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    Bestfightodds has nate diaz vs tyron woodly odds under ufc 219. Im pissed because does that mean the fights on or not?the holly holm vs cyborg wasnt listed there until it was confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Bestfightodds has nate diaz vs tyron woodly odds under ufc 219. Im pissed because does that mean the fights on or not?the holly holm vs cyborg wasnt listed there until it was confirmed.
    Since only Bovada has it right now I would say not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Since only Bovada has it right now I would say not yet.
    Cyborg better not be main event. I hate women main events!!!!!!

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    Yeah that would be disappointing for what is supposed to be a big card.
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    Anybody feel like holm has a legit shot to beat cyborg? I thought the odds would be cyborg -170 or something. Cyborg has been winning but takes more and more time to put lower level opponents away as each match goes by. I dont see her ko’ing holm and if holm turns it on late i think shes a very live dog here.

    Excited for ortega/swanson such a good fight. Woodley Diaz makes no sense but im down lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by strictlypaypal View Post
    Anybody feel like holm has a legit shot to beat cyborg? I thought the odds would be cyborg -170 or something. Cyborg has been winning but takes more and more time to put lower level opponents away as each match goes by. I dont see her ko’ing holm and if holm turns it on late i think shes a very live dog here.

    Excited for ortega/swanson such a good fight. Woodley Diaz makes no sense but im down lol
    I honestly don't think Holm has much of a shot at all here. She can't get TDs and Cyborg is a much more powerful striker who rarely tires.

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    if the fight was strictly standing up id give holm a shot because she strives against aggressive strikers
    but cyborg will most likely to get her down and holm doesnt have the best ground game... i like cyborg possibly by sub here

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    if the fight was strictly standing up id give holm a shot because she strives against aggressive strikers
    but cyborg will most likely to get her down and holm doesnt have the best ground game... i like cyborg possibly by sub here
    I think that would be Cyborg's first career sub but I could see it happening.

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    Cyborg by u. dec. IMO. Holly will sloppily stick and move like she always does and Cyborg will have the better moments and stay out of trouble.

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    I see a second round tko by cyborg. Shes a freak of nature

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    will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
    people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
    if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
    people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
    if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win
    That's very possible. Holloway is one of my absolute favorite fighters but I think the value is on Aldo (perhaps by Decision) at this price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    That's very possible. Holloway is one of my absolute favorite fighters but I think the value is on Aldo (perhaps by Decision) at this price.
    i like holloway , one of the best ufc winning streaks in history , but i thought Aldo looked way faster and better in the exchanges until round 3 when he got clipped.... if he threw any leg kicks i think he could win especially at +200 or more i like the value , then possibly hedge with holloway rd 3-5 finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    i like holloway , one of the best ufc winning streaks in history , but i thought Aldo looked way faster and better in the exchanges until round 3 when he got clipped.... if he threw any leg kicks i think he could win especially at +200 or more i like the value , then possibly hedge with holloway rd 3-5 finish
    Seems like a logical way to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
    people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
    if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win
    Im on aldo. I feel he is smart enough to learn from his mistakes from the first fight. He was winning that fight. Yeah it pissed me off when he wasnt throwing leg kicks. Like when he faught frankie edgar threw like no keg kicks the whole fight. Was so mad i kept yelling at the tv and the waitress why he wasnt throwing leg kicks i was so drunk lol.

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    you guys are burning your money fading Holloway

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    Is the TUF Finale card the day before UFC 218 even taking place? Like none of those fights have been announced. I'm aware that some will be fighters from the TUF show but even then it would be like an eight fight card if they don't add anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    you guys are burning your money fading Holloway
    Why is that? I favor Holloway to win but I think Aldo's chances are being underrated at the current ML price.

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    I dont think you will ever get Aldo at +265 ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sato View Post
    I dont think you will ever get Aldo at +265 ever again.
    people forget he beat frankie after the mcgregor ko and was winning 2 rounds to 0 against holloway before getting stopped
    aldo is ALOT better then people are giving him credit for imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    people forget he beat frankie after the mcgregor ko and was winning 2 rounds to 0 against holloway before getting stopped
    aldo is ALOT better then people are giving him credit for imo
    I agree. I think Holloway should be like (-180) in this spot and I bet him huge in their first fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I agree. I think Holloway should be like (-180) in this spot and I bet him huge in their first fight.
    id lean 60/40 holloway just because all his momentum, age and gas tank
    but i think aldo is a better/ fast / powerful striker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Why is that? I favor Holloway to win but I think Aldo's chances are being underrated at the current ML price.
    Aldo is not the same guy that did not lose for 10 years...he still has not recovered mentally from that 12 second KO from McGregor...

    Conversely, Holloway's confidence is through the roof and he's flying high..

    2 guys whose careers are going in different directions and Max will finish Aldo inside the distance once again..

    It's the Blessed Era, you better recognize
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    Does anyone have early thoughts about Nurmy vs. Barboza?

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    Ran into Jeremy Kimball at the MGM Top Golf. Nice dude.

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    still think Holloway wins but starting to see it your way, price too steep

    Aldo really needs to come out guns blazing and try and swarm Max before he gets in a groove to have a shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sato View Post
    Cyborg by u. dec. IMO. Holly will sloppily stick and move like she always does and Cyborg will have the better moments and stay out of trouble.
    I actually thought about this and I have to change my stance on this. Smith, Lansberg and Evinger werent real tests for Cyborg and she didnt have to dig deep for the win.

    Holly is probably the toughest opponent she will have faced, maybe ever in MMA. Broad shoulders, actual strength and a solid stick and move style. Interesting to see what happens in the championship rounds. I love the Holly ML line and dec. prop (+170) tbh. Cyborgs odds are unplayable for me.

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    Cyborg KO/TKO (-110) 5.5u to win 5u

    I'm planning to be huge on Cyborg in this spot. I think Holm's only path to victory is landing a flush Head Kick in a fight that she is losing so I'm hedging with Holm KO/TKO at (+1300). I think Cyborg has better volume, power, cardio, footwork, pace, technique, and depth of skill than Holm. This fight is a total mismatch in my eyes and I think Cyborg ML is very parlayable at (-330) if you're not a fan of props.

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    Miocic (+130) 5u

    Versus Ngannou in 2018 Title Fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Miocic (+130) 5u

    Versus Ngannou in 2018 Title Fight
    +130 is crazy value on Stipe. Ngannou hype train is out of control, Stipe's so much more skilled and has a very good chin. Won't max bet because it's heavyweights and anything can happen, but definitely will throw a couple units on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfTicketDealer View Post
    +130 is crazy value on Stipe. Ngannou hype train is out of control, Stipe's so much more skilled and has a very good chin. Won't max bet because it's heavyweights and anything can happen, but definitely will throw a couple units on it.
    I like Ngannou a lot but I think this line is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Slightly favor RDA. Will play Lawler KO/TKO as a bet or hedge.
    LETS GOOO RDA!! I wish it was today!!

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    ngannou vs stipe is the most coin toss fight ive ever seen tbh
    wouldnt touch that fight with a 10 foot pole loll.. just going to enjoy that as a fan

    Ngannou touches you its night night, not sure Stipe can get him down but his movement and speed can be a problem
    very very tough fight to break down because weve seen so little of Ngannou

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    Stipe needs to take this fight into the championship rounds. He cant exchange with a fresh Ngannou. Dumbest idea ever. I believe Stipe is the better overall fighter from what we have seen. They need to find a way to tire this guy out whether with body shots or heavy leg kicks. When he tastes Ngannous power and survives that shot he will be afraid to do anything after that. That fight is such a mess.

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    GSP vacates MW title. So much for the "Im contractually obligated to defend" talk. Whittaker crowned undisputed champion.

    UFC 221 Whittaker Vs. Rockhold for the title in Australia.
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