelos last fight with Kurt Holobaugh, Barcelos showed good stand up in that fight versus Holobaugh who has good boxing.

The UFC's new website was a smooth move on their part cuz it gets rid of this data which is difficult to find elsewhere & can be useful to gamblers.

[Thrilla]

...

[Hugo de Naranja]

i highly doubt Holloway was on drugs, he seemed to have a concussion/ weight problems ... look at videos of him beside higher weight guys like DC , Holloway is HUGE for 45, shocked he can even make the weight tbh

and Hugo where you sitting around?gonna be with a bunch of buddies but can grab a beer or something

I think we're in Section 101

[Sanity Check]

i highly doubt Holloway was on drugs, he seemed to have a concussion/ weight problems ... look at videos of him beside higher weight guys like DC , Holloway is HUGE for 45, shocked he can even make the weight tbh

Forgot to respond to this.

Holloway was fighting Khabib @ 155. His issues began before his weight cut started.

Anyways I really hope I'm wrong but the things Holloway said leading up to that fight instantly reminded me of the type of things homeless druggees living in their cars say. Imagine crackheads destroying their intelligence and health sitting together doing drugs. One of them could easily say something like...

"We gonna make north america the 9th hawaiian island." (close to what Max said to promote his fight with Khabib)

Then they all nod and pat each other on the back about how "awesome" an idea that is.

[firekillex]

I think we're in Section 101

im section 111

[Hugo de Naranja]

The Ultimate Fighter 28 Finale: Usman vs. Dos Anjos Picks:
Raoni Barcelos Round 1 KO (Punches)
Tim Means Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Roosevelt Roberts Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Leah Letson Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Michel Batista Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Alex Perez Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Kevin Aguilar Round 3 TKO (Punches)
Antonina Shevchenko Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Edmen Shahbazyan Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Pedro Munhoz Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Pannie Kianzad Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Juan Espino Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Kamaru Usman Unanimous Decision (50-45, 49-46 x2)

[Hugo de Naranja]

The Ultimate Fighter 28 Finale: Usman vs. Dos Anjos

Fight Pass Prelims:

Fight #1: Barcelos vs. Gutierrez (DEBUT)
Barcelos ITD (-135) +1u

Result: Raoni Barcelos Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Fight: +1u
Card: +1u

Fight #2: Means vs. Rainey
Means KO/TKO (+275) +6.88u
Means Round 2 (+600) -.75u
Means Round 3 (+1075) -.5u
Means Submission (+1200) -.5u

Result: Tim Means Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +5.13u
Card: +6.13u

Fight #3: Roberts (DEBUT) vs. Horcher
Roberts (-156) +2.5u
Roberts+Horcher Won’t Go Distance (-130) +1u
Roberts Submission (+400) +2u

Added Hedge(s):
Horcher Decision (+630) -1u
Horcher Round 3 (+1825) -.5u

Result: Roosevelt Roberts Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Fight: +4u
Card: +10.13u

Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

Fight #4: Letson (DEBUT) vs. Stoliarenko (DEBUT)
Letson KO/TKO (+325) -.5u

Hedge:
Stoliarenko ITD (+365) -.5u

Result: Leah Letson Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -1u
Card: +9.13u

Fight #5: Batista (DEBUT) vs. Greene (DEBUT)
Batista (+148) -2u

Hedge(s):
Green Round 1 (+175) +0.88u
Green Submission (+630) +1.57u

Result: Maurice Green Round 1 Submission (Triangle Choke)
Fight: +0.45u
Card: +9.58u

Fight #6: Perez vs. Benavidez
Perez (-128) -2.56u

Hedge:
Benavidez Submission (+930) -.5u

Result: Joseph Benavidez Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Fight: -3.06u
Card: +6.52u

Fight #7: Aguilar (DEBUT) vs. Glenn
Aguilar (+100) +4.9u
Aguilar KO/TKO (+690) -.5u

Result: Kevin Aguilar Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Fight: +4.4u
Card: +10.92u

Main Card:

Fight #8: A. Shevchenko (DEBUT) vs. Kim
A. Shevchenko -3.5 (+170) +1.7u
A. Shevchenko ITD (+437) -1u

Result: Antonina Shevchenko Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Fight: +0.7u
Card: +11.62u

Fight #9: Shahbazyan (DEBUT) vs. Stewart
Shahbazyan+Stewart Under 1.5 (-125) -1.88u
Shahbazyan KO/TKO (+175) -1.5u

Result: Edmen Shahbazyan Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -3.38u
Card: +8.24u

Fight #10: Munhoz vs. Caraway
Munhoz -3.5 (-115) +1.5u
Munhoz ITD (+240) +1.2u
Munhoz Submission (+325) -2u

Hedge:
Caraway Decision (+315) -.75u

Result: Pedro Munhoz Round 1 TKO (Body Kick and Punches)
Fight: -0.05u
Card: +8.19u

Fight #11: Kianzad (DEBUT) vs. Chiasson (DEBUT)
No Bet

Result: Macy Chiasson Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)

Fight #12: Espino (DEBUT) vs. Frazier (DEBUT)
Espino (-130) +1.5u
Espino+Frazier Won’t Start Round 2 (+120) +1.2u
Espino Round 1 (+250) +1.25u

Result: Juan Espino Round 1 Submission (Straight Armbar)
Fight: +3.95u
Card: +12.14u

Fight #13: Usman vs. Dos Anjos
Usman -5.5 (+140) +4.9u
Usman Unanimous Decision (+145) +2.9u

Hedge:
Dos Anjos Scorecards = No Action (+145) +0u

Added:
Usman KO/TKO (+495) -.75u

Result: Kamaru Usman Unanimous Decision (50-43, 49-45, 48-47)
Fight: +7.05u
Card: +19.19u

Straight Parlays:
Shevchenko/Usman (-120) +2u
Means/Shevchenko (-108) +2.5u
Barcelos/Roberts (+105) +1.05u
Means/Roberts (+106) +1.06u
Perez/Usman (+120) -1u
Means/Munhoz/Usman (+155) +1.55u
Barcelos/Means/Roberts/Letson/A. Shevchenko/Shahbazyan/Munhoz/Espino/Usman (+2333) +11.66u

Prop Parlays:
Barcelos -3.5/Means -3.5/Roberts Decision (+548) -.25u

Added:
Munhoz -3.5/Kianzad/Espino (+561) -.5u
Letson+Stoliarenko WGD/Batista/Perez (+579) -.5u
Aguilar/Shevchenko -3.5/Shahbazyan (+780) +3.9u

Results: See Above
Fights: +21.47u
Card: +40.66u

Live Betting:
Dos Anjos (+1500) after R4 -.75u

Results: See Above
Fights: -0.75u
Card: +39.91u

Full Card Props:
Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+515) -.5u
Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+1475) -.25u

FOTN: None
POTN: Usman, Espino, Benavidez, Roberts
Fastest Submission: Greene R1 (2:18)
Fastest KO: Means R1 (1:18)
Decisions: 5
Results: See Above
Fights: -0.75u
Final Card Total = +39.16u

Multi-Event Parlays:
Usman+Dos Anjos GD/Kara-France (+108) 2u
Usman/Yusuff ITD (+111) 1u
Usman/Crute (+112) 1u
Barcelos+Gutierrez WGD/Yusuff+Mokhtarian WGD (+113) 1u

Results: See Above
Fights: +0u, 5u on MEPs Carry Over to UFC Fight Night 142
Multi-Event Parlays = +0u, 5u on MEPs Carry Over to UFC Fight Night 142

[Hugo de Naranja]

This TUF 28 Finale card was my Best Card Ever! Won on Barcelos ITD, Means KO/TKO, Roberts ML + WGD + Submission, Green R1 + Submission Hedges, Aguilar ML, Shevchenko -3.5, Espino ML + WSR2 + R1, Usman -5.5 + UD, Huge on Straight Parlays including .5u hits at (+780) and (+2333), and Multi-Event Parlay setups.

Usman is for real! Also nice to see some good performances from prospects that I like in Barcelos, Roberts, Aguilar and Shevchenko. We'll see if I can stay hot for the last few cards this year.

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC Fight Night 142: Dos Santos vs. Tuivasa Picks:
Damir Ismagulov Round 3 TKO (Punches)
Christos Giagos Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Kai Kara-France Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Keita Nakamura Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Ben Nguyen Round 1 KO (Punches)
Aleksei Kunchenko Round 3 TKO (Punches)
Jim Crute Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Sodiq Yusuff Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Jake Matthews Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
Justin Willis Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Tyson Pedro Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Junior Dos Santos Unanimous Decision (50-45 x3)

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC Fight Night 142: Dos Santos vs. Tuivasa

Fight Pass Prelims:

Fight #1: Ismagulov (DEBUT) vs. Gorgees (DEBUT)
Ismagulov ITD (-112) -1.12u
Ismagulov Round 3 (+775) -.5u

Result: Damir Ismagulov Unanimous Decision (30-26 x2, 30-25)
Fight: -1.62u
Card: -1.62u

Fight #2: Giagos vs. Hirota
No Bet

Result: Christos Giagos Unanimous Decision (30-28, 29-27, 29-28)

Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

Fight #3: Kara-France (DEBUT) vs. Garcia
Kara-France+Garcia Under 2.5 (-125) -1.25u

Hedge:
Garcia ITD (+644) -.5u

Result: Kai Kara-France Unanimous Decision (30-26, 30-25 x2)
Fight: -1.75u
Card: -3.37u

Fight #4: Nakamura vs. Touahri
Nakamura ITD (+305) -1u

Result: Keita Nakamura Split Decision (30-27, 29-28, 28-29)
Fight: -1u
Card: -4.37u

Fight #5: Nguyen vs. Reis
Nguyen Scorecards = No Action (-101) +0u
Nguyen+Reis Under 2.5 (+160) -1u
Nguyen ITD (+325) -1u

Hedge(s):
Reis Decision (+335) +3.35u
Reis KO/TKO (+2715) -.25u

Result: Wilson Reis Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Fight: +1.1u
Card: -3.27u

Fight #6: Kunchenko vs. Okami
Kunchenko Round 3 (+1025) -.5u

Result: Aleksei Kunchenko Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-26 x2)
Fight: -.5u
Card: -3.77u

Main Card:

Fight #7: Crute (DEBUT) vs. Craig
Crute Round 1 (+190) -1u

Hedge:
Craig ITD (+365) -.5u

Result: Jim Crute Round 3 Submission (Kimura)
Fight: -1.5u
Card: -5.27u

Fight #8: Yusuff (DEBUT) vs. Mokhtarian (DEBUT)
Yusuff+Mokhtarian Under 1.5 (-125) +1.5u

Hedge:
Mokhtarian Submission (+1030) -.5u

Result: Sodiq Yusuff Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +1u
Card: -4.27u

Fight #9: Matthews vs. Martin
Matthews (-115) -2.3u
Matthews -3.5 (+170) -1u
Matthews Decision (+250) -.75u

Result: Tony Martin Round 3 Technical Submission (Anaconda Choke)
Fight: -4.05u
Card: -8.32u

Fight #10: Willis vs. Hunt
Willis (+105) +5.38u
Willis Decision (+285) +2.14u

Hedge:
Hunt Round 1 (+300) -1.5u

Result: Justin Willis Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
Fight: +6.02u
Card: -2.3u

Fight #11: Pedro vs. Rua
Pedro+Rua Under 1.5 (-135) -1.35u
Pedro Submission (+450) -1u

Hedge(s):
Rua (+367) +5.5u
Rua Round 3 (+2300) +5.75u

Result: Shogun Rua Round 3 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +8.9u
Card: +6.6u

Fight #12: Dos Santos vs. Tuivasa
Dos Santos (-143) +4u
Dos Santos Decision (+370) -1u
Dos Santos+Tuivasa Draw (+8500) -.1u

Hedge:
Tuivasa Round 1 (+442) -1.5u

Result: Junior Dos Santos Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +1.4u
Card: +8u

Straight Parlays:
Kunchenko/Crute (+105) +1.58u
Yusuff/Matthews (+105) -1u
Nakamura/Crute -3.5 (+140) +1.4u

Results: See Above
Fight: +1.98u
Card: +9.98u

Prop Parlays:
Yusuff+Mokhtarian WGD/Willis+Hunt WGD (+109) -1u
Crute+Craig WGD/Willis+Hunt WGD (+113) -1u
Crute+Craig WGD/Dos Santos (+125) +1.25u
Crute -3.5/Matthews/Pedro+Rua Under 1.5 (+352) -1u
Willis/Pedro+Rua Under 1.5/Dos Santos (+397) -.5u
Ismagulov ITD/Giagos Decision/Kara-France ITD (+426) -.75u
Nakamura/Nguyen+Reis Under 2.5/Kunchenko Decision (+944) -.5u
Matthews Submission/Tuivasa Round 1 (+2513) -.25u

Added:
Ismagulov -3.5/Pedro+Rua Under 1.5 (+114) -1u
Crute+Craig GD/Yusuff+Mokhtarian GD/Matthews+Martin GD/Pedro+Rua GD/Wills+Hunt GD/Dos Santos+Tuivasa GD (+57840) -.25u

Results: See Above
Fight: -5u
Card: +4.98u

Live Betting:
Kara-France+Garcia Goes Distance (-120) +1u after R1
Willis+Hunt Goes Distance (-115) +1u after R1
Hunt (+100) -1u after R2
Martin (+185) +1.85u after R1
Dos Santos (+220) +2.2u after R1

Results: See Above
Fights: +5.05u
Card: +10.03u

Full Card Props:
Over 5.5 Fights Go Distance (+105) +1.31u
Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+285) +1.42u
Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+760) -.25u
Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+2500) -.25u

FOTN: Kara-France+Garcia
POTN: Rua, Yusuff
Fastest Submission: Martin R3 (1:19)
Fastest KO: Yusuff R1 (2:14)
Decisions: 7
Results: See Above
Fights: +2.23u
Final Card Total = +12.26u

Multi-Event Parlays:
Usman+Dos Anjos GD/Kara-France (+108) +2.16u
Usman/Yusuff ITD (+111) +1.11u
Usman/Crute (+112) +1.12u
Barcelos+Gutierrez WGD/Yusuff+Mokhtarian WGD (+113) +1.13u
Dos Santos/Jones (+123) 1u

Results: See Above
Fight: +5.52u, 1u Carries Over to UFC 232
Multi-Event Parlays = +5.52u, 1u Carries Over to UFC 232

[Hugo de Naranja]

Very solid results on this Australia card after digging myself into a hole early. Won on Reis Decision Hedge, Yusuff+Mokhtarian Under 1.5, Willis ML + Decision, Shogun ML + Round 3 Hedges, Dos Santos ML, Straight Parlays, Live Betting, Full Card Props, and Multi-Event Parlays.

Between the two cards this weekend, I profited 56.94u.

Impressed by Kai Kara-France and Sodiq Yusuff and intrigued to see where they go from here.

[firekillex]

do you think Usman can beat Woodley??
my early thoughts are Woodley would KO/TKO him