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I actually remember thinking of that during the fight, he kept saying his name while Dunham was doing the work, it does not make me think the fight is rigged though I guess thats where we differ.Originally Posted by Thor4140
http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fights/index/4286
He should of won with the takedowns alone, the way its been scored lately.
One thing i hate about bookies is how they all slobber over one another to get a guy like you to bet with them.^Ahahhahahh
Fkn dying over here
Thor please change your name to Two Anus, I promise I will believe whatever you tell me.
I'll give you a $5000 freeroll. Name all the robberies on the next 4 ufc cards in advance. You get all of them right, I paypal you $5,000 on conclusion of the 4th card. If you lose, you shut the penetrate up about this shit.
Estevan Payan, Antonio Neto, Roland Delorme and David Mitchell.
Those 4 probably are not making much money at all, it is a total robbery.
Not on the next four cards, but 90% chance "Nah-Shon Burrell" robs someone.
I'm not racist, but it doesn't get blacker than that.
Don't be upset my friend. I was laughing with you not at you. Kinda.
Now I feel bad though, so riddle me this Thoranus, how do you determine how the money is coming in on, thus who the fix is in on? By seeing who people on this site bet on? You realize this is a very very small percentage of bettors worldwide right? And Dos Anjos line was getting better, so people would be betting against Dunham not on him seemingly.
Would like to see some percentages on how much money is bet in Casinos compared to online books in the USA and Worldwide. How do you people bet anyway as
to do online in US as far as I know.
You dont have to tell me if its a secret, who knows whos watching. Maybe the 5dimes/athletic commission mafia? :0
hey now lets atleast be fair.
according the the same courtesy that is extended to other sbr sharps he should be able to go 0-20 before his theory is even considered invalid.
hey man be fair. you put anything by the aliens guy it will make the person look stupid. seeThis guy is penetrating gold, man.
There was no way they could rob Lentz of that and make it look legit. This was a very close fight after all.
people in this thread are sitting at both extremes.
you have a group of people getting extremely defensive when their little boat is rocked.
for the record I think thor is right about these "robberies" just wrong about the motivations behind them. has nothing to do with gambling money, it has to do with which fighter will make more money for the organization.
Take the aliev/marshall fight. I'm 99% sure that decision was a work, and i take it you CLOWNS agree with me because you didnt say shit to the contrary in the thread i made.
When you think about the fight, it makes no sense that it the decision was fixed because of money on one side, considering the only place you could bet it was focking 5 dimes at 100$ a pop.
It makes no sense that marshall himself paid off the judges because he is broke and wasnt even getting paid shit for the fight. I guess he could have promised them a cut of the 100k prize money, but he would still have to win another fight in the finals, so it seems pretty unlikely the judges would compromise themselves on the possibility of a payday.
The most likely scenario is that bellator made it known to the judges they wanted marshall to advance in the tournament. it makes perfect sense in hindsight. if aliev were to win, that means he fights cooper in the final. boring ass russian wrestler who doesnt speak english vs boring ass american wrestler. neither with a mohawk or tattoo on their pecker. this is bad for business.
now its marshall vs schlemenko, which is actually a half decent fight that as a fan i wouldnt mind seeing. it also ensures that no matter who wins the middlewieght champ will be "exciting" (i.e not a homosex wrestler). cooper vs sclemenko would have been absolute shit. aliev vs schlemenko might even have bankrupted the organization. especially if alvarez left
what? what happened to all the little phaget kids who were raised by zuffa and consider dana white their father? where you at?
why arent you in here nominating each others flippant posts featuring age old memes from movies that came out before your testicles descended?
i cant tell if these bitch ass monkeys are hiding under the bed from defacto kreplach or if it is just a school day.
was really hoping someone we could have some discussion but i see this thread will be me talking and you guys listening. aurryyyttte
little monkey ass moofuuckas
Now lets look at some of the major fights in the UFC that are were considered to be "robberies". the same "robberies" that occur over and over yet they are still blamed on incomoptenece rather than corruption.
Bendo vs Edgar 2. Everyone on here was whining about the decision. I remember i came and trolled people who raged when i called frankie a manlet. i bet bendo but was honestly shocked when the decison went his way. frankie though he had it too, he got so mad and threw his manlet hat.
Funny the decision goes against edgar after dana STRONGLY encouraged him to drop down in weight. dana white stated on numerous occasions that he was worried about frankie getting hurt at 155 and ruining his cash flow, while frankie edgar was only interested in fighting two weigh classes above him due to napolean complex. Edgar could fight for years at 135.
But im sure it was just ANOTHER bad call that worked out exactly the way dana wanted it.
those stupid judges.
Moving on, we have the bisping sonnen fight. another blatant robbery that benefits the ufc.
after the "robbery' chael launches into a pre-rehearsed diatribe calling out anderson silva for a match the the UFC hyped as "the biggest in the history of the organization". Certainly a bigger money maker than bisping/silva.
those stupid judges focked up again and their bad decision made the ufc tens of millions in revenue.
DeFacto says what many dont want to believe.....its all money motivated
Fights aren't fixed. Same way NBA games aren't fixed.
Why would Dana want that? Bendo is one of the only phlags who cant pull a ppv.
I dont agree with that one being a robbery on Dana's interest.
I agree there is a lot of BS crooked shit. But some are crooked and some are incompetent.
In NBA isnot as common as you say either. Maybe im being naive but i lean to think you are going too deep on it.
man i think video series is amazing. props to whoever made it.
i remember they kept getting youtube to take it down because of some bullshit copyright because of 10 seconds of music used. if they were that vigilant with other copyright violations 90% of youtube videos would be taken down.
for focks sakes they would have taken down wannabet's videos because the music playing in the background was copyrighted.
I said in the post bro. dana white explicitly said after he lost to bendo he first time he dint want frankie fighting at 155 because he thought he couldnt handle the punches, and claimed he was concerned with frankie's "health".
He even said he didn't want to grant frankie the rematch but couldnt refuse because of the heart he showed (which i agree with). So why would dana want frankie to win, he would still be at 155?
It's not like frankie would be retiring, he would be pulling ppv's at the lower weight classes. and he would be less likely to seriously hurt and be forced to retire. Dana got exactly what he wanted.
I don't think it was because bendo was a bigger draw, it was just that he didnt want frankie. which wasnt a secret either.
Hanlon's Razor people.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
i remember one time when i walked in on my girl focking this nigerian with a 12 inch pecker and as she was riding him (they didnt stop) she told me she lost her contact lens inside her pussy and he was helping her find it with his cack.
I wish I knew about this hanlans razor shit back hen. could have saved the relantionship
Does stepping ones foot over the line really make that big a difference with a free-throw?!
Why are there rarely any rounds that are scored 10-10?
Seems weird doesn't it? Most mma fans tend to agree, no?
It also seems unfair because their are so many rounds where there is no actual winner, and the judges give to one guy because they think he landed one more punch?
So, are all these judges simply stubborn? We don't get any "rogue" judges who want to get cute and start scoring 10-10 rounds?
The reason you dont see 10-10 rounds is because in a three round fight it increases the likelyhood of a draw by a lot. and a draw is the WORST thing that can happen for a promotion. especially in a title eliminator or something similar.
Imagine if Tate was up 2 rounds on Zingano but instead of getting finished, tate just got pummeled in the third round in what was clearly a 10-8. Now we have a draw. What the fock do they do, postpone the filming of focking TUF for atleast 3 months so they can train. and that is pending no injuries that would require suspensions. realistically the turnaround on a rematch would be 6 months or more. focking nuclear bomb to the promotion.
The only time you ever see a draw is in a title fight (rarely) or when a point is deducted.
So once again, we either have every judge across the entire continent INDEPENDTANLY towing a line of no 10-10 rounds (which coincidentally benfeits the promotion) despite the fact they are under scrutiny for this, or have they just been instructed by the organization to pick a winner for each round no matter what so there will be fewer draws?
yes, it's been something that has annoyed me forever! Ridiculous how somebody gonna knock his opponent down 3 times in a round and get a 10-9, then in next round opponent perhaps lands 3 more jabs and nothing else happens yet also gets a 10-9. Scoring system as always been a joke tho
probably not
but does it really change the degree of difficultly if your toe is on the 3 point line by a 1/4 inch. but it still the rules.
you focking soccer niqqas dont respect the lines. niqqas be dribbling the soccer ball and it is like 90% over the line but nobody says anything.
the fock
why would u care that i talk about this stuff? Are u this gullible to actually think there is no way this could happen and your feelings get hurt when someone approaches the subject? You want me to do it five more times after i did it once lol. Go cry to the moderators if you want me to stop talking about it. That is usually the trump card for an asshole like you. Fuk off.
haha
Or maybe he thinks it's pointless going on about it if it's not actually benefiting you in some way? Like what are you gaining from it? If you are making money by betting on these fights that you know are fixed then yes it's all great....hence why he's challenged you to name them.
First of all the line tells you all you need to know if you have enuf brains and can read them. I have access to a few books so i do know where the money is going. Moving a line doesn't mean shit when it comes to these theives. Just because the line move to Dos Anjos means shit. Maybe it means they were taking a position and sucking as much money as they want. Here is something to think about. Why do books all move their lines at once? They can't possibly be all getting hit with the same game at the same time could they. If money moved lines they would all do it individually. Why lets say a Sunday football game we see a line movement of two points at eight a.m. eastern when the game isn't till one and why do they all do it together? That should tell ya something right there.
Because books really, really hate losing money, and arbing loses them a lot of money. Normally if one book moves, the rest will adjust to prevent opportunities like that.
i will get to the rest of u doubters later.
Cmon man 1 out of 20 guys might arb bets. Silly
now ask yourself when have they scored a 10-10 round and the fight resulted in a draw. fitch versus penn comes to mind.
Now can we agree that was a robbery? Rogan was saying the whole fight how he thought fitch was clearly winning and he even asked penn after if he thought he did enough to deserve a draw and he was just like "no". lol
So the one focking time there is a 10-10 round and a draw, it was a "robbery" which took away a much deserved title shot from a prolifically boring fighter who just happened to be dominating the division. not to mention that title fight was against a prolifically boring champion, in a rematch of a prolifcally boring fight that nobody really wanted to see in the first place.
Then on top of getting robbed he gets railroaded out of the organization? cut after one loss?
cant make this shit up
But they are juus, they want every penny.
it benefits me in all the other sports. MMA is still fresh and i am pointing out what they are doing so guys who actually can think a little don't get caught up in some of these bullshit lines. What i said before the Dunham fight is a pretty slick prediction and it came true. I basically said the same thing about the Larkin Carmont fight before that fight. Why i ask that i somehow picked two fights on separate cards that everyone complained about? Before the fact. To me it looks like the same thing is gonna happen in the Grant Maynard fight. I did it in the Dunham fight and the Carmont fight and trust me im not physic. What i am is a guy that can read bullshit a mile away.
im with you, did you see my vitor analysis thread?
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