[sideloaded]

Chavez jr is so overated

[Sato]

Julio will eat that sweet humble pie.

[Crassus]

JCC been reported as fat and out of shape even late into the training camp.

[sideloaded]

JCC been reported as fat and out of shape even late into the training camp.

damn really? I heard he drinks a lot too.

[Crassus]

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/08/...n/#more-127713

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/vide...584415&cc=3888

[The HOFF]

The video from ESPN Deportes doesn't seem that legit. If he was really that out of shape and couldn't do more than 3 push ups in a row, there's no way his team would let that be video taped or get out. Maybe some head games going on here.

[BallaHolic777]

Im picking Martinez and so is everybody else whos opinion I give a damn about. Chavez takes way too many punches. Martinez is gonna set him up and crack him with counters all night, I wouldnt be surprised at all if he stops Chavez even though he'll probably out weigh him by 20 pounds fight night ha

[JoshB]

Gotta go with the Martinez the more skilled fighter, I think he'll turn Chavez like a 2 dollar whore all night long and outbox him to a decision or late ko. Chavez is an arum fighter though so a robbery is always on the table. Might straddle with Chavez by decision.

[Crassus]

It depends in my opinion on the Martinez that shows up. KO hunting Martinez will lose. Boxing Martinez will win.

Really not sure what to make of the video overall.

[DeFactoCrippler]

The video from ESPN Deportes doesn't seem that legit. If he was really that out of shape and couldn't do more than 3 push ups in a row, there's no way his team would let that be video taped or get out. Maybe some head games going on here.

[trytrytry]

chaves Decision in this one.

[PunisherIND]

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Sergio Gabriel Martinez - 12 rounds - boxing propositions
Sat 9/15		103 Chavez Jr/Martinez goes distance		-190
9:30PM		104 Fight won't go distance		+150
Sat 9/15		105 Chavez Jr wins inside distance		+495
9:30PM		106 Not Chavez Jr inside distance		-885
Sat 9/15		107 Chavez Jr wins by 12 rnd decision		+319
9:30PM		108 Not Chavez Jr by 12 rnd decision		-455
Sat 9/15		109 Martinez wins inside distance		+255
9:30PM		110 Not Martinez inside distance		-365
Sat 9/15		111 Martinez wins by 12 rnd decision		+133
9:30PM		112 Not Martinez by 12 rnd decision		-173

[illmatick]

[sideloaded]

chavez has no idea how to fight a guy like sergio

[hougigo]

Im so interested to see who is picking jcc jr

[thekidfanky]

i was gonna lay $100 on chavez... just because the way boxing is right now!
but now that i have opened my eyes....i realize martinez is gonna kill this kid
chavez is gonna be chavez and get hit...he thinks he has a chin but he has
never fought any1 with sergios power...chavez jr's gameplan will simply be
what he always does..try to get in front and fight toe to toe..bad idea!!!

[thekidfanky]

1. 8/29/2012 7:00 PM NFL Football 101 New England Patriots* +7 -425 vs New York Giants
2. 8/30/2012 7:00 PM College Football 134 Vanderbilt* +7 -125 vs South Carolina
3. 8/30/2012 7:30 PM College Football 143 UCLA* -14 -160 vs Rice
4. 9/1/2012 9:00 AM College Football 157 Notre Dame* -14 -140 vs Navy
5. 9/8/2012 11:00 PM Boxing Fighting 101 Chad Dawson* +245 vs Andre Ward
6. 9/15/2012 9:30 PM Boxing Fighting 102 Sergio Gabriel Martinez* -200 vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

Risking $60.00 To Win $1,863.27

for anybody that cares ^^^^^ lol GOODLUCK

[hougigo]

i was gonna lay $100 on chavez... just because the way boxing is right now!
but now that i have opened my eyes....i realize martinez is gonna kill this kid
chavez is gonna be chavez and get hit...he thinks he has a chin but he has
never fought any1 with sergios power...chavez jr's gameplan will simply be
what he always does..try to get in front and fight toe to toe..bad idea!!!

Even though I'm putting down on Martinez... there's a good chance Chavez Jr. can win too. Dude is a straight pressure puncher, Sergio fights with his hands down and if he's trapped against the ropes, who knows what will happen against the bigger man. If JCC Jr. can just eat punches until Sergio gets tired, he can take this.

[thekidfanky]

yea, but i dont see martinez getting tired at all...dudes a beast at conditioning (remember he use to play soccer and was a bicyclist) chavez jr will eat punches no matter what...did u see his face after the zbik fight>>? so if sergio hits harder then zbik ...chavez jr's face will be rearranged that night!

[hougigo]

yea, but i dont see martinez getting tired at all...dudes a beast at conditioning (remember he use to play soccer and was a bicyclist) chavez jr will eat punches no matter what...did u see his face after the zbik fight>>? so if sergio hits harder then zbik ...chavez jr's face will be rearranged that night!

Yea, but he hasn't fought a straight pressure fighter in a while... and Chavez Jr., although I don't like him, is going to pressure the crap out of him. He'll be bigger and stronger.
Martinez, he starts fast, rests in the middle and then finishes strong. He'll get his shots on Chavez as he's open more than a high school slut's legs.... but if Chavez just keeps coming even after all those hits, Martinez might be in trouble.
I'm still siding with martinez by stoppage though

[bird]

My money is on Martinez by KO. I doubt he'll win a decision and either way I do not think he wants to leave it at the judge's hands after his fight against Cintron. Chavez Jr has not been tested properly and I think he will find himself in deep trouble against Martinez, there were some reports that he was skipping practice a couple of weeks ago (don't really know if it's true) and no matter how good his chin is eventually he will go down. Martinez has impressive wins against beasts like Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams and even though one of his losses came against a pressure fighter like Margarito we got to remember that was a long time ago (it's like bringing up that Pacman has been knocked out twice, he has changed a lot since then).

Yea, but he hasn't fought a straight pressure fighter in a while... and Chavez Jr., although I don't like him, is going to pressure the crap out of him. He'll be bigger and stronger.
Martinez, he starts fast, rests in the middle and then finishes strong. He'll get his shots on Chavez as he's open more than a high school slut's legs.... but if Chavez just keeps coming even after all those hits, Martinez might be in trouble.
I'm still siding with martinez by stoppage though

Good point and I can actually see this happening, but I think Martinez hits harder than anyone Chavez has faced previously and Martinez has pretty good stamina. And we all know a good chin can get worn out eventually. This is a bad example but look at Chisora, great chin against Vitali but eventually Haye got him and then he was out.

[sideloaded]

[Imsmarterthanu]

The only way I see Chavez Jr. winning is if they pull a pacquiao vs bradley and hand him a decision victory when he clearly loses the fight

[JamesKim]

Martinez by stoppage is +307. Worth taking?

[sideloaded]

yeah I took it

[JamesKim]

yeah I took it

I'm hoping for Martinez by KO or Dawson by Dec. If one of those happens I'll be happy this month.

[NOBANK]

Anyone ever take into play, that Chaves Jr or his dad are connected to Mexican drug lords. A little money to the judges can make it so if it goes all the way Chaves Jr will get the decision? The only way I see Chaves Jr losing is if he gets knocked out in the 8th?

[AdamB]

1. 8/29/2012 7:00 PM NFL Football 101 New England Patriots* +7 -425 vs New York Giants
2. 8/30/2012 7:00 PM College Football 134 Vanderbilt* +7 -125 vs South Carolina
3. 8/30/2012 7:30 PM College Football 143 UCLA* -14 -160 vs Rice
4. 9/1/2012 9:00 AM College Football 157 Notre Dame* -14 -140 vs Navy
5. 9/8/2012 11:00 PM Boxing Fighting 101 Chad Dawson* +245 vs Andre Ward
6. 9/15/2012 9:30 PM Boxing Fighting 102 Sergio Gabriel Martinez* -200 vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

Risking $60.00 To Win $1,863.27

for anybody that cares ^^^^^ lol GOODLUCK

It's a shame man, because I am pretty sure Ward is gonna ruin that otherwise really nice parlay. I assume you're gonna hedge with Ward by Decision and a sprinkle on JCC (though it seems like you could leave the latter)?

[Mercersux]

Yeah that dawson one is going to be a hell of a tough one to pull off. Hedge and at least collect something. Fingers crossed for you buddy.

[thekidfanky]

damn...its tough! i think about it everyday and i still believe Dawson comes out victorious..but like u said at least collect something
i believe Sergio is automatic win... he wont let it go to the judges hands
but dawson aaaaahhhhhh! wish i would of had two separate parlays with dawson and one with ward haha
**** it!
no hedging...LET IT RIDE OUT
going with my gut...it was a fun $60 to look at haha
pray for me peeps haha

[JamesKim]

damn...its tough! i think about it everyday and i still believe Dawson comes out victorious..but like u said at least collect something
i believe Sergio is automatic win... he wont let it go to the judges hands
but dawson aaaaahhhhhh! wish i would of had two separate parlays with dawson and one with ward haha
**** it!
no hedging...LET IT RIDE OUT
going with my gut...it was a fun $60 to look at haha
pray for me peeps haha

Dawson is a slick mofo man, he can win this.

edit: Holy f--- though, that's some serious amount of money on the line there. I'd hedge that if I were you.

[Caranono]

Even though I'm putting down on Martinez... there's a good chance Chavez Jr. can win too. Dude is a straight pressure puncher, Sergio fights with his hands down and if he's trapped against the ropes, who knows what will happen against the bigger man. If JCC Jr. can just eat punches until Sergio gets tired, he can take this.

yeah I think Martinez can make this one. Make sure that Chavez can do his thing before giving Martinez the chance.

[Mercersux]

damn...its tough! i think about it everyday and i still believe Dawson comes out victorious..but like u said at least collect something
i believe Sergio is automatic win... he wont let it go to the judges hands
but dawson aaaaahhhhhh! wish i would of had two separate parlays with dawson and one with ward haha
**** it!
no hedging...LET IT RIDE OUT
going with my gut...it was a fun $60 to look at haha
pray for me peeps haha

Yeah Martinez takes Chavez out so i wouldn't sweat that one. The Dawson v. Ward fight will be the nail bitter. Take solace in the fact that you have a top 5 p4p going for you. Unfortunately he's fighting another top 5 p4p. If Dawson can't pull it off though, not sure who could knock off Ward....

[Vaughany]

Have a similar situation with this parlay:

8/3/12 7:16am	$100.00	$1,680.15	Pending	8 Team Parlay
				Win	8/3/12 9:30am Women Intl Soccer 108 USA (W-Olympic) -1 -502* vs New Zealand (W-Olympic)
				Pending	9/8/12 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 102 Andre Ward -300* vs Chad Dawson
				Win	8/4/12 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Mike Swick -220* vs DaMarques Johnson
				Win	8/4/12 5:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Rani Yahya +140* vs Josh Grispi
				Pending	9/22/12 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Joseph Benavidez -280* vs Demetrious Johnson
				Win	8/4/12 8:30pm Props Fighting 1057 Vera/Rua starts round 2 -240* vs Fight won't start round 2
				Win	8/4/12 8:00pm Props Fighting 1137 Bader/Machida starts round 2 -505* vs Fight won't start round 2
				Win	8/4/12 4:30pm Props Fighting 1803 Omigawa/Gamburyan goes 3 round distance -260*vs Fight won't go 3 round distance

And got this one as cover in case Dawson does win the decision...

126746779-1	6/30/12 4:32pm	$200.00	$115.15	Pending	2 Team Parlay
				Pending	9/8/12 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 101 Chad Dawson/Andre Ward Over 9½ -550*
				Win	8/4/12 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Mauricio Rua -300* vs Brandon Vera

[JamesKim]

Holy sh-t. Damn. Sick money there. Joe will probably beat MM so your only real worry should be Ward vs Dawson. You're gonna chew off all your nails while they announce that decision.