[MD]

Hey guys, this will be a thread devoted to absolutely terrible media scoring as I see it, and I will keep you all up to date with awful scorecards, from the borderline indefensible to the absolutely retarded.

Today's offenders: Bloody Elbow, who found a perfectly defensible 48-47 score for Chandler like so:

R1: Chandler slices in a jab. Chandler's left hook whiffs. Quick right hand lands for Alvarez. Left body kick from Chandler; Alvarez lands a jab and changes levels for a single leg but Chandler slips free. Another jab from Alvarez, who then smiles and waves Chandler in.
Chandler now lunging in with punches like in their first match. Aggressive body kick from Chandler. Alvarez using good lateral motion and angles. Alvarez snaps Chandler's head back with a jab. Chandler answers then throws a wild left hook. Chandler locks horns, slips to Alvarez's back and locks in a choke that looks tight. Eddie twists his head to breathe and eventually slips his head free. I had Alvarez by a close margin on the feet until that sub attempt. 10-9 Chandler.

R2: Stiff jab from Chandler. Two big right hands from Chandler as Alvarez answers with one of his own. Chandler walking Alvarez down and cutting off the cage, forcing him to stay busy with movement. Clean jab by Alvarez. Alvarez doubles up on his jab and then stuffs a takedown attempt. More jabs from Alvarez. Chandler throws a body kick and transitions to a body lock takedown, then hits another with the waist lock.
Chandler stays connected while Alvarez fires short elbows to the head on one knee. Alvarez stands up and circles out, then pings a nice one-two that lands with dual thuds. Chandler's eye is looking swollen and bloody, but he manages a late takedown. 10-9 Alvarez.

R3: Alvarez counters Chandler's kick with a blistering flurry. Alvarez stuffs a takedown and snaps a clean jab. Chandler is looking rough with swelling and damage to both eyes. Chandler shoots again but can't get it. Chandler lazily pursues a single leg that's easily defended -- the champ might be losing some steam here. Another sloppy shot from Chandler.
Alvarez lands a double jab and then slips to the rear waist lock. Chandler is definitely gassing and now has a bloody nose to match both eyes. He digs deep and half-secures a takedown but ends up holding Alvarez on the fence and willing his way into a takedown with 20-seconds left. 10-9 Alvarez.

R4: The cage-side doc gives a quick look at Chandler's left eye, which is nearly swollen shut. The round begins with a role reversal, as Alvarez is walking Chandler into a corner. Chandler explodes into a leaping knee that clips Alvarez on the chin and dazes him. Eddie staggers backwards and Chandler pounces with a double leg, putting Alvarez flat on his back for the first time.
Alvarez is soaked with blood from Chandler. Chandler postures up and rains down some serious punches and elbows. Chandler just pounding away with right hands. Alvarez stays flat on his back and tries to return fire from there, but Chandler is relentless with control and legit ground-and-pound. 10-8 Chandler for dazing Alvarez and then dominating him for the rest of the round.

R5: Chandler tries a duck-under double leg. Both men are moving slower in the final round. Chandler gets inside on a takedown and again takes the back of Alvarez and works a neck crank. Eddie spins out and stands back up, sneaking around to the rear waist lock. Chandler rolls out but Alvarez stays on him. Chandler escapes. Both men are exhausted and fighting on heart alone, but still getting after it.
Alvarez Eddie takes Chandler's back on a scramble and locks up a rear-naked choke. Chandler hand-fights it off and Alvarez resets and cinches on another that's tighter. Chandler slips out again, then spins quickly into Alvarez's guard. Alvarez fights back to his feet but Chandler powers him back down. Wow. Another amazing fight and display of heart by both competitors. 10-10. I have it 48-47 for Chandler.

Round four, that round where Chandler lay on top of Alvarez doing nothing, was a 10-8 round, while round five, where Alvarez almost finished Chandler multiple times, was a 10-10. I feel confident in speaking for everyone else in saying that no one on this forum worth listening to thinks that this scoring is not terrible.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/11/2...ive-discussion

This may actually be the worst media scoring I've ever seen.

[v1y]

I don't think seeing round 4 as a 10-8 chandler is that bad. the gnp was violent.

there is no possible way round 5 went any other way than for eddie. hell, with the near sub, it was closer to 10-8 than 10-10.

[jizay]

Hey guys, this will be a thread devoted to absolutely terrible media scoring as I see it, and I will keep you all up to date with awful scorecards, from the borderline indefensible to the absolutely retarded.

Today's offenders: Bloody Elbow, who found a perfectly defensible 48-47 score for Chandler like so:



Round four, that round where Chandler lay on top of Alvarez doing nothing, was a 10-8 round, while round five, where Alvarez almost finished Chandler multiple times, was a 10-10. I feel confident in speaking for everyone else in saying that no one on this forum worth listening to thinks that this scoring is not terrible.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/11/2...ive-discussion

This may actually be the worst media scoring I've ever seen.

That's pretty bad. Rd 5 was much closer to a 10-8 for Alvarez than rd 4 being 10-8 for Chandler. I kinda think he would've gotten that 10-8 if Chandler didn't pull off a sweep late in the round. Seeing round 5 as a tie is utterly bizarre.

[Noleafclover]

I am/was pretty drunk, but was this the fight with the illegal knee? That might explain the 10-8.

[MD]

I am/was pretty drunk, but was this the fight with the illegal knee? That might explain the 10-8.

No. That was Curran/Straus.

[Vaughany]

I am/was pretty drunk, but was this the fight with the illegal knee? That might explain the 10-8.

easy mistake too make, Strauss is spitting image of Alvarez

[NunyaBidness]

Someone photoshop Alvarez with dreadlock pigtails please, I need new fapping material.

[Vaughany]

lol

[hobbesITD]

I'm pretty sure Chandler did more than lay on Alvarez in round 4 but whatever.

Wouldn't a better thread be one organizing all of the questionable judges?

[MD]

I'm pretty sure Chandler did more than lay on Alvarez in round 4 but whatever.

Wouldn't a better thread be one organizing all of the questionable judges?

There is one of those already.

[hobbesITD]

link?

[Vaughany]

link?

lol its like the first thread!

[hobbesITD]

lol its like the first thread!

I literally can't read. All I see are two event threads, this one, hougigo's boxing thread, and november news. Don't see a judging one.

Is it pros only or something?

[MD]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/2254806-calling-out-corrupt-mma-judges.html

Interestingly enough, to find the thread, I simply searched for "Mike Beltran".

[MD]

Can we count Gabe as a media judge? He thought Hallmann deserved the win over Iaquinta, and that Craig was the right side against Barnatt, as he was "dominating" until Barnatt rocked him. Even said that he'd bet Craig again at the same price if they fought again.

Also, he did bet on Stepanyan, V!

[Vaughany]

hahaha course he did! all in no doubt. I admire his blind loyalty to his fellow Armo's tho

[mmaed]

Glad I chickened out on stepanyan. Dmn curran though.

[TPowell]

Chandler won 1 and 4 for sure. Alvarez won 5 for sure (maybe even 10-8) and 2 and 3 were rounds that Alvarez probably won.

[MD]

Chandler won 1 and 4 for sure. Alvarez won 5 for sure (maybe even 10-8) and 2 and 3 were rounds that Alvarez probably won.

I agree with you completely, but I'd say that Alvarez clearly won R3, also. Hard to imagine giving that to Chandler to be honest.

[TPowell]

I agree with you completely, but I'd say that Alvarez clearly won R3, also. Hard to imagine giving that to Chandler to be honest.

those 2 are running together to be honest. I feel like one of them was an Alv. round but idr

[Thor4140]

How does anyone give Eddie round two? He got suplex all over the ring. I wonder if Rory also got penalized for that when he did it to Nate and lose that round also. Chandler 1,2 4. Did takedowns count in this fight?

[Thor4140]

MMA frenzy saw the same second round as i did

Rd. 2- Jabs by Chandler early but Eddie is moving forward to start the frame. Nasty right by Chandler and Alvarez recovers to land a good counter. Nice uppercut by Chandler as he moves in. Jab by Alvarez. Both fights have cuts under their right eyes now. Nice left by the champ. Another solid combo by Chandler. Both men are landing solid jabs. Alvarez fends off a takedown. Both men are landing jabs and Eddie is back in retreat. Chandler with a takedown and he lands a snatch and return as Eddie stands. Chandler with another slam timed to avoid a back elbow. Chandler switches to a double leg now as Alvarez lands some short shots. Alvarez is looking to his corner and he finally does something to stand. Chandler is now badly cut and has swelling on his left eye. Nice combo by Alvarez and Chandler again lands a takedown. Punches and elbows from Chandler as the round ends. MMAFrenzy has it 10-9 Chandler.

Three take downs two of them slams and he loses the round lol. They must have showed Chandlers eye a few times in that round

[TPowell]

even so, I had it 3-1 heading into the 5th and thought Alvarez did enough for the 10-8, despite the last 30 seconds or so being a bust

[MD]

MMA frenzy saw the same second round as i did

Rd. 2- Jabs by Chandler early but Eddie is moving forward to start the frame. Nasty right by Chandler and Alvarez recovers to land a good counter. Nice uppercut by Chandler as he moves in. Jab by Alvarez. Both fights have cuts under their right eyes now. Nice left by the champ. Another solid combo by Chandler. Both men are landing solid jabs. Alvarez fends off a takedown. Both men are landing jabs and Eddie is back in retreat. Chandler with a takedown and he lands a snatch and return as Eddie stands. Chandler with another slam timed to avoid a back elbow. Chandler switches to a double leg now as Alvarez lands some short shots. Alvarez is looking to his corner and he finally does something to stand. Chandler is now badly cut and has swelling on his left eye. Nice combo by Alvarez and Chandler again lands a takedown. Punches and elbows from Chandler as the round ends. MMAFrenzy has it 10-9 Chandler.

Three take downs two of them slams and he loses the round lol. They must have showed Chandlers eye a few times in that round

Most media outlets scored R2 for Chandler. Not the point of the thread.

[Thor4140]

Most media outlets scored R2 for Chandler. Not the point of the thread.

sure it is. The thread is about shitty judging in round five and im showing how most of u are shitty judges giving Alvarez round two. Chandler took the title away from Eddie. Eddie barely wins and in most eyes loses but still gets the title. Chandler man up and took it. Edddie gets it back while a lot of people thought Channdler won. Eddie gets all close rounds in a championship fight according to some of u. U can't make this shit up.

[MD]

sure it is. The thread is about shitty judging in round five and im showing how most of u are shitty judges giving Alvarez round two. Chandler took the title away from Eddie. Eddie barely wins and in most eyes loses but still gets the title. Chandler man up and took it. Edddie gets it back while a lot of people thought Channdler won. Eddie gets all close rounds in a championship fight according to some of u. U can't make this shit up.

There was exactly one close round in that fight, the other four were easy to score, and for you to act as if it's a robbery because you had money on Chandler is silly.

[gabe]

Sup MD? Instead of being a decent person and contacting me privately to let me know that I made an error in my tally, you made a fifteen paragraph thread trashing me, proving you are nothing short of a hater out to do me harm. Congratulations, you did. I nearly lost my job over a tiny mistake you made a gigantic deal about, when all could have been avoided if you had just informed me that I made a mistake, rather than trying to hang me for it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

Take care.

[NunyaBidness]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

Sounds like he'd fit right in over there at the corner of scumbag st and bowlcut lane.

[sideloaded]

Sup MD? Instead of being a decent person and contacting me privately to let me know that I made an error in my tally, you made a fifteen paragraph thread trashing me, proving you are nothing short of a hater out to do me harm. Congratulations, you did. I nearly lost my job over a tiny mistake you made a gigantic deal about, when all could have been avoided if you had just informed me that I made a mistake, rather than trying to hang me for it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

Take care.

not a big deal man, nuyna turned you in to the irs. I tried to get Wannabet fired. Only thing left to do is find MD's personal info and try to get him thrown off the irish unemployment system.

[sideloaded]

gabe since they didnt fire you, nick and luca obviosly agree MD was trying to stich you up. Given Luca's past threats on here and Nick's access to the 5dimes database it shouldnt be hard for them to pin point who MD is based on his bettng patterns and plays posted in his thread. That info could be sent over to you and you could hand out your own e-justice.

this shit is not a game

[MD]

Sup MD? Instead of being a decent person and contacting me privately to let me know that I made an error in my tally, you made a fifteen paragraph thread trashing me, proving you are nothing short of a hater out to do me harm. Congratulations, you did. I nearly lost my job over a tiny mistake you made a gigantic deal about, when all could have been avoided if you had just informed me that I made a mistake, rather than trying to hang me for it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

Take care.

I am going to say this for the last time, and it's not for you, it's for everyone who's reading this and may actually take you seriously or think that you're not a liar: the first time you lied about your record (when you went 13-8, and claimed to have went 18-1), I tweeted you, in a friendly manor, and said, basically "hey man, you messed up your record, you went 13-8, not 18-1". I knew that you were being disingenuous, but I have no issue with you, so I thought I'd just point it out. Your reaction was to tweet me dozens of times with abusive messages, and direct message me calling me a backstabber, a scumbag, a pussy, and just about every other name you could think of. You are well aware of this.

You are a liar, Gabe, and I gave you the decency of pointing out in a friendly way that you "miscalculated" your 13-8 record as 18-1 somehow, and you completely abused me for it through multiple tweets and DM's, instead of respecting what I had done.

Maybe you should have realized by now that if you post your record publicly, people will notice when you lie about your results after the fact.

[MD]

Sup MD? Instead of being a decent person and contacting me privately to let me know that I made an error in my tally, you made a fifteen paragraph thread trashing me, proving you are nothing short of a hater out to do me harm. Congratulations, you did. I nearly lost my job over a tiny mistake you made a gigantic deal about, when all could have been avoided if you had just informed me that I made a mistake, rather than trying to hang me for it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

Take care.

Just for the record, I never wanted you to lose your job, otherwise I wouldn't have told you politely in the first place. I even told Luca that I think you can be a valuable asset to his service if you stop manipulating your results. I don't wish you any ill will, I barely know you, I'm not going to wish badly on someone because they cussed me out on Twitter, I just don't respect what you're doing. I especially don't respect the way you handled it, because we were pretty friendly and we spoke often, and as soon as I told you that your recordkeeping was wrong, you were a massive dick to me. I don't think you're a bad person, and I hope you don't lose your job, but it's irresponsible of you to blame me when I let you know in advance that I thought you had made a "mistake", and you responded like that. Most others here would have just shafted you from the beginning.

[bjpenn85]

wow, that was pathetic gabe. haha

[Ron_Paul_2012]

How does anyone give Eddie round two? He got suplex all over the ring. I wonder if Rory also got penalized for that when he did it to Nate and lose that round also. Chandler 1,2 4. Did takedowns count in this fight?

You are correct sir.

[Vaughany]

not a big deal man, nuyna turned you in to the irs. I tried to get Wannabet fired. Only thing left to do is find MD's personal info and try to get him thrown off the irish unemployment system.

lmao yeah just another day on SBR!