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    Bellator 109: Shlemenko Vs Marshall (November 22, 2013)



    Main Card (Spike TV 9 p.m. ET)
    Alexander Shlemenko vs. Doug Marshall
    Will Brooks vs. Alexander Sarnavskiy
    Rick Hawn vs. Ron Keslar
    Nathan Coy vs. Matthew Riddle
    Patrick Cenoble vs. Terry Etim

    Preliminary Card (Spike.com, 7 p.m. ET)
    Lester Caslow vs. Jay Haas
    Brett Glass vs. Brent Primus
    Terrell Hobbs vs. Bubba Jenkins
    Saul Almeida vs. Goiti Yamauchi
    Keith Bell vs. Blagoi Ivanov
    Andrew Osborne vs. Michael Page
    Ahsan Abdulla vs. Mike Bannon


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    Bellator today announced the release of Matt Riddle from the promotion following his withdrawal from the organization’s next event.

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    Sad, was looking forward to that line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Sad, was looking forward to that line.
    Riddle is a f*ck up! Was looking forward to betting the Over!

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    Tough card to bet. Leaning Tiger over Brooks. Obviously the whole fight hinges on Sarny's TD defense. Even after tape study it is still a tough call to make.

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    Only fight at the moment I'm confident to call is Hawn over Kesslar.

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    I'm all over Brooks here. Easy call for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Tough card to bet. Leaning Tiger over Brooks. Obviously the whole fight hinges on Sarny's TD defense. Even after tape study it is still a tough call to make.
    I don't think that's where the fight hinges at all. Brooks will have no problem getting him down, its whether or not he gets caught. Tiger is dangerous everwhere. Brooks has to survive 3 rounds to win, IMO.

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    I know there are members here from England. Any news on Terry Etim? He hasn't looked good in a while. However, Cenoble is NO world beater. -400 is a bit expensive though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    I don't think that's where the fight hinges at all. Brooks will have no problem getting him down, its whether or not he gets caught. Tiger is dangerous everwhere. Brooks has to survive 3 rounds to win, IMO.
    Brooks showed good sub defense vs Kitaoka. If Kitaoka could not sub Brooks then I doubt Sarny can. If you feel that confident in Brooks' ability to TD Sarny then I guess the play is Brooks via Dec & the over. I have little reason to doubt you. Good call Nunya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Brooks showed good sub defense vs Kitaoka. If Kitaoka could not sub Brooks then I doubt Sarny can. If you feel that confident in Brooks' ability to TD Sarny then I guess the play is Brooks via Dec & the over. I have little reason to doubt you. Good call Nunya.
    Did you watch any tape on this fight? Sarnavskiy is the biggest submission threat Brooks has ever fought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    If you feel that confident in Brooks' ability to TD Sarny then I guess the play is Brooks via Dec & the over. I have little reason to doubt you. Good call Nunya.
    lolwut

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Did you watch any tape on this fight? Sarnavskiy is the biggest submission threat Brooks has ever fought.



    lolwut
    I'm not sure about that one MD. Sarnavskiy could not Sub Tony Hervey. Hervey's next fight was a loss via Sub vs a club fighter from the Mid West (Frank Caraballo). Are you still on Brooks or not? If he wins it is most likely via Dec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    I'm not sure about that one MD. Sarnavskiy could not Sub Tony Hervey. Hervey's next fight was a loss via Sub vs a club fighter from the Mid West (Frank Caraballo). Are you still on Brooks or not? If he wins it is most likely via Dec.
    I said pretty clearly that I was on Brooks.
    Yes, but Sarnavskiy just choked out Tirloni. The did sub/didn't sub game isn't a good gauge of effectiveness for this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I said pretty clearly that I was on Brooks.
    Yes, but Sarnavskiy just choked out Tirloni. The did sub/didn't sub game isn't a good gauge of effectiveness for this fight.
    Perhaps. I'm on Brooks as well. Only because I believe the fight is a coin flip. So in this type of situation I go with the + $. You seemed to be skeptical of the Brooks via Dec. & the Over. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    You seemed to be skeptical of the Brooks via Dec. & the Over. Why?
    Because there is no Brooks via decision line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    I know there are members here from England. Any news on Terry Etim? He hasn't looked good in a while. However, Cenoble is NO world beater. -400 is a bit expensive though.
    -400 is meat and gravy for you. just lock it up cuz

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    Waitin on etim to hit -500 before I play it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    -400 is meat and gravy for you. just lock it up cuz
    Was thinking more along the lines of -300. However, Cenobole is +280. Get it while you can. Just close your eyes & swing for the fences on the dog bruhv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    Waitin on etim to hit -500 before I play it
    I know you Brits are confused with American lines. But I know what you mean. I am waiting for -300 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Was thinking more along the lines of -300. However, Cenobole is +280. Get it while you can. Just close your eyes & swing for the fences on the dog bruhv.
    V doesnt like dogs bro...hes more like a cat person. Plus he has no ballz

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    Gabe is on Brooks & the over 2.5. So am I. I feel very nervous now. And a little sad. I'm thinking of arbing out now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Gabe is on Brooks & the over 2.5. So am I. I feel very nervous now. And a little sad. I'm thinking of arbing out now.
    Stick with Brooks. Alot of value getting him as a dog. Does suck that gabe's on it as well tho.

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    Looks like Jenkins won. I just tuned in. Did not see it. Did he look good. Or is he the same old over rated Bubba?

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    Got $ on Etim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Got $ on Etim.

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    anyone so kind to share a link?

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    10-9 Brooks. Gone pretty much as I thought it would so far, but I wasn't expecting Brooks to be so aggressive on the feet. Good to see him gain some confidence in his hands, he has a history of only committing to his kicks on the feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I'm all over Brooks here. Easy call for me.
    Ill Will, mah boi. Easily should have been the favourite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Ill Will, mah boi. Easily should have been the favourite.
    I was on Brooks as well. To be honest I did not think it would be that easy though. I don't think he is ready for either Chandler or Alvarez but it will be fun to watch how things play out. Who do you have in the Chandler rematch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    I was on Brooks as well. To be honest I did not think it would be that easy though. I don't think he is ready for either Chandler or Alvarez but it will be fun to watch how things play out. Who do you have in the Chandler rematch?
    With how fast he's improving? Who knows. I'll certainly bet him against either of them, as I expect him to be undervalued (as he tends to be). I do think that he's one of the best prospects in MMA, though. If you put him in against Pettis right now, I would consider it a very close fight. In a few years? Exciting to find out.

    As for the rematch, I haven't 'capped it yet.

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    Keslar what a bum.

    knew that shit was coming after he spent the entire 2nd round eating jabs with literally NO head movement at all.

    maybe if is corner man SCREAMED, "move your head" "stop being a human punching bag" jeez that guy was annoying as all hell.

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    Miz -150 go go g

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    Hawn for the KO!!!!!!!! Perfect night so far. Shlemy is going night night! I'm on Marshall can't wait!

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    I have o1.5 here at +145. Should be closer to -125ish I think.

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    this is MERICA!!!!!!

    tatted!!!

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