1. 01-07-13 06:13 PM #36
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    Thank you, thor!
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  3. 01-08-13 07:44 AM #38
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    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...event-in-japan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/20 13/...event-in-japan
    Solid main card for a fuel event. Could easily be an fx!
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  5. 01-08-13 02:01 PM #40
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    Reem got licensed.

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    I can't watch Dana give a politically correct interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1y View Post
    I can't watch Dana give a politically correct interview.
    he brings out some of his classics.... the whole "if there are 4 different sports happening in 4 corners of a playground and one of the sports is a fight everybody will stop and go and watch the fight!" He loves tht little one. Also his classic technique of answering any question about fighter health or pay by diverting around the actual question by going on about boxing and NFL....

    - "Dana, are you not concerned about the amount of concussions that your fighters get?"

    - "Have you watched NFL recently muthafucker...there are multiple concussions in every game...we have ringside doctors and is the most regulated sport on the planet muthafucker."

    I wish somebody would actually then go back again and say "yeah that's great about NFL but has nothing to do with UFC!"
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  8. 01-08-13 11:11 PM #43
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    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...e-for-bellator

    Bellator pulling dirty tactics with another fighter. Eddie did a segment on the MMA Hour but they haven't posted it on youtube yet. Guy seems to be getting legit screwed at the moment. Hopefully they don't drag this garbage out too long in court so the dude can fight.
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  9. 01-09-13 04:41 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercersux View Post
    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...e-for-bellator

    Bellator pulling dirty tactics with another fighter. Eddie did a segment on the MMA Hour but they haven't posted it on youtube yet. Guy seems to be getting legit screwed at the moment. Hopefully they don't drag this garbage out too long in court so the dude can fight.
    Disagree. Very reasonable tactics, I think.
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    Yeah I'm with MD, its a bit cutthroat and hard assed, but when you sign a contract you should be fully aware of what you are signing.
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  11. 01-09-13 11:27 AM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    Yeah I'm with MD, its a bit cutthroat and hard assed, but when you sign a contract you should be fully aware of what you are signing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Disagree. Very reasonable tactics, I think.
    No. Very dirty tactics. I mean I can understand why they would do such a thing. Alvarez is a big name commodity for Bellator while the Ufc would just add him to a stable of name and competitive lightweights. It's just the fact that they try to spin the matching contract in a way to look Alvarez look like an a-hole. They did some dirty contract stuff to Tyson Nam. Now that situation made this look small but they were getting dragged in the mud over that one so they backed off. This one I think they'll drag out as long as they can. Not good for the sport and not good to establish this as norm in mma. Especially for the lesser known fighters.
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  12. 01-09-13 11:56 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercersux View Post
    No. Very dirty tactics. I mean I can understand why they would do such a thing. Alvarez is a big name commodity for Bellator while the Ufc would just add him to a stable of name and competitive lightweights. It's just the fact that they try to spin the matching contract in a way to look Alvarez look like an a-hole. They did some dirty contract stuff to Tyson Nam. Now that situation made this look small but they were getting dragged in the mud over that one so they backed off. This one I think they'll drag out as long as they can. Not good for the sport and not good to establish this as norm in mma. Especially for the lesser known fighters.
    They promoted him, established his career and built him up, and he signed a contract with a stipulation that allows Bellator to match any offers from outside companies for the express purpose of keeping a commodity that they established. I think it's more than reasonable. Surely you think the UFC would do the exact same thing? I think it's great for the sport. What's the motivation for a small company to build a superstar if they can't reap the benefits? If this weren't the case, you would never, ever have a Lombard situation, or an Overeem situation, or an Alvarez situation again, where there's big, hyped up fighters migrating to the UFC, because it simply wouldn't be profitable for smaller businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    They promoted him, established his career and built him up, and he signed a contract with a stipulation that allows Bellator to match any offers from outside companies for the express purpose of keeping a commodity that they established. I think it's more than reasonable. Surely you think the UFC would do the exact same thing? I think it's great for the sport. What's the motivation for a small company to build a superstar if they can't reap the benefits? If this weren't the case, you would never, ever have a Lombard situation, or an Overeem situation, or an Alvarez situation again, where there's big, hyped up fighters migrating to the UFC, because it simply wouldn't be profitable for smaller businesses.
    Fair enough. While I tend to believe that Alvarez did more to make Bellator reputable than vice versa, I can understand the point your making. Now the Tyson Nam situation is just Bellator being a bunch of jerks. I mean what do some of these fighters have as a choice than to sign these restrictive contracts? Unless you have some sort of reputation in the fight game you aren't making money anywhere besides Bellator & UFC. This is where a union or some sort of measure to protect the fighters should be in place. Boxing & MMA have been chalk full of dirty promoters so I'm not shocked but it still doesn't make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercersux View Post
    Fair enough. While I tend to believe that Alvarez did more to make Bellator reputable than vice versa, I can understand the point your making. Now the Tyson Nam situation is just Bellator being a bunch of jerks. I mean what do some of these fighters have as a choice than to sign these restrictive contracts? Unless you have some sort of reputation in the fight game you aren't making money anywhere besides Bellator & UFC. This is where a union or some sort of measure to protect the fighters should be in place. Boxing & MMA have been chalk full of dirty promoters so I'm not shocked but it still doesn't make it right.
    Funny thing since the UFC's "monopoly" on MMA got stronger, the quality of cards has only got worse.

    All they do now is exploit fighters because they have nowhere else to go.

    If they paid them better they wouldn't pull out of fights at the drop of a dime for the insurance money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    They promoted him, established his career and built him up, and he signed a contract with a stipulation that allows Bellator to match any offers from outside companies for the express purpose of keeping a commodity that they established. I think it's more than reasonable. Surely you think the UFC would do the exact same thing? I think it's great for the sport. What's the motivation for a small company to build a superstar if they can't reap the benefits? If this weren't the case, you would never, ever have a Lombard situation, or an Overeem situation, or an Alvarez situation again, where there's big, hyped up fighters migrating to the UFC, because it simply wouldn't be profitable for smaller businesses.

    zuffa would definitely do the same thing if they believed they were enforcing their contractual rights. look no further than the bj penn situation after he beat matt hughes for the belt. bj signed to fight in K1, so ufc stripped him of the belt. bj sued bc he believed he should still be the ufc champ even though he was fighting in k1 -- zuffa disagreed and argued that bj was breaching his contract. it got ugly. as an aside, that case was probably the genesis of the current "champions clause" which gives the promoter the right to keep a champion under contract.

    i believe zuffa did the same thing with couture when he was trying to fight fedor, right?
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  16. 01-09-13 03:43 PM #51
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    Shouldn't the fighters sports manager protect their fighters from signing a crappy contract?


    I've always been skeptical of some of these high profile sports managers.
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    I can understand Alvarez's motivations... but I can not help but think he goes into the UFC and goes 2 and 2 in his first 4 fights. That division is a shark tank.

    I get the desire to be on the big stage, but on some level, ones gotta think he is better off as the star attraction of Bellator, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    I can understand Alvarez's motivations... but I can not help but think he goes into the UFC and goes 2 and 2 in his first 4 fights. That division is a shark tank.

    I get the desire to be on the big stage, but on some level, ones gotta think he is better off as the star attraction of Bellator, no?
    no.
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  19. 01-09-13 04:08 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    no.
    Double no
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  20. 01-09-13 04:45 PM #55
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    Oh, okay then.
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    I mean I can see Gilbert being top of the division, honestly, top 3, but Eddie? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    I mean I can see Gilbert being top of the division, honestly, top 3, but Eddie? Really?
    Eddie excites me more than Gilbert. Probably more raw talent and, more importantly, he meshes better with the division. Gilbert could probably find a safer route into the top three UFC lightweights, sure, but he'd never be champion. There are guys that he just clearly wouldn't beat, such as Henderson and Maynard. Alvarez, on the other hand, is not only well-rounded, but a vicious finisher. A guy like that always has a chance to make waves. Gilbert has a better chance at being a top three guy, but Eddie's ceiling is an unknown, and that's why he's so interesting.
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  23. 01-09-13 05:12 PM #58
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    yeah Eddie is a lot more interesting to watch
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    melendez is more interesting to me than alvarez. melendez fights to win. alvarez gets hurt in every fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    yeah Eddie is a lot more interesting to watch
    Its the perfectly groomed eyebrows imo.
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  26. 01-09-13 05:53 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    Its the perfectly groomed eyebrows imo.
    Not his coc k this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Not his coc k this time?
    I never watched a bellator weigh in. you got some inside info for us buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    you got some inside info for us buddy?
    He does seem like the type to have some "info" inside him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    I never watched a bellator weigh in. you got some inside info for us buddy?
    Nah. Never been a big fan of the Hog.
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    Defact what ya think lol.

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    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...y-per-view-cut

    Nope, Alvarez getting screwed...Poor guy.
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    Daaammnnn immediate title shot. Badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Not his coc k this time?
    hehe
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    Well, they have taken this to court and I'm sure that any judge that is not completely retarded can see the difference between the two contracts. Zuffa already does 10-12 PPV a year (not sure about the actual number). Bellator does 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Defact what ya think lol.

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    Does Fury have "cardio for dayzzzz" and "top of the food chain striking"?!
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