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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    over 5 digits about two weeks after the superbowl and climbing,everyday i win,the number changes and i pay out loses weekly when needed,lets just say it'll be a pretty penny
    If GSP loses, what will it do to your livelihood? Honest answer please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    i have mutiple bets per night tonight i have gsp parlayed with hou,okc,spurs 2nite....hou for less due to their record....i due bet more in when needed
    Milwaukee 110
    Houston 107


    Phoenix 105
    San Antonio 101
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    If GSP loses, what will it do to your livelihood? Honest answer please.
    gsp wont lose

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    How much did Tim Duncan cost you

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    but houston was due!

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    Can't wait for nunya to see this

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    gsp wont lose
    That's a stupid response. What would it do to your livelihood if he did lose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    Can't wait for nunya to see this
    my plays were okc-1500/gsp-470 1000 to win 293...gsp-470/spurs-3000/okc-1500/hou-350 i bet 250 on that 4teamer,its payed out179...so i still won 43 bucks... i wasnt sold on hou at home and spurs -3000 kills any parlay so i just tied then in with okc,and gsp....i called okc as my main bet last night....go back in the thread and look

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    That's a stupid response. What would it do to your livelihood if he did lose?
    most likely gona hedge the bet dude,look on page three for what i said

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    most likely gona hedge the bet dude,look on page three for what i said
    If you hedge, you realize that you're losing money by parlaying GSP, right? I hope I don't need to explain the math, but you're taking a loss if you do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    If you hedge, you realize that you're losing money by parlaying GSP, right? I hope I don't need to explain the math, but you're taking a loss if you do that.
    nope with moneyline hedge,my anchor(the second half of the bet) needs to be the favorite,so day of the fight i hedge in this case diaz,the underdog at plus+350..... lets say all my parlays fist half of the bet won,and second half is waiting on gsp,and i have 20 bets risking 1000 to win 500...i betting 20g's to win 10g's ....i bet 5714 on diaz+350 ...i walk away with 4700 before the fight starts...know what you talking about before you open your mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    nope with moneyline hedge,my anchor(the second half of the bet) needs to be the favorite,so day of the fight i hedge in this case diaz,the underdog at plus+350..... lets say all my parlays fist half of the bet won,and second half is waiting on gsp,and i have 20 bets risking 1000 to win 500...i betting 20g's to win 10g's ....i bet 5714 on diaz+350 ...i walk away with 4700 before the fight starts...know what you talking about before you open your mouth
    You are legitimately an idiot. I'm 85% certain you're a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    You are legitimately an idiot. I'm 85% certain you're a troll.
    ok u tell me how if i hedge the bets like i explained above,that i will lose money///i wana hear your side of this and explain...otherwise if all you have is nothing but stupid comments with no points,get off my jock and get out of this thread....im talking and explaining a technique to make money,and your adding nothing of importance

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbird509 View Post
    ok u tell me how if i hedge the bets like i explained above,that i will lose money///i wana hear your side of this and explain...otherwise if all you have is nothing but stupid comments with no points,get off my jock and get out of this thread....im talking and explaining a technique to make money,and your adding nothing of importance
    what they are making fun of you for is the fact that you could just bet all of your money on GSP straight up while paying less juice and taking less risks (Assuming GSP is a lock)than your hedging scenario. 20,000 down on a -470= 4255.32 your 20k hedge to win 10k minus the 5714 if diaz does indeed lose is 4286. But then you have to go back and count up all those losses you took on houston and san antonio, which were quite substantial hits if you bet 500-1000 on each of these types of two team wonders.Simply put, unless you won 100 percent of your wagers, a few losses with juice that high will destroy your bankroll. You are screwing yourself by taking more risks and paying similar juice with parlays with the intention to hedge anyway. So why not just let it all ride on GSP in the first place if that is your go to bet?

    Say you get into a scenario where you lose enough of these first legs of your parlays to where hedging for a profit is out of the window, and all you can hedge is for a loss. You decide not to hedge because you still want to make a profit, so you end up with 20 k on GSP to make about 4k for example. Because you placed 20 bets for 1000 and lost 4 of them. You now have 16000 on GSP to win 8000, but you have to take away 4000 from your profits because you lost 4000 betting the NBA. This math includes 1k bets. You bet on 20 bets that had an 80 percent chance of winning so you lost 4 out of the 20. Now you decide to let it ride on GSP because otherwise hedging will cost you money. In this scenario you have GSP for 20k at -500 odds. If GSP doesn't win you're fuked. And if he does win you paid a lot more juice and went through a lot more trouble than you needed to.
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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindTheLock View Post
    what they are making fun of you for is the fact that you could just bet all of your money on GSP straight up while paying less juice and taking less risks (Assuming GSP is a lock)than your hedging scenario. 20,000 down on a -470= 4255.32 your 20k hedge to win 10k minus the 5714 if diaz does indeed lose is 4286. But then you have to go back and count up all those losses you took on houston and san antonio, which were quite substantial hits if you bet 500-1000 on each of these types of two team wonders.Simply put, unless you won 100 percent of your wagers, a few losses with juice that high will destroy your bankroll. You are screwing yourself by taking more risks and paying similar juice with parlays with the intention to hedge anyway. So why not just let it all ride on GSP in the first place if that is your go to bet?

    Say you get into a scenario where you lose enough of these first legs of your parlays to where hedging for a profit is out of the window, and all you can hedge is for a loss. You decide not to hedge because you still want to make a profit, so you end up with 20 k on GSP to make about 4k for example. Because you placed 20 bets for 1000 and lost 4 of them. You now have 16000 on GSP to win 8000, but you have to take away 4000 from your profits because you lost 4000 betting the NBA. This math includes 1k bets. You bet on 20 bets that had an 80 percent chance of winning so you lost 4 out of the 20. Now you decide to let it ride on GSP because otherwise hedging will cost you money. In this scenario you have GSP for 20k at -500 odds. If GSP doesn't win you're fuked. And if he does win you paid a lot more juice and went through a lot more trouble than you needed to.
    Nice stuff. Sad thing is in english and the dude cant understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabaka View Post
    Nice stuff. Sad thing is in english and the dude cant understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post

    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindTheLock View Post
    what they are making fun of you for is the fact that you could just bet all of your money on GSP straight up while paying less juice and taking less risks (Assuming GSP is a lock)than your hedging scenario. 20,000 down on a -470= 4255.32 your 20k hedge to win 10k minus the 5714 if diaz does indeed lose is 4286. But then you have to go back and count up all those losses you took on houston and san antonio, which were quite substantial hits if you bet 500-1000 on each of these types of two team wonders.Simply put, unless you won 100 percent of your wagers, a few losses with juice that high will destroy your bankroll. You are screwing yourself by taking more risks and paying similar juice with parlays with the intention to hedge anyway. So why not just let it all ride on GSP in the first place if that is your go to bet?

    Say you get into a scenario where you lose enough of these first legs of your parlays to where hedging for a profit is out of the window, and all you can hedge is for a loss. You decide not to hedge because you still want to make a profit, so you end up with 20 k on GSP to make about 4k for example. Because you placed 20 bets for 1000 and lost 4 of them. You now have 16000 on GSP to win 8000, but you have to take away 4000 from your profits because you lost 4000 betting the NBA. This math includes 1k bets. You bet on 20 bets that had an 80 percent chance of winning so you lost 4 out of the 20. Now you decide to let it ride on GSP because otherwise hedging will cost you money. In this scenario you have GSP for 20k at -500 odds. If GSP doesn't win you're fuked. And if he does win you paid a lot more juice and went through a lot more trouble than you needed to.
    your points are very well made,heres what i left out,i dont parlay -3000,in two or 3 teamers...i only use them in 4teamers cause they eat up your parlays,once again i ONLY bet certain teams at home,ind/spurs/okc/mia..since the superbowl ive lost 3 times on these 3 teams,but because spurs were -3000 and okc -1500 last night,i needed a 3rd team to get a decent payout on parlay,thats why i took hou,i only had 250 on 4teamer,ive already stated all this earlier that i still won money last night,but since this isnt rocket science to follow these teams at home,my winning percentage parlaying these 4 teams at home is very high....the key is when their at home...since the superbowl ive lost two 500 bets on indiana,and lost 250 on spurs yesterday..look up their records if u dont believe me..my average bet is 500 but obvioulsy alot of factors are included...most of them have to do with how much money you have to risk and how much you get back in return...once again your points were well made and considered before i started doing this...................

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    guy is trolling now, has to be gabe

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    Gaberz has got a new twitter account just for his MMA bets!

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    Gabe would say lol and idiot way more and brag about hitting hettes at dog odds

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    king mo was exposed after that fight if you ask me.....not even near the best guy in his camp

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    obv after...i meant before that fight....if you couldnt read into short end hype like his...just quit now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Gaberz has got a new twitter account just for his MMA bets!
    please tell the address,without linking to it of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    please tell the address,without linking to it of course
    gabe covers (all one word)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Gaberz has got a new twitter account just for his MMA bets!
    PM it to me pleaaaase! I miss the rooster_eater

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    Milwaukee 110
    Houston 107


    Phoenix 105
    San Antonio 101
    Well, at least OKC won.

    So, let's see, just yesterday, you had

    GSP with Hou, so that's $500 to win $250 Loss
    GSP with OKC so that's $1000 to win $130 win
    GSP with SAN so that $1000 to win $121 loss

    So, looks like you've got $2,500 to win $130 on GSP from yesterday. That's like getting GSP at -2000!

    And then you can just hedge it with Nick Diaz at +300.

    Winning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    gabe covers (all one word)
    Someone with a twitter account please tell him that Nunya is begging him to come back to SBR.

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    il let him know cuz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Well, at least OKC won.

    So, let's see, just yesterday, you had

    GSP with Hou, so that's $500 to win $250 Loss
    GSP with OKC so that's $1000 to win $130 win
    GSP with SAN so that $1000 to win $121 loss

    So, looks like you've got $2,500 to win $130 on GSP from yesterday. That's like getting GSP at -2000!

    And then you can just hedge it with Nick Diaz at +300.

    Winning!
    lol

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