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    Brian Stann Vs Michael Bisping UFC 152

    What are people thoughts on this ?

    Personally im all over Stann here, i think he will actually stop bisping

    The only way i see Bisping winning this fight is takedowns, which i dont think he will be able to get. Dont let Chaels domination of Stann fool you, Stann has decent Td defence and bisping has not very good takedowns. So i think this fight will be decided on the feet

    For some reason everyone is high as **** on bisping these days, yes he is good but not great and has swung from being underrated to overrated. His striking is good but his defence is pretty damn poor and he gets cracked clean every single fight, Kang, Akiyama, even Miller all landed clean and flush and all are average/poor strikers. Stann brings massive power and is more than willing to take one to give one

    Stann is clearly a very proud man and after Chael dominated him you could tell he was embarrassed. After the fight he went to work with Chael and imo has just been really hammering home his Td defence and getting back to his feet. So just to repeat i think this fight is staying on its feet with stann coming forward pressuring bisping and making his panic, and he does panic. When Bisping hard hitters he tends to move straight back chin in the air, Rogan calls him on this a lot and he still doesnt seem to have changed it

    This is Stanns biggest fight of his career vs no where close with bisping who has fought henderson and wanderlei, so i feel Stann will be more amped for this fight. Also when i look at Bispings record i think he has had favourable match ups. From UFC 105 onwards barring Chael Sonnen im certain Stann would of knocked out all of Bispings opponents, probably in the first round

    Add onto that Bisping is recovering from knee surgery even if it was minor, it still held him up and he got that big cut over his eye in training, which will have held him up even more. Stann has the superior training partners and trainers is bigger stronger and more powerful with a solid chin and cardio for 3 rounds who is going to pressure bisping and beat him. It will probably be a close fight right up until the moment Stann hits bisping clean and hard and bisping starts backing up and boom it will all be over and stann will be stood victorious

    Obviously im not ignorant to Bispings skills and he probably does have a better all round game. But just watching his fights against hard hitters and his striking defence, im really confident stann will take this and the fact he is at + money is surprising to me

    Ive got £100 on so far, which is quite alot for me at the minute. I dont have a bankroll as im not a frequent bettor i just bet when i fancy it or see a good opportunity like this one. I may possible go 5x higher on this bet leading up to the fight

    Anybody else big on Stann winning ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeFactoCrippler View Post
    Hey mods, does there really need to be numerous different threads for each fight, let alone each card? Does this phaget really need to make a new thread to say "I don't think Stann should be that big of a dog"?

    Or is he saying some deep cryptic shit that needs a whole new thread, or did he do all this just to say "I don't think a dog should be priced that high" like a brainless focking retard?

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    where is the other bisping vs stann thread ?

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    Stann TKO/KO/insdie hedged with Bisping dec for me

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    Yeh i thought about that, but bisping does actually have really good recovery and great defense on the ground so Stann might not get the finish but win a decision then i would lose it all

    Just going to take Stann straight up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave--M View Post
    where is the other bisping vs stann thread ?
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma...s-belfort.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Stann TKO/KO/insdie hedged with Bisping dec for me
    That's the man! 45-55% of profit with a much safer bet.

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    Stann hasn't fought a wrestler since Chael, so what makes you speak so highly of his newly found TDD?

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    Gabe, what made you think
    Pat Barry's sub defense/TDD would improve after his loss to Struve?

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    Ding ding ding we have a winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    Gabe, what made you think
    Pat Barry's sub defense/TDD would improve after his loss to Struve?
    The fact that he constantly talked about how much he was working on it?

    And I remember commenting on his sub defense, but not his TDD. I believed him when he said he had been working hard on it, and it paid off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    The fact that he constantly talked about how much he was working on it?

    And I remember commenting on his sub defense, but not his TDD. I believed him when he said he had been working hard on it, and it paid off.
    So couldnt it be the same with Stann and his TDD? He's always going on about TDD being his main focus and he's even brought in one of Jordan Burrough's team-mates and coach Raymond Jordan to live with him during this camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    So couldnt it be the same with Stann and his TDD? He's always going on about TDD being his main focus and he's even brought in one of Jordan Burrough's team-mates and coach Raymond Jordan to live with him during this camp.
    yeah... but he was saying the same shit before the chael fight...

    i initially thought that the OP implied that stann showed improved TDD since the chael loss... i misread what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Stann TKO/KO/insdie hedged with Bisping dec for me
    This all the way to the bank. Fight is not ending any other way.

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    I like Stann as an underdog at +150 or higher. I would love him at the +200 range, but anything less than +150, and it isn't worth a bet imo. I think Bisping will out strike him after the initial onslaught brought by Stann and prob. win a dec. I could also see Stann stopping him early, via flying Hendo hammer, I would love to see that. I will be taking Stann here, but I won't be laying anything large. GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Stann TKO/KO/insdie hedged with Bisping dec for me
    Where did you find those bets? All the books I've tried only allow me to bet on the winner of the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragoel2 View Post
    Where did you find those bets? All the books I've tried only allow me to bet on the winner of the fight.
    5 dimes/sportbet

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    The fact that he constantly talked about how much he was working on it?

    And I remember commenting on his sub defense, but not his TDD. I believed him when he said he had been working hard on it, and it paid off.
    Those are the exact same reasons i know he will have improved TDD

    He went straight to work with Chael after that fight and brought in that wrestler who Vaughny mentioned. He knows Bispings plan is to take him down

    Plus this is Bisping, not Chael. Stann is big and strong and i dont see bisping getting him down

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    I like Stann as an underdog at +150 or higher. I would love him at the +200 range, but anything less than +150, and it isn't worth a bet imo. I think Bisping will out strike him after the initial onslaught brought by Stann and prob. win a dec. I could also see Stann stopping him early, via flying Hendo hammer, I would love to see that. I will be taking Stann here, but I won't be laying anything large. GL.
    I really do hope he gets even better odds

    I can see bisping out striking him in a technical sense for a short time but it wont matter. Stann has the chin to take bispings punches and he will just walk forward into range and blast bisping, where i see bisping retreating backwards head in the air and getting smashed some more. Stann wont be content to lose a decision to bisping no way he will be trying to win the fight to the finishing bell. He has said numerous times this is the biggest fight of his life and how he is here for the belt and nothing else and he knows this fight will move him very close to it.

    I see bisping mixing it up nicely but not being able to get stann down and eventually getting tagged hard and stann either finishing him there and then or the hard shot making bisping timid and stann constantly pressing forwards and taking a decision

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