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    UFC FN40 & Stoppages: Too fast, Too slow...and just right

    stoppages are generally way to quick or way too slow, and occasionally just right...tonight we had some of each

    a stoppage that was way too slow: Shank over Koch...dozens of additional undefended shots continued for maybe 30 seconds longer than necessary to see that Koch was absolutely without defense...that fat-assed referee kept circling and looking and circling and looking...when a defenseless fighter needs protecting is when the referee decides to show the world how "observant" and "deliberative" they can be...

    a stoppage that was way too quick: Philippou over Larkin (if you don't think so, watch the replays of Koch...and then Larkin, one after the other and compare them in any way that makes sense to you...)…Shank was way too slow, reminiscent of Weidman almost killing Munoz…but Larkin was too quick...not given any time to weather the storm...knocked down, then instantly "protected" from any follow-up


    a NON-stoppage that was just right: NOT calling out Brown early in the first round--which VERY easily could have happened (especially in Brazil, as Kermit pointed out in the event thread)--rest of the fight showed it was the right call...pisses me off when, early in the fight, the ref is WAY to quick to "defend the fighter" and doesn't even give them a chance to weather the storm (both McMann vs. Rousey and Faber in his last fight were counted out WAY to fukkin' early)

    a stoppage that was just right: the KO of Potts (too "soon" or "late" are not evaluated objectively with time on the clock...Potts was very fast on the clock, but the ref did exactly the right thing in noticing that "no one was home")

    a dangerous NON-stoppage watch the last minute of R2 with Brown flailing away with HARD punches/elbows on Silva's head from the mount with Silva doing nothing consequential to defend himself …Dean (one of the VERY best in this aspect of the job)…should have called off the carnage at some point here…would have been better for everyone (especially Silva) if R3 never started

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    nice breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    would have been better for everyone (especially Silva) if R3 never started
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    Cariasso/Smolka goes dec -185 + Silva/Brown doesn't start R3 -170 parlay 3u (to win 4.34u).
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    i followed you on that play, MD...but, very honestly, even if i had "Starts R3" instead...i'd still think the same way (meaning i'd feel just that wee bit guilty for the $ I gained because of the additional baseball-bat swings to the cabeza the kid had to endure until the assault was FINALLY called off)

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    cruikshank vs koch stoppage was fine in fact it was a perfect stoppage koch was not unconscious he was actively trying to recover but he couldn't recover effectively

    phillipou vs larkin was perfectly fine stoppage that right hand that phillipou threw put larkin's lights out completely he fell limp and was in no position to fight back

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    Koch stoppage was a bit late imo. Head was bouncing around like a ping ping.

    Lorenz was good though. He was done.

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    Yee think he broke the record for most elbows eaten in space of 30 seconds

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    philippou/larkin stoppage was NOT way too quick...larkin was out...

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    tbh, when i wrote it up, the larkin stoppage was the only one i thought i may have been stretching, just to have an example of each...the best recent example of a ridiculously-fast stoppage that robbed everybody of a fight (and the stopped fighter of a legitimate chance to win)...was mcmann being called out early in the first round against rousey...

    i still wonder how a mcmann/rousey fight would go...we never got to see one

    at the other extreme we have Munoz almost getting killed by weidman while the referee watched (Koch last night was reminiscent of that...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Yee think he broke the record for most elbows eaten in space of 30 seconds
    that's the second time in just his last few fights that Koch has damn near got killed...Lamas turned his face into bloody pulp with elbows not long ago (way worse damage than last night...but that wasn't ref's fault then because lamas just unloaded the nastiest ton of elbows imaginable in just a few seconds before the fight was called...) when i hear the expression "bloody elbow"...i think of that fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    Koch stoppage was a bit late imo. Head was bouncing around like a ping ping.

    Lorenz was good though. He was done.
    C'maaaaaaaaahn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    C'maaaaaaaaahn.
    hehehe, sometimes you get an autocomplete that you just have to leave as-is.

    the other day i was sending a message to nunya. it was supposed to read "first to perish". instead it autocompleted to "first to perosh". i noticed the mistake, but i had to leave it bc it made me giggle.

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    God I wish Larkin would have had more time...lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    hehehe, sometimes you get an autocomplete that you just have to leave as-is.

    the other day i was sending a message to nunya. it was supposed to read "first to perish". instead it autocompleted to "first to perosh". i noticed the mistake, but i had to leave it bc it made me giggle.
    Heh, I liked Rossborough correcting to Ross Perot.

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    I think alot of fights are stopped prematurely. It pisses me off!!!!

    Flip side - It protects the fighters as we haven't had any deaths in the cage on the main stream venues yet.. BIG FOR MMA AND THE UFC...

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    Yeah I think the UFC does a decent job of not setting up HUGE mismatches like other organizations...that's how someone is going to get really ****** up...
    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I think alot of fights are stopped prematurely. It pisses me off!!!!

    Flip side - It protects the fighters as we haven't had any deaths in the cage on the main stream venues yet.. BIG FOR MMA AND THE UFC...

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