UFC 242: Khabib vs. Poirier (September 07, 2019)

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  • warlord
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    • 04-11-19
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    #36
    Originally posted by bjpenn85
    You wont get robbed, but poirier may finish khabib late. Even Khabib can get tired round 4 and round 5 after going 3-0 the first three rounds. In a three round fight -300 isnt the worst price...but youre letting poirier getting another 2 rounds, that should make you think twice. doesnt poirier have more than a 2 in 10 chance of winning in a five round fight?
    Off course its wrong, thats why you shouldnt make the bet, imo.
    But good luck, i hope you win obviously, its only one mans opinion anyway.
    Super excited for UFC 242, and got a same feeling. I haven't even watched his fights other than his loss vs mcgregor, i just got a weird feeling that Porier is gonna upset Khabib will ground and pound him...i say the wins comes via decision
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    • bjpenn85
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      #37
      Originally posted by warlord
      Super excited for UFC 242, and got a same feeling. I haven't even watched his fights other than his loss vs mcgregor, i just got a weird feeling that Porier is gonna upset Khabib will ground and pound him...i say the wins comes via decision
      We now see how good Gaethje is....Dustin stood in the pocket traded, took his best shot, and kind of broke Gaethje. Dustin will he quit? Answer is never. Dustin is perhaps the most aggressive person in the whole UFC. Every interview, man appears like a ticking bomb....he has the rage, he has the tenacity, the workhorse gene, he even collects money to the poor because he hates inequality and injustice. He is the diamond, he shines so bright it hurts me eyes nigggæ
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      • Teem
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        • 04-11-17
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        #38
        Wasn't Poirier getting finshed by Eddie until Eddie threw that 12 to 6 elbow? Pretty sure he was about to get TKO'd by Eddie. He got lucky there. Khabib is gonna smash him.
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        • PaperTrail07
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          #39
          DONE my 200@ you 440 ? Confirm and were good to go sir
          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
          I’ll take Taisumov for some BetPoints.
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          • PaperTrail07
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            #40
            Yeah his shots are much more precise-he less wild but oes throw a lot of Volume...
            Originally posted by bjpenn85
            We now see how good Gaethje is....Dustin stood in the pocket traded, took his best shot, and kind of broke Gaethje. Dustin will he quit? Answer is never. Dustin is perhaps the most aggressive person in the whole UFC. Every interview, man appears like a ticking bomb....he has the rage, he has the tenacity, the workhorse gene, he even collects money to the poor because he hates inequality and injustice. He is the diamond, he shines so bright it hurts me eyes nigggæ
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            • Hugo de Naranja
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              #41
              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
              DONE my 200@ you 440 ? Confirm and were good to go sir
              You're on mate. I like that you never back down from a challenge.
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              • bjpenn85
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                #42
                As if Fares Zaim isnt a pretty good grappler, look what i found, hes fakking Glory fighter as well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdwLbqkJTdM

                Well well well...things start to get very interesting now.....
                Last edited by bjpenn85; 08-31-19, 05:09 PM.
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                • Thrilla
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                  • 03-10-15
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                  #43
                  A lightweight title unification bout takes center stage at UFC 242 between undefeated champion Khabib Nurmagomedov and interim champion Dustin Poirier. Plus, Paul Felder rematches Edson Barboza. See these athletes prepare and train for their bouts.

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                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                    #44
                    Putting in some good time on tape today. Excited to see a lot of fights on this card. Who is everyone liking so far?
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                    • amrit
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                      Putting in some good time on tape today. Excited to see a lot of fights on this card. Who is everyone liking so far?
                      I took Islam/Khabib parlay a while back at -125. Probably only play.
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                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by amrit
                        I took Islam/Khabib parlay a while back at -125. Probably only play.
                        Nice! I've got that same one for 2u at (+100) when Islam was (-185) and Khabib was in the low (-300s)
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                        • Baraldsson
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by UncleChael
                          Can't wait!!! Khabib bleeds like everyone else.
                          I'm fully expecting this to be the first time we've ever seen Khabib bleed in the octagon - certainly don't remember ever seeing it before.

                          Problem is, Dustin hasn't really shown one punch KO power and I can't see him landing often enough to TKO Khabib with accumulated damage like he did to Gaethje, Alvarez etc.

                          Khabib will take him down and wear out his arms early on like he did with Conor so he knows there's little chance of being KOd even if Dustin does connect cleanly a couple of times.

                          Feeling a little conflicted about this fight because although I'd really love to see Dustin win, part of me feels our only realistic chance of ever seeing Khabib vs Tony is if they book it as Khabib's next fight, and that just won't happen if he loses to Dustin.

                          Khabib to win this one comfortably enough and hopefully face Tony next.
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Baraldsson
                            I'm fully expecting this to be the first time we've ever seen Khabib bleed in the octagon - certainly don't remember ever seeing it before.

                            Problem is, Dustin hasn't really shown one punch KO power and I can't see him landing often enough to TKO Khabib with accumulated damage like he did to Gaethje, Alvarez etc.

                            Khabib will take him down and wear out his arms early on like he did with Conor so he knows there's little chance of being KOd even if Dustin does connect cleanly a couple of times.

                            Feeling a little conflicted about this fight because although I'd really love to see Dustin win, part of me feels our only realistic chance of ever seeing Khabib vs Tony is if they book it as Khabib's next fight, and that just won't happen if he loses to Dustin.

                            Khabib to win this one comfortably enough and hopefully face Tony next.
                            Pretty much agree with all of the above. Huge Dustin fan. Had a five minute conversation with him in person when I was first getting into MMA. First class guy for sure. I think he is capable of winning here but definitely favor Khabib. Like you said, he doesn’t have the one punch power of a guy like McGregor so his path to victory is narrow.
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                            • Baraldsson
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              Pretty much agree with all of the above. Huge Dustin fan. Had a five minute conversation with him in person when I was first getting into MMA. First class guy for sure. I think he is capable of winning here but definitely favor Khabib. Like you said, he doesn’t have the one punch power of a guy like McGregor so his path to victory is narrow.
                              Always strikes me as a decent guy when you overhear what he says to his opponents in the octagon at the end of a fight. Also really liked a clip I saw of him trying to console Max Holloway's son, telling him 'Your Dad is still a champ" and stuff like that.

                              Where'd you meet him, Hugo?
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                              • Thrilla
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                                #50
                                Event Background

                                UFC 242: Khabib vs. Poirier is an upcoming mixed martial arts pay-per-view event produced by the Ultimate Fighting Championship that is planned to take place on September 7, 2019 at The Arena, Yas Island in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.[1][2] UFC 242 forms part of Abu Dhabi Showdown Week.[3]

                                The event will mark the promotion's third visit to Abu Dhabi, and first since UFC Fight Night: Nogueira vs. Nelson in April of 2014.[4]

                                A UFC Lightweight Championship title unification bout between current champion Khabib Nurmagomedov and interim champion Dustin Poirier has been slated to serve as the event's headliner.[5]

                                A lightweight bout between Magomed Mustafaev and Don Madge was scheduled for the event. However, on August 18, 2019, it was reported that Mustafaev was removed from the bout for undisclosed reason.[6] Madge is expected to face promotional newcomer Fares Ziam.[7]

                                Adam Yandiev was scheduled to face promotional newcomer Puna Soriano at the event. However, Yandiev pulled out of the bout in mid-August citing a knee injury. Promotion officials have not confirmed whether Soriano would remain on the card against a replacement, or rescheduled for another event.[8]

                                A bantamweight bout between Khalid Taha and Bruno Gustavo Aparecido Da Silva was scheduled for the event.[9] However on August 21, 2019 it was reported that the bout was moved to UFC 243.[10]

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_242

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                                • U2.5
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                                  #51
                                  I feel like khabib vs dustin is similar to GSP vs diaz. grappler vs volume puncher. dustin does have a decent ground game so maybe he can catch khabib in a submission. I think that's his only road to victory unless he catches him with a shot on the temple. I definitely think dustin by decision is dead money. Khabib obviously is going to score some points if he wins, and probably wins the decision or by submission. I just have to check the odds to see what the bookies post up on the props.
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    • 04-14-16
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Baraldsson
                                    Always strikes me as a decent guy when you overhear what he says to his opponents in the octagon at the end of a fight. Also really liked a clip I saw of him trying to console Max Holloway's son, telling him 'Your Dad is still a champ" and stuff like that.

                                    Where'd you meet him, Hugo?
                                    I met him on the Alvarez vs. Dos Anjos card in Vegas back in 2016. Very personable guy who genuinely loves fighting.
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by U2.5
                                      I feel like khabib vs dustin is similar to GSP vs diaz. grappler vs volume puncher. dustin does have a decent ground game so maybe he can catch khabib in a submission. I think that's his only road to victory unless he catches him with a shot on the temple. I definitely think dustin by decision is dead money. Khabib obviously is going to score some points if he wins, and probably wins the decision or by submission. I just have to check the odds to see what the bookies post up on the props.
                                      Dustin has significantly heavier hands than Diaz but I agree that Khabib Decision/Sub is the most likely outcome.
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                                      • U2.5
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                        Dustin has significantly heavier hands than Diaz but I agree that Khabib Decision/Sub is the most likely outcome.
                                        yeah I think he has heavier hands too, but I think this fight will look a lot like that one did. I guess I sort of see dustin and diaz as game fighters with no quit in them, and I see GSP and khabib as two phenomenal wrestlers who have their way with these types of fighters. diaz probably better on ground, dustin has heavier hands, but they both have a lot of heart to fight.
                                        Last edited by U2.5; 09-03-19, 07:05 PM.
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          • 04-14-16
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by U2.5
                                          yeah I think he has heavier hands too, but I think this fight will look a lot like that one did. I guess I sort of see dustin and diaz as game fighters with no quit in them, and I see GSP and khabib as two phenomenal wrestlers who have their way with these types of fighters. diaz probably better on ground, dustin has heavier hands, but they both have a lot of heart to fight.
                                          Yeah I think it's a good analogy for the style archetype of this fight.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            #56
                                            Pretty surprised that Will/Won't Go Distance props aren't out yet. It's Tuesday and this is a big PPV!
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                                            • U2.5
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                              Pretty surprised that Will/Won't Go Distance props aren't out yet. It's Tuesday and this is a big PPV!
                                              i know I keep refreshing but all I see is the main. I don't want to take those odds on distance because I only think one fighter can win that way, and the odds have to be way better for that
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #58
                                                This is a solid card I'm liking it!!

                                                Looks liked the odds are pretty much spot on in the main card unfortunately.. Favorites should land in every fight I'm looking at. I'm not seeing many upsets on this card.. Parlay time!!!
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                                                • magpie878
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                                                  #59
                                                  DraftKings shows going the distance:

                                                  Yes +115

                                                  No -152
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                                                  • Thrilla
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                                                    #60
                                                    I wonder how the Khabib with father in corner factor will affect Khabib.

                                                    Interesting
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                                                    • UncleChael
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Baraldsson
                                                      I'm fully expecting this to be the first time we've ever seen Khabib bleed in the octagon - certainly don't remember ever seeing it before.

                                                      Problem is, Dustin hasn't really shown one punch KO power and I can't see him landing often enough to TKO Khabib with accumulated damage like he did to Gaethje, Alvarez etc.

                                                      Khabib will take him down and wear out his arms early on like he did with Conor so he knows there's little chance of being KOd even if Dustin does connect cleanly a couple of times.

                                                      Feeling a little conflicted about this fight because although I'd really love to see Dustin win, part of me feels our only realistic chance of ever seeing Khabib vs Tony is if they book it as Khabib's next fight, and that just won't happen if he loses to Dustin.

                                                      Khabib to win this one comfortably enough and hopefully face Tony next.
                                                      I think Tony smashes Khabib. And I think Poirier has enough tools to get it done. I will be on Poirier here. Main Event Chael
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                                                      • Thrilla
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                                                        #62
                                                        Chael Sonnen and Mike Soccio break down UFC 242, Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Dustin Poirier.

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                                                        • UncleChael
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                                                          #63
                                                          The big bad Khabib has 5 finishes at 155 since Jan 2012!
                                                          While Poirier has 6 finishes at 155 since 2015..
                                                          "If he dies, he dies" - Khabib Nurmagomedov
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                                                          • bjpenn85
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                            The big bad Khabib has 4 finishes at 155 since Jan 2012!! Lol!!
                                                            While Poirier has 5 finishes at 155 since 2015..
                                                            "If he dies, he dies" - Khabib Nurmagomedov
                                                            Im afraid of the advantage of having a more or less a muslim card. Its like UFC china, suddenly chinese fighters win. It was the same thing in Ireland, suddenly the irish people cheered so much fakking Holohan got a finish in round 1, more or less solely based on public enthusiasm. I would be careful going against any fighter who has the home crowd on his side if the aura is electric in nature. Its a very powerful thing that will make fighters work harder, get better stamina, more focused/serious training camp, smarter strategy, makes fighters come back from a loosing position when they are not supposed to etc etc. The advantages are many. This seems like a card more or less all muslim fighters may end up winning. Think about it, people spitting at poirier when he gets in, he gets mauled, people are cheering loudly for everything khabib does, throwing rotten tomates for everything DP does, off course in the 4th round, youre tired and beat up, think how much easier it is to just let that choke sink in compared to a crowd that screams name and chant your name. Just first couple of fights into the card we will see how big this effect is....if youre livebetting and have money on the none muslim, get ready to fakkin 86 that non muslim bet because i think Allah will fakk every non muslim over on this card.
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                                                            • magpie878
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                              The big bad Khabib has 5 finishes at 155 since Jan 2012!
                                                              While Poirier has 6 finishes at 155 since 2015..
                                                              "If he dies, he dies" - Khabib Nurmagomedov
                                                              Any reason for that post other than to make you feel better about taking Poirier?

                                                              Other than that, what was the point? Khabib isn't good because he doesn't finish people as often?

                                                              Covington stink too?
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                                                              • Thrilla
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                                                                #66
                                                                Retard bjkunt85 dropping his generalising knowledge about muslims he learned from Norwegian state TV after the Anders Breivik mass murder shootings. Fukking idiot. Just shut the fukk up.
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                                                                • bjpenn85
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Thrilla
                                                                  Retard bjkunt85 dropping his generalising knowledge about muslims he learned from Norwegian state TV after the Anders Breivik mass murder shootings. Fukking idiot. Just shut the fukk up.
                                                                  My point was that the crowd may play a role. But dont address me, people here hate this back and forth thing, and i dont see any reason to fight. I dont like you, you dont like me, ok. Lets talk betting, thats it. Im a bettor first and foremost.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Dustin will get grapple focked and probably sub'd out.. Will be an easier fight then most people think with Khabib's pressure, wrestling and ground game..
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                                                                    • Thrilla
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                      My point was that the crowd may play a role. But dont address me, people here hate this back and forth thing, and i dont see any reason to fight. I dont like you, you dont like me, ok. Lets talk betting, thats it. Im a bettor first and foremost.
                                                                      In other words you are a bitchass prostitute who would sell his own mother for profit. You have no honor. And anyone that knows how this all started and still talks fights with you is a bitch too.

                                                                      LOL biggest bullshitter here with his lame ass bet365 limit is trying to pull the community on his side. People don't like the back and forth you say? Is that so? How about I fukking murder rape you and I tell the authorities it's better to stay at home; don't bother trying to put me in jail cuz it's back and forth nonsense which isn't profitable for anyone. Unreal this bitch. Just another comment from you that tells us what kind of selfish prostitute you are.

                                                                      Oh you don't like me you say?. Cokksukker what's your reason to not like my? Is it because I continue to expose you for being a bullshitting selfish kunt? Is our dislike on the same level? Unlike you I have reason to dislike you. You still believe you own this place? Word of advice: Next time when you insult someone that posts unlike you in favor of the community try to fukking apologise. How stupid and selfish are you to not even consider an apology? See that down syndrom comment you pulled on me which literally said "this is my fukking forum and I make the rules" that only works without any real consequences on the internet. In real life a bitchass selfish nerd pussy like you would never say that to a man's face without getting your face groundnpounded to a pulp.
                                                                      Last edited by Thrilla; 09-04-19, 03:36 PM.
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                                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        Dustin will get grapple focked and probably sub'd out.. Will be an easier fight then most people think with Khabib's pressure, wrestling and ground game..
                                                                        With a 65% tdd, i think its pretty likely that he wont stand a chance actually. Often when i cap fights and i need a fighter to withstand td and and i see 75% and up evaluate the number as healthy, obviously the competition must be good enough to get the stamp healthy, if the fighters hasnt fought any wrestlers i will throw the 75% number in the trash.

                                                                        but to my point...with 65% although the number may be incorrect as Poirer has many fights under his belt, lets go by the number 65%, that may indicate he will struggle badly against Khabib, who certainly is a lot better than the people who have already been able to take Poirier down. But....can Poirier a very very very good fighter...on 12-10 weeks notice, with a camp more or less only focusing on wrestling, with access to top level talent in wrestling be able to make a significant difference? I dont think so, but i hope so. Public gives DP no chance, which is quite hilarious i think.
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